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[CosmicGnosis]

I will be starting my canon playthrough of the trilogy very soon, and I have a few questions for you guys.

Let's start with romances. Liara will likely be the romance I choose for most of the trilogy. I will romance Liara in ME1, and get back with her in Lair of the Shadow Broker and ME3. However, I want to romance someone else during ME2, and I'm not sure who that should be. I'm leaning towards Miranda, but I don't want to break up with her in ME3 because that apparently kills her. Is there any way around this? If not, I'll probably romance Tali (I like humans in real life, please believe me ).

Now let's talk about the geth heretics. I'm probably going to destroy them. If you usually choose to rewrite them, please explain why so that I can consider switching my choice.

The Collector Base is a similar dilemma, but it's very complicated. The game doesn't clearly convey what the choice actually means. The game leads you to believe that keeping the base means that you want to study it, but the way the characters react suggests that keeping the base means that Cerberus is going to build their own Reaper, and that apparently makes them just as bad as the Reapers (on the Normandy, the entire crew is against keeping the base, even if they argued for it during the Suicide Mission). So I want opinions for both choices here. Should I keep the base, or destroy it?

The ME3 ending is such a bloated subject that I won't ask any questions about it in this thread...

Modifié par CosmicGnosis, 31 décembre 2013 - 05:13 .

[Steelcan]

yes you can get around the break up death with Miranda

[AlanC9]

What are you intending to do at Rannoch?

As for the base, ignire the crew's opinion, especially since they contradict themselves sometimes.  If Shepard thinks it's worth studying, keep it.

[CosmicGnosis]

Peace on Rannoch.

[CosmicGnosis]

Steelcan wrote...

yes you can get around the break up death with Miranda

How? Is it an exploit? Does she acknowledge the breakup?

[Steelcan]

CosmicGnosis wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

yes you can get around the break up death with Miranda

How? Is it an exploit? Does she acknowledge the breakup?

No she does not.

Simply put, just lock in another romance before you meet her on the Citadel for the third time.

[Steelcan]

pfft peace is boring, its so clearly meant to be the right option by the writers and I don't like how it comes about.

Better to kill Legion off in ME2 then gut the Geth VI

[CosmicGnosis]

Steelcan wrote...

CosmicGnosis wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

yes you can get around the break up death with Miranda

How? Is it an exploit? Does she acknowledge the breakup?

No she does not.

Simply put, just lock in another romance before you meet her on the Citadel for the third time.

Hmm... I can't help but suspect that this is an oversight.

[Steelcan]

CosmicGnosis wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

CosmicGnosis wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

yes you can get around the break up death with Miranda

How? Is it an exploit? Does she acknowledge the breakup?

No she does not.

Simply put, just lock in another romance before you meet her on the Citadel for the third time.

Hmm... I can't help but suspect that this is an oversight.

Careful who you tell that to, many a Miranda fan will tell you it was a deliberate slight

[BronzTrooper]

The Collector base really depends on what you think is best. The reason some squaddies argue for keeping on the SM is the same reason why you can sometimes get Tali/Garrus/Liara/Kaidan arguing for letting the Council die in ME1 and sometimes get Wrex/Ashley arguing against it: BW wanted players to hear both sides of the decision and their justifications.

The only real differences in ME3 between destroying or keeping the base is some dialogue and you get the Reaper Brain war asset instead of the Reaper Heart.

As for the justifications:

Destroying the base: the base was used to kill hundreds of thousands of humans and turn them into the Human Proto-Reaper. And since the Collectors were using Reaper tech, the chance of indoctrination is extremely high.

Keeping the base: the base is loaded with info on how to create Reapers and thus, can provide a chance to find a ****** in the Reapers' armor. Not to mention the massive amounts of Reaper tech that can be studied.

Then again, this is Cerberus we're talking about. Would you give a temporary ally a massive technological boost if you knew they would eventually turn on you? I wouldn't.

[spirosz]

You should Romance Jack in ME1 to ME3. She's there in ME1, by the way, just gotta search deeper.

[Sable Rhapsody]

Romance is really up to you. As far as the female cast goes, Liara's romance is probably the best across the series. I'd take Miranda over Tali in ME2, though; in-game death trigger aside, Miranda seems like she'd handle a more casual relationship better than Tali would. Or at the very least, she'd be better at putting her personal feelings aside.

I've gone both ways on the geth decision. Hindsight is 20/20, but I did occasionally choose to rewrite the heretics under the assumption that since they formed just a tiny fraction of the geth as a whole, the integration of their experiences under Sovereign's control would not sway the geth one way or another on the Reapers; they'd just get more firepower, which would come in handy during ME3. I was right about the firepower, at least

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Always save the base because it makes the Cerberus superfaction in 3 if only more slightly believable and also justifies the VS's paranoia somewhat.

[cap and gown]

What is a canon playthrough?

[David7204]

Steelcan wrote...

CosmicGnosis wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

CosmicGnosis wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

yes you can get around the break up death with Miranda

How? Is it an exploit? Does she acknowledge the breakup?

No she does not.

Simply put, just lock in another romance before you meet her on the Citadel for the third time.

Hmm... I can't help but suspect that this is an oversight.

Careful who you tell that to, many a Miranda fan will tell you it was a deliberate slight

It's reasons like this that are why romance affecting content outside romance is a bad idea.

[MegaIllusiveMan]

Gamer072196 wrote...

The Collector base really depends on what you think is best. The reason some squaddies argue for keeping on the SM is the same reason why you can sometimes get Tali/Garrus/Liara/Kaidan arguing for letting the Council die in ME1 and sometimes get Wrex/Ashley arguing against it: BW wanted players to hear both sides of the decision and their justifications.

The only real differences in ME3 between destroying or keeping the base is some dialogue and you get the Reaper Brain war asset instead of the Reaper Heart.

As for the justifications:

Destroying the base: the base was used to kill hundreds of thousands of humans and turn them into the Human Proto-Reaper. And since the Collectors were using Reaper tech, the chance of indoctrination is extremely high.

Keeping the base: the base is loaded with info on how to create Reapers and thus, can provide a chance to find a ****** in the Reapers' armor. Not to mention the massive amounts of Reaper tech that can be studied.

Then again, this is Cerberus we're talking about. Would you give a temporary ally a massive technological boost if you knew they would eventually turn on you? I wouldn't.

Yeah, but I bet that if ME had an epilogue, they would do talk the same way as the Suicide Mission.

[MegaIllusiveMan]

cap and gown wrote...

What is a canon playthrough?

You kidding, right?

If not, a Canon playthrough(Always tought that it was CanNon...) is a Playthrough that you consider as... hm... Canon.

Let me see... It's the same thing as KotOR (in which Drew Karpyshin said that Revan was male and romanced Bastila), then the Canon playthrough would be the same as Drew's history.

The only difference is that the players chose the canon. (That is, until the movie comes out )

[MegaIllusiveMan]

CosmicGnosis wrote...

Now let's talk about the geth heretics. I'm probably going to destroy them. If you usually choose to rewrite them, please explain why so that I can consider switching my choice.

The Collector Base is a similar dilemma, but it's very complicated. The game doesn't clearly convey what the choice actually means. The game leads you to believe that keeping the base means that you want to study it, but the way the characters react suggests that keeping the base means that Cerberus is going to build their own Reaper, and that apparently makes them just as bad as the Reapers (on the Normandy, the entire crew is against keeping the base, even if they argued for it during the Suicide Mission). So I want opinions for both choices here. Should I keep the base, or destroy it?

No  REAL difference in rewriting or destroying.

For Example, the Quarians will have more war assets and the Geth less if you destroyed the Geth Heretics and vice-versa. They'll have the same value(IIRC) with +30 or -30 War Assets

As of the Collector Base, I can't find the same thrill that I have when destroying it. The Cutscene always gets me. Ooh, that blue

[cap and gown]

MegaIllusiveMan wrote...

cap and gown wrote...

What is a canon playthrough?

You kidding, right?

A little, yes.

MegaIllusiveMan wrote...
The only difference is that the players chose the canon. (That is, until the movie comes out )

And this is why I kid. Cuz there ain't no canon.

[ruggly]

If you think keeping the base would fit best for you, then do it. I just wish it had more of an effect.

[Display Name Owner]

I'd say keep the base. I said it in another thread, but it's the only way the Cerberus arc in ME3 makes any sense. It's a bit of a blatant handwave when you destroy the base and get told that Cerberus somehow accomplished the same stuff by studying what tiny scraps of it remained somehow. Honestly you're better off just ignoring the squaddies' opinions on the matter as well. Legion and Mordin make sound arguments for why you should keep it, then turn around and say you shouldn't have kept it, and everyone else's arguments for destroying it are pretty illogical.

Personally I think then best way to go when deciding how a playthrough will go is to just establish what kind of Shepard you're going for. If they're Paragon, Renegade, a mix of the two, what their ideals and opinions on certain matters are, blah blah, and then just go with whatever choices suit the character. That was my favourite way of doing it, every other Shepard just felt like an extra to see how certain choices play out.

[Michotic]

Most of those decisions would be based on what type of person Shepard is. What is he like?

[xSTONEYx187x]

StreetMagic wrote...

spirosz wrote...

You should Romance Jack in ME1 to ME3. She's there in ME1, by the way, just gotta search deeper.

You and I think alike.


Jack has no true rival for maleShep, except EDI and Joker.

Do you mean the random "I will destroy you" from biotics? Or is there some sort of Jack easter egg?