So being himself?DoomHK wrote...
Nefla wrote...
Probably being a useless, whiney, hypocritical douchbag but that's something I'll never find out since I always kill him.
If allowed to live, what do you think Anders is doing between DA2 and DAI?
#76
Posté 01 janvier 2014 - 10:50
#77
Guest_Craig Golightly_*
Posté 01 janvier 2014 - 10:52
Guest_Craig Golightly_*
Mr.House wrote...
So being himself?DoomHK wrote...
Nefla wrote...
Probably being a useless, whiney, hypocritical douchbag but that's something I'll never find out since I always kill him.
Dead? Yeah.
#78
Posté 01 janvier 2014 - 10:56
Nah being a whiney hypocritical douchnag.MasterScribe wrote...
Mr.House wrote...
So being himself?DoomHK wrote...
Nefla wrote...
Probably being a useless, whiney, hypocritical douchbag but that's something I'll never find out since I always kill him.
Dead? Yeah.
#79
Guest_Craig Golightly_*
Posté 01 janvier 2014 - 10:57
Guest_Craig Golightly_*
Mr.House wrote...
Nah being a whiney hypocritical douchnag.MasterScribe wrote...
Mr.House wrote...
So being himself?DoomHK wrote...
Nefla wrote...
Probably being a useless, whiney, hypocritical douchbag but that's something I'll never find out since I always kill him.
Dead? Yeah.
Who is dead.
#80
Posté 01 janvier 2014 - 10:57
MasterScribe wrote...
Mr.House wrote...
Nah being a whiney hypocritical douchnag.MasterScribe wrote...
Mr.House wrote...
So being himself?DoomHK wrote...
Nefla wrote...
Probably being a useless, whiney, hypocritical douchbag but that's something I'll never find out since I always kill him.
Dead? Yeah.
Who is dead.
#81
Posté 01 janvier 2014 - 11:00
#82
Posté 01 janvier 2014 - 03:01
With that being said, I believe he is on the run and helping mages fight templars in the cases where I sided with mages or kills himself when I sided with templars. In the case of the romance same thing but he is on the run and fighting templars with Hawke
Modifié par jvaz, 01 janvier 2014 - 03:10 .
#83
Posté 01 janvier 2014 - 03:31
#84
Posté 01 janvier 2014 - 03:42
#85
Posté 01 janvier 2014 - 03:55
In my alternate playthrough, he and Hawke stayed together, so I think that they remained on the run, hiding from templars and assassins and slowly building support for a templar resistance movement.
#86
Posté 01 janvier 2014 - 04:18
#87
Posté 01 janvier 2014 - 04:37
Despite his confidence in his actions, Anders strikes me as absolutely loathing what he has become in Last Straw. Maybe a Hawke that sides with the mages and convinces him to help out could rouse him out of it. Maybe. I've never had a character that let him live so I don't know.
I'm inclined to think that Anders life only turns worse from that point. The Justice/Vengence side of himself will not let him rest or kill himself. The Anders' side shift back and forth between trying to escape or slumping into a deep depression. Increasingly losing self-restraint. Losing the ability to discern innocent from guilty or to hold back now for a smarter tactical move later. Becoming explosive or lethargic in his action with nothing inbetween.
Being unable to sleep because Justice/Vengence is restless, unable to appriciate food because Anders is depressed. Becoming increasingly self-destructive.
I see Ander's life after Kirkwall as one of utter misery... and one he can only end with his death at someone else's hands.
Damn... I don't know why I default towards depressing stories...
#88
Posté 01 janvier 2014 - 04:56
#89
Posté 01 janvier 2014 - 05:00
Magdalena11 wrote...
Anders' story is depressing, isn't it? I doubt he'l show up in DAI cuz of the flak about potential retconning and if he's dead in DA2. I'm glad. I'd like it if he was relegated to the headcanon realm. I really can't even see why, story wise, he would even appear in DAI. The veil tear is beyond his and Justice's scope combined (or why wouldn't Justice have gone back to the fade) and there are new characters to develop.
In the wiki page it say Gaider confirmed that if Hawke stabbed Anders, then he died for good, but Justice... that's another story. So I'm getting the feeling Anders will show up if spared.
#90
Posté 01 janvier 2014 - 05:06
#91
Posté 01 janvier 2014 - 05:20
daveliam wrote...
Yeah, given his "determinant" status, I can't see him playing a big role. They already retconned one potential death for him, so I don't see them doing it again. I'm thinking that, if he lives, he'll be mentioned and probably make a cameo, but that's the extent of it.
Best scenarios of Anders having a great roles are these:
A new mage character will be introduced to us maybe a leader of mage resistace or something and if Anders is alive he will replace this new mage somehow, either the new mages dies or doesn't appear at all.
Also its chances are very slim but Anders can also become a replacement companion but even if it happens he won't have a big impact or a lot of lines, not unique ones anyway. Like Kaidan/Ashely scenario that happened in ME3. But again as I said the chance of him being a companion is slim but its there nonetheless. Note that I'm talking about an alive Anders.
Also Anders can appear as Anders even in playthroughs that he was killed in DA2. Justice is fooling everyone by acting as Anders and since probably most of DA2 characters are not around no one will confirm his death and everyone will think he is Anders while he is purely Justice or Vengeance for that matter. Depends on if Anders death freed justice from corruption of Vengeance.
Modifié par Rassler, 01 janvier 2014 - 05:30 .
#92
Posté 01 janvier 2014 - 07:23
If he could actually find a way to separate himself and Justice, he might be able to get somewhere, but I think Justice has way too much control over Anders compared to Faith and Wynne.Sir JK wrote...
Maybe it's my melancholic side speaking, but I cannot imagine an Anders that lived happy.
Despite his confidence in his actions, Anders strikes me as absolutely loathing what he has become in Last Straw. Maybe a Hawke that sides with the mages and convinces him to help out could rouse him out of it. Maybe. I've never had a character that let him live so I don't know.
I'm inclined to think that Anders life only turns worse from that point. The Justice/Vengence side of himself will not let him rest or kill himself. The Anders' side shift back and forth between trying to escape or slumping into a deep depression. Increasingly losing self-restraint. Losing the ability to discern innocent from guilty or to hold back now for a smarter tactical move later. Becoming explosive or lethargic in his action with nothing inbetween.
Being unable to sleep because Justice/Vengence is restless, unable to appriciate food because Anders is depressed. Becoming increasingly self-destructive.
I see Ander's life after Kirkwall as one of utter misery... and one he can only end with his death at someone else's hands.
Damn... I don't know why I default towards depressing stories...
#93
Posté 01 janvier 2014 - 07:26
#94
Posté 01 janvier 2014 - 07:30
#95
Posté 01 janvier 2014 - 07:44
Sir JK wrote...
Maybe it's my melancholic side speaking, but I cannot imagine an Anders that lived happy.
Despite his confidence in his actions, Anders strikes me as absolutely loathing what he has become in Last Straw. Maybe a Hawke that sides with the mages and convinces him to help out could rouse him out of it. Maybe. I've never had a character that let him live so I don't know.
I'm inclined to think that Anders life only turns worse from that point. The Justice/Vengence side of himself will not let him rest or kill himself. The Anders' side shift back and forth between trying to escape or slumping into a deep depression. Increasingly losing self-restraint. Losing the ability to discern innocent from guilty or to hold back now for a smarter tactical move later. Becoming explosive or lethargic in his action with nothing inbetween.
Being unable to sleep because Justice/Vengence is restless, unable to appriciate food because Anders is depressed. Becoming increasingly self-destructive.
I see Ander's life after Kirkwall as one of utter misery... and one he can only end with his death at someone else's hands.
Damn... I don't know why I default towards depressing stories...
Out of all the times we were with Anders, in any of the talks we had with him or the banter he had with others, was there ever a happy talk that just took a moment to enjoy life without the talk of mages and templars. It seems like he wanted this to happen more then anyone if you ask me.
#96
Posté 01 janvier 2014 - 07:47
#97
Posté 01 janvier 2014 - 07:57
#98
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Posté 01 janvier 2014 - 07:58
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#99
Posté 01 janvier 2014 - 08:28
Hawkespawn first word: BOOM
#100
Posté 01 janvier 2014 - 09:23
My characters are moderates who really don't like extremism in any form and prefer that change be primarily orderly in nature. Blowing up a chantry with Maker knows how many innocent people inside and near it is a form of chaotic change that is most unwelcome and, in Anders' case, soul-scarring.
To make up for his sins, I envision Anders being reborn into multiple lives, with each life being unjustly snuffed out because an extremist killed him (or her, depending on the body Anders' soul winds up in). Only through this does Anders' experience the results of extremist actions and, thus, grows to a point where his soul advances into a productive life that brings about change to a moribund society — without necessarily blowing up the entire system.





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