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Past Romances and its consequence in DA:I


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David7204 wrote...

If it happened in KOTOR, it was a mistake not to be repeated.


It was actually considered one of the best parts of the game if I remember right. Which I do, mainly because I'm looking at all the praise Revan and Bastila got.

At best David, your ideas are opinions. Nothing more. Subjective and not absolute.

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David7204 wrote...

If it happened in KOTOR, it was a mistake not to be repeated.


So you're implying they didn't know what they're doing, yet that game is usually praised as being one of their best titles ever released.  The romance flowed well because of the story and vise versa.  Experience it before you judge because you have nothing to help back up your claim at this moment.  

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spirosz wrote...

David7204 wrote...

If it happened in KOTOR, it was a mistake not to be repeated.


So you're implying they didn't know what they're doing, yet that game is usually praised as being one of their best titles ever released.  The romance flowed well because of the story and vise versa.  Experience it before you judge because you have nothing to help back up your claim at this moment.  


Exactly. The romance in the game plays a very strong path and is regarded in Star Wars canon as one of the great things that kept Revan from returning to the Dark Side, and what allowed him to bring Bastila back from the dark.

It's one reason why Revan's tale was so poignant. It was pure Star Wars at its finest.

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But... don't do that again Bioware!

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I thought the romance with Morrigan was alright when it came to the Dark Ritual and the OGB.

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SgtSteel91 wrote...

I thought the romance with Morrigan was alright when it came to the Dark Ritual and the OGB.


I agree with that too

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spirosz wrote...

But... don't do that again Bioware!


I don't like things that aren't purely pure heroes! Therefore, it's objectively bad, and a game cannot be possibly be good if it has those things in it!

Everybody else thinks the same as me! They're foolish and childish if they don't!

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SgtSteel91 wrote...

I thought the romance with Morrigan was alright when it came to the Dark Ritual and the OGB.


That's something I like about DA:O

Minus Zevran, all the romances have some kind of impact on the story.

Morrigan and Alistair both have the higher levels, and Leliana has a lesser, but still conscious romance for the game.

You can marry Alistair, or become his mistress, and become Queen of Fereldan. You can romance Morrigan and have the child and the DR come up later. 

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MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

SgtSteel91 wrote...

I thought the romance with Morrigan was alright when it came to the Dark Ritual and the OGB.


That's something I like about DA:O

Minus Zevran, all the romances have some kind of impact on the story.

Morrigan and Alistair both have the higher levels, and Leliana has a lesser, but still conscious romance for the game.

You can marry Alistair, or become his mistress, and become Queen of Fereldan. You can romance Morrigan and have the child and the DR come up later. 

Agreed. The romances all had their relevance to the plot but Zevran. It made my wonder if Zevran could be a romance, why not Wynne?

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KC_Prototype wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

SgtSteel91 wrote...

I thought the romance with Morrigan was alright when it came to the Dark Ritual and the OGB.


That's something I like about DA:O

Minus Zevran, all the romances have some kind of impact on the story.

Morrigan and Alistair both have the higher levels, and Leliana has a lesser, but still conscious romance for the game.

You can marry Alistair, or become his mistress, and become Queen of Fereldan. You can romance Morrigan and have the child and the DR come up later. 

Agreed. The romances all had their relevance to the plot but Zevran. It made my wonder if Zevran could be a romance, why not Wynne?


Because Wynne is old and like mother-figure to the PC if you let her

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VanguardMaster19 wrote...

What I'm trying to say in short is how do you guys speculate (or hope ) the narrative will handle the past romances and how will it effect the characters that might get a cameo?

Please discuss :)


I suppose I'd like past romances to be mentioned, even if only in passing. For some characters I could see it actually being somewhat important (Morrigan), and for others it might make sense depending on the romance and circumstances of the plot (Anders, Sebastian, Alistair, Leliana, etc). I suppose it depends on what the writers want to do.

I admit though, I'd be especially pleased to have some NPC or quest-giver complain about the Hawke/Anders romance to my new PC. "If that clown in Kirkwall had put a sword through that abomination s/he was screwing, we might not be in this mess!"

Priceless.

Or, you know. Not. We'll see in a few months.

Modifié par SgtElias, 31 décembre 2013 - 05:16 .


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KC_Prototype wrote...

The romances all had their relevance to the plot but Zevran.

How exactly was Leliana's romance relevant to the plot?

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Unlikely the romances will be mentioned at all, other than possibly if your warden romanced them either Leliana or Morrtigan mentioning they missed the warden.

If we meet any of hawke's ex paramours I doubt they'll mention him/her at all.

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Cthulhu42 wrote...

KC_Prototype wrote...

The romances all had their relevance to the plot but Zevran.

How exactly was Leliana's romance relevant to the plot?

Simple: it didn't.

Ali's and Morri's romances were the only two to have some semblance of revelance to the main plot of Origins.

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And that's the thing, it's not to say that those romances are better or the right choice, but the have an influence on certain impact on the story, but not generally in the 'right or wrong' mindset.

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Orian Tabris wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

KC_Prototype wrote...

The romances all had their relevance to the plot but Zevran.

How exactly was Leliana's romance relevant to the plot?

Simple: it didn't.

Ali's and Morri's romances were the only two to have some semblance of revelance to the main plot of Origins.


I never fully romanced either of them but Alistair still can become king and Morrigan still can have the dark ritual
their romances just happen to work well with their stories, kinda like Liara in mass effect.

Theyre plot characters who will still be just as important to the story with or without a romance but with it I guess you care a lot more for them and got a cool romance/main story going on.

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I don't care that Zevran's romance had no influence on the story, I still love him the most.
Alistair had a great love story.
Zevran was a great love interest. His character was very in-depth and the most surprising.

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VanguardMaster19 wrote...

What I'm trying to say in short is how do you guys speculate (or hope ) the narrative will handle the past romances and how will it effect the characters that might get a cameo?

Please discuss :)



Mahariel and Zevran! - I hope we get to see Zevran as an importnt character who leads the rebelling group of Crow. I want him to have the sincere puppy dog look when thinking about the Warden and he misses her.

Anders and Marian - I see Anders being fully possessed by Justice or completely seperate from Justice. Either way, I think he would be dedicated to finding (my) Hawke since she always helped him free mages. If Anders is normal, he's heartbroken because he couldn't be with Marian. OR they might suprise us with Hawke's love interest staying by their side.

Modifié par rasloveszev, 31 décembre 2013 - 01:57 .


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rasloveszev wrote...

VanguardMaster19 wrote...

What I'm trying to say in short is how do you guys speculate (or hope ) the narrative will handle the past romances and how will it effect the characters that might get a cameo?

Please discuss :)



Mahariel and Zevran! - I hope we get to see Zevran as an importnt character who leads the rebelling group of Crow. I want him to have the sincere puppy dog look when thinking about the Warden and he misses her.

Anders and Marian - I see Anders being fully possessed by Justice or completely seperate from Justice. Either way, I think he would be dedicated to finding (my) Hawke since she always helped him free mages. If Anders is normal, he's heartbroken.


My Hawke ran off with Anders after he helped her defend the mages and I thoroughly enjoyed the romance but I truly hope I don't see him in DAI.  I prefer his and Hawke's story to remain a mystery.

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Magdalena11 wrote...

My Hawke ran off with Anders after he helped her defend the mages and I thoroughly enjoyed the romance but I truly hope I don't see him in DAI.  I prefer his and Hawke's story to remain a mystery.


I tend to agree with this. Especially since DA2 concludes by saying Hawke and his/her LI stayed together, while everyone else drifted away. So if my Hawke's LI shows up alone in DA:I it's going to bug me. Only exception would be if the LI mentions off hand that his/her lover is out shopping at the moment or something lol 

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I want to see my origins romance mentioned cause at the end I romance leliana and morraigan but didn't go through the mirror I want to see what happens

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SgtElias wrote...

I suppose I'd like past romances to be mentioned, even if only in passing. For some characters I could see it actually being somewhat important (Morrigan), and for others it might make sense depending on the romance and circumstances of the plot (Anders, Sebastian, Alistair, Leliana, etc). I suppose it depends on what the writer's want to do.

I admit though, I'd be especially pleased to have some NPC or quest-giver complain about the Hawke/Anders romance to my new PC. "If that clown in Kirkwall had put a sword through that abomination s/he was screwing, we might not be in this mess!"

Priceless.


So very seconded.  I'd like to see that trainwreck catch something else on fire in DA:I, because Anders hasn't wrecked enough pixelated lives already :lol:

Indulging my desire for Anders trainwreck aside, I don't think prior romances need any more than a mention as a nod to continuity.  People have had years now to work out in their heads what their Hawkes and Wardens might look like in the future; maybe it's best not to open up that can of worms.  The only possible exception would be Morrigan, given her major supporting role in DA:I and loose plot threads from DA:O.

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MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Exactly. The romance in the game plays a very strong path and is regarded in Star Wars canon as one of the great things that kept Revan from returning to the Dark Side, and what allowed him to bring Bastila back from the dark.

It's one reason why Revan's tale was so poignant. It was pure Star Wars at its finest.


Absolutely agree. It's also very similar to Aribeth romance in NWN.

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AresKeith wrote...

KC_Prototype wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

SgtSteel91 wrote...

I thought the romance with Morrigan was alright when it came to the Dark Ritual and the OGB.


That's something I like about DA:O

Minus Zevran, all the romances have some kind of impact on the story.

Morrigan and Alistair both have the higher levels, and Leliana has a lesser, but still conscious romance for the game.

You can marry Alistair, or become his mistress, and become Queen of Fereldan. You can romance Morrigan and have the child and the DR come up later. 

Agreed. The romances all had their relevance to the plot but Zevran. It made my wonder if Zevran could be a romance, why not Wynne?


Because Wynne is old and like mother-figure to the PC if you let her


Just the thought of Wynne and the Warden.......... why man? why  would you say that?.

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superdeathdealer14 wrote...

Just the thought of Wynne and the Warden.......... why man? why  would you say that?.


I mean, she DID have a magical bosom, right?