(But now that the thread is baaaaaaack...)
Wow! And here I thought that the original DAO game manual summed up the designer's thoughts on this subject beautifully:
"Your character's gender does not affect stats or abilities, but does alter some dialogue and plots --
as well as facial options and body shape, of course."
And that's exactly as it should be FOR A FANTASY GAME!
Get a life, people. <sheesh>
Meh if women must be weaker in combat I'd prefer they be stronger in magic. fair's fair right?
Meh if women must be weaker in combat I'd prefer they be stronger in magic. fair's fair right?
Roguery would make more sense. Physical strength and flexibility are the factors in play, not intelligence.
This is not to say that rogues are less effective - one only needs to backstab with two daggers while Momentum is active to see that.
ok but why is this back
Roguery would make more sense. Physical strength and flexibility are the factors in play, not intelligence.
This is not to say that rogues are less effective - one only needs to backstab with two daggers while Momentum is active to see that.
Meh most of the powerful mages we see in DA series are female mages. The devs could throw in some excuse as to females tend to be more powerful in magic so 
Also there's plenty of mages that...aren't that bright. So intelligence doesn't seem to be a deciding factor in DAO magic. It's the rogue that relies on intelligence in the DAO setting. (Cunning and all that).
ok but why is this back
Does it matter? It's only a few months old. If people want to reopen the discussion it's better than creating a new thread.
Also there's plenty of mages that...aren't that bright. So intelligence doesn't seem to be a deciding factor in DAO magic. It's the rogue that relies on intelligence in the DAO setting. (Cunning and all that).
Yup. It depends on their connection to the fade, not on their brightness (*cough* Jowan *cough* Grace *cough*). Willpower gives them a bigger mana pool, but the strength of their spells has nothing (or very little) to do with their character.
Does it matter? It's only a few months old. If people want to reopen the discussion it's better than creating a new thread.
It does matter, actually. Thanks though.
ok but why is this back
My bad, I clicked on it by mistake and didn't look at the date. 
Meh most of the powerful mages we see in DA series are female mages. The devs could throw in some excuse as to females tend to be more powerful in magic so
Also there's plenty of mages that...aren't that bright. So intelligence doesn't seem to be a deciding factor in DAO magic. It's the rogue that relies on intelligence in the DAO setting. (Cunning and all that).
The closest thing I can think of to something like this was Arcanum, where female PC's got -1 strength but +1 constitution. Since strength was pretty much useless to mages but constitution was useful to everyone, it was an advantage to play a female PC if you were playing a mage. Even then, that's going about as far as I'd be willing to go as far as recognizing gender difference through mechanics; I just don't see any particular need to represent such differences mechanically (i.e. by giving women reduced strength or some such), especially in a fantasy setting.
Oh neither do I. I'm just amused by how females always get the disadvantages and then a minimal advantage as thought that makes up for it.
Yo so sexist dawg... Laik women can do same things as men just as well laik dayum.
As if any of the people in the games had the strength to swing even their weapons around as much as they do. Stop being picky, enjoy the product.
Realism in genetics isn't of the highest priority for me, tbh. Consider all of the mixed species kids running around.
Realism in genetics isn't of the highest priority for me, tbh. Consider all of the mixed species kids running around.
Trying to picture a dwarf/qunari breed
We don't even know what genetics people in Thedas have. Even just a little hormonal (and else) difference can make you stronger/bigger/have more endurance than other people. It's the less far-fetched thing in a world with mages and demons. I'd edit the models though.
It does matter, actually. Thanks though.
No it doesn't and you know it. And you're welcome.
Of course women can't be as effective physically as men, this is fantasy,
Interesting, some posters seem to want to have realistic gender differences when it comes to combat, but not realism in the combat itself. It is a fantasy game. One of the primary perquisite is a fun game. Women throughout the ages have proven themselves quite capable on the battlefield. The second perquisite is suspension of belief. Otherwise how could one believe that magic could shoot from the fingertips? Or that a party of warriors would not be barbecued by a high dragon. I do not remember medieval armor being fireproof or flame retardant.
I wouldn't be offended by one or two lesser points in strength or something for "flavour", but do even the different species have stat differences?
I wouldn't be offended by one or two lesser points in strength or something for "flavour", but do even the different species have stat differences?
This idea always bothered me because it misunderstands statistics. Even if women "on average" are not as strong as men, you can't generalize from that to this woman, who is the protagonist.
The fact that "on average" a man is 5'10 tall doesn't mean 6'8 guys don't exist.
I wouldn't be offended by one or two lesser points in strength or something for "flavour", but do even the different species have stat differences?
This idea always bothered me because it misunderstands statistics. Even if women "on average" are not as strong as men, you can't generalize from that to this woman, who is the protagonist.
The fact that "on average" a man is 5'10 tall doesn't mean 6'8 guys don't exist.
Well iirc you could allocate stat points yourself right? So if you made a female character who put all her points into strength she would still be stronger than most men. The strongest female in the world being one or two points off the strongest man in the world doesn't bother me.
Unfortunately there are no height sliders
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I still think that having the same stats for all races is ridiculous, it makes multiple races a rather pointless mechanic/feature.
If that's the case they should just have gone with humans and spend those resources elsewhere.
In most games yeah. But with Bioware they might incorporate story elements into it.
Did they say there's no stat difference?
wow I praised bioware
I'm not sure there is a canonical reason. I think it's just a case of 'suspend your disbelief for the sake of a more egalitarian gaming experience'. Same with the 'playersexual' romances, really.
Although if you're asking for personal headcanon theories, I'm shying away from magic and going with pure genetics (except perhaps in the case of Aveline. She can stand her ground in the face of a friggin' dragon. No way that's natural. Merrill/Anders have got to be channeling magic 'roids her way!).
well, while I agree it's a case of "suspend your disbelief", I don;t think it's for the sake of a more egalitarian gaming experience. I think it's "suspend your disbelief for the sake of the gaming experience" in general.
I mean, guys can't do stuff that the guys in game do. Guys can't. Nobody can. If we go down this road then the game would be: Here's our hero. He gets jumped by a pack of battle hardened thugs............and gets beat down to a bloody pulp; sent to the hospital, and the police come in to get a statement. While our hero learns to use the right side of his body again after months, maybe years of physical rehab.
that's no fun.
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