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[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

I don't get one thing with Anders...

Well anders took justice voluntarily as well connor and that was reason why we could heal him only thing you needed is kill demon in fade so why we we couldn't do that with anders? 

The same reason you can't turn a train at will.

[The Hierophant]

Dobbysaurus wrote...

Playing with Ser Pounce-a-lot

This sounds awful. The guy suffers from violent mood swings and is a cannibal.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

I don't get one thing with Anders...

Well anders took justice voluntarily as well connor and that was reason why we could heal him only thing you needed is kill demon in fade so why we we couldn't do that with anders? 

Anders has said that by that point, he and Justice had merged into one persona. Connor and the Desire Demon didn't. Even Faith with Wynne and now Evangeline didn't go that far. So with Anders/Justice, you can't kill one without killing the other. 

[rasloveszev]

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

I don't get one thing with Anders...

Well anders took justice voluntarily as well connor and that was reason why we could heal him only thing you needed is kill demon in fade so why we we couldn't do that with anders? 

But Justice isn't in the Fade. He's literally inside Anders. 

[daveliam]

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

I don't get one thing with Anders...

Well anders took justice voluntarily as well connor and that was reason why we could heal him only thing you needed is kill demon in fade so why we we couldn't do that with anders? 

I think it's because Anders wasn't possessed by a demon.  He was possessed by a spirit and those are different from demons.  I'm not sure if you can kill a spirit the same way.  Anyone know from the comics or books if this type of spirit can be killed (the type like Justice and the one that possessed Wynne)?

[Cainhurst Crow]

Rotward wrote...

Darth Brotarian wrote...

I hope justice forces him to kill himself for all the innocent people who died from his actions.

Lol, no. Justice was why Anders blew up the chantry. An innocent bystander cannot exist; the act of standing by is enabling, and makes you as guilty as the perpetrator. 

Oh goody, I love the chaotic stupid approach to things. XD Next, we shall kill all those who can read, because those who read can find loop holes in what is written, and that just will not do to have fair and equal law.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

daveliam wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

I don't get one thing with Anders...

Well anders took justice voluntarily as well connor and that was reason why we could heal him only thing you needed is kill demon in fade so why we we couldn't do that with anders? 

I think it's because Anders wasn't possessed by a demon.  He was possessed by a spirit and those are different from demons.  I'm not sure if you can kill a spirit the same way.  Anyone know from the comics or books if this type of spirit can be killed (the type like Justice and the one that possessed Wynne)?

Spirits can be killed the same way as demons. The only difference between the two is that spirits tend to embody positive traits, like Faith and Justice, while demons tend to embody negative traits, like Sloth or Pride.

Modifié par LDS Darth Revan, 01 janvier 2014 - 12:45 .

[Danny Boy 7]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

I don't get one thing with Anders...

Well anders took justice voluntarily as well connor and that was reason why we could heal him only thing you needed is kill demon in fade so why we we couldn't do that with anders? 

Anders has said that by that point, he and Justice had merged into one persona. Connor and the Desire Demon didn't. Even Faith with Wynne and now Evangeline didn't go that far. So with Anders/Justice, you can't kill one without killing the other. 

Not necessarily true, as I believe the devs said that Anders can be dead by the end of DA2, but Justice is another story

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

I don't get one thing with Anders...

Well anders took justice voluntarily as well connor and that was reason why we could heal him only thing you needed is kill demon in fade so why we we couldn't do that with anders? 

Anders has said that by that point, he and Justice had merged into one persona. Connor and the Desire Demon didn't. Even Faith with Wynne and now Evangeline didn't go that far. So with Anders/Justice, you can't kill one without killing the other. 

Not necessarily true, as I believe the devs said that Anders can be dead by the end of DA2, but Justice is another story

I hadn't heard that. Not saying I don't believe you, just that it is news to me. 

[Statare]

Rotward wrote...

Darth Brotarian wrote...

I hope justice forces him to kill himself for all the innocent people who died from his actions.

Lol, no. Justice was why Anders blew up the chantry. An innocent bystander cannot exist; the act of standing by is enabling, and makes you as guilty as the perpetrator. 

Yes! Spirits are mannifestations of a singular, lofty ideal. Justice deals in absolutes (guilty or innocent) and does not consider compassion, because that is another type of spirit's thing.

To answer the OP's question as to what Anders is doing... my Hawke 

But seriously, I hope he's still around. I'd like to see how he's changed over the years. If he's still around, he is anti-demon and I can't see him sitting around while they pour in to Thedas.

[daveliam]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Spirits can be killed the same way as demons. The only difference between the two is that spirits tend to embody positive traits, like Faith and Justice, while demons tend to embody negative traits, like Sloth or Pride.

Wow, I learned something today.  So then Justice isn't THE spirit of justice.  He's A spirit of justice.  Like a random desire demon is A demon.  I always thought that he was the one and only spirit of justice.

[Magdalena11]

In my headcanon, Anders and Hawke are enjoying a life on the run, with the word enjoying employed in the loosest possible sense. They'll help mages if they're able and risk themselves to do it but neither one of them made any friends in Kirkwall and their POV will be welcome nowhere. Tevinter might sympathize with their persecution as mages but Anders and Hawke won't sympathize with blood magic or slave ownership. They might try Ferelden for a while with Alistair's relaxed stance on apostates but they don't dare stay in any place too long in case word gets out. While Rivain might have once been an option, after their circle was destroyed there are way too many templars around rooting out stray mages. Both of them are probably going to end up buying the farm somewhere or another but until then they'll work to make life better for those that come after.

Modifié par Magdalena11, 01 janvier 2014 - 12:55 .

[themikefest]

in all my playthroughs I killed the peice of garbage.

If he's allowed to live, he might be hiding with escaped mages that he helped before blowing up the chantry.

[Danny Boy 7]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

I don't get one thing with Anders...

Well anders took justice voluntarily as well connor and that was reason why we could heal him only thing you needed is kill demon in fade so why we we couldn't do that with anders? 

Anders has said that by that point, he and Justice had merged into one persona. Connor and the Desire Demon didn't. Even Faith with Wynne and now Evangeline didn't go that far. So with Anders/Justice, you can't kill one without killing the other. 

Not necessarily true, as I believe the devs said that Anders can be dead by the end of DA2, but Justice is another story

I hadn't heard that. Not saying I don't believe you, just that it is news to me. 

http://social.biowar...x/10947666&lf=8

It's a random obscure mention that may have changed by now, but it's interesting.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

daveliam wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Spirits can be killed the same way as demons. The only difference between the two is that spirits tend to embody positive traits, like Faith and Justice, while demons tend to embody negative traits, like Sloth or Pride.

Wow, I learned something today.  So then Justice isn't THE spirit of justice.  He's A spirit of justice.  Like a random desire demon is A demon.  I always thought that he was the one and only spirit of justice.

Exactly. Justice merely adopted the trait he was based on to be his reason for existance, thus he became one with that trait. Just like how the demon in Origins who identifies itself as Sloth is only A demon of Sloth, not THE demon of Sloth.

Modifié par LDS Darth Revan, 01 janvier 2014 - 01:00 .

[rasloveszev]

Magdalena11 wrote...

In my headcanon, Anders and Hawke are enjoying a life on the run, with the word enjoying employed in the loosest possible sense. They'll help mages if they're able and risk themselves to do it but neither one of them made any friends in Kirkwall and their POV will be welcome nowhere. Tevinter might sympathize with their persecution as mages but Anders and Hawke won't sympathize with blood magic or slave ownership. They might try Ferelden for a while with Alistair's relaxed stance on apostates but they don't dare stay in any place too long in case word gets out. While Rivain might have once been an option, after their circle was destroyed there are way too many templars around rooting out stray mages. Both of them are probably going to end up buying the farm somewhere or another but until then they'll work to make life better for those that come after.

That sounds nice. :happy:

While Rivain might have once been an option, after their circle was destroyed there are way too many templars around rooting out stray mages. 

Rivain? As in Isabela's and Duncan's homeplace? When did that happen? In Asunder?

[Danny Boy 7]

daveliam wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Spirits can be killed the same way as demons. The only difference between the two is that spirits tend to embody positive traits, like Faith and Justice, while demons tend to embody negative traits, like Sloth or Pride.

Wow, I learned something today.  So then Justice isn't THE spirit of justice.  He's A spirit of justice.  Like a random desire demon is A demon.  I always thought that he was the one and only spirit of justice.

Yeah, I've always wondered why we've only ever come across one or two spirits at a time, especially in the Fade where they should be at least somewhat numerous.

If they like to stay away from humans/mortals than why didn't Justice and if it's because of his ideal then why didn't Spirits of Valor or Hope show up? I'm obviously overthinking, but I hope that we see more interaction with Fade denizens as something other than mindless enemies, vague mini bosses or a third possessed companion. Mind that I like those three options, but seeing both types interact with mortals like Justice, Faith and Valor did interests me.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

daveliam wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Spirits can be killed the same way as demons. The only difference between the two is that spirits tend to embody positive traits, like Faith and Justice, while demons tend to embody negative traits, like Sloth or Pride.

Wow, I learned something today.  So then Justice isn't THE spirit of justice.  He's A spirit of justice.  Like a random desire demon is A demon.  I always thought that he was the one and only spirit of justice.

Yeah, I've always wondered why we've only ever come across one or two spirits at a time, especially in the Fade where they should be at least somewhat numerous.

If they like to stay away from humans/mortals than why didn't Justice and if it's because of his ideal then why didn't Spirits of Valor or Hope show up? I'm obviously overthinking, but I hope that we see more interaction with Fade denizens as something other than mindless enemies, vague mini bosses or a third possessed companion. Mind that I like those three options, but seeing both types interact with mortals like Justice, Faith and Valor did interests me.

That would be very interesting. Like the positive spirits will defend the mortals from demons and stuff like that. I can just see an army of Justices and Valors marching towards a demon horde.

[Giggles_Manically]

Looking for more feathers to go EXTRA moody mage rebel I bet.

[Incantrix]

My Anders is running around with my Hawke. My Hawke is a bit...perturbed by his actions but as a mage he knows it needed to happen.

[Texhnolyze101]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

I hope justice forces him to kill himself for all the innocent people who died from his actions.

Those people were irrelevant.

[Ziegrif]

Dunno if he'd find a mage group extreme enough to harbor the guy who started the giant mess.

I let the guy live because you don't kill off your active and only healer in the party.

I wouldn't have killed him either way anyway as I have OCD in trying to keep NPCs and characters alive.

Modifié par Ziegrif, 01 janvier 2014 - 02:08 .

[Bizantura]

Preparing the way for me by blowing a lot chantries to smithereens.

[KC_Prototype]

He is more likely leading a resistance of mages against all Templars; Chantry or not, their gonna die in his presence. I let him live in my warrior play through and killed him in my mage play.

[KainD]

I think Anders is shagging Hawke, wherever they disappear to.