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If allowed to live, what do you think Anders is doing between DA2 and DAI?


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DoomHK wrote...

Nefla wrote...

Probably being a useless, whiney, hypocritical douchbag but that's something I'll never find out since I always kill him.

So being himself?

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Mr.House wrote...

DoomHK wrote...

Nefla wrote...

Probably being a useless, whiney, hypocritical douchbag but that's something I'll never find out since I always kill him.

So being himself?


Dead? Yeah.

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MasterScribe wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

DoomHK wrote...

Nefla wrote...

Probably being a useless, whiney, hypocritical douchbag but that's something I'll never find out since I always kill him.

So being himself?


Dead? Yeah.

Nah being a whiney hypocritical douchnag.

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Mr.House wrote...

MasterScribe wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

DoomHK wrote...

Nefla wrote...

Probably being a useless, whiney, hypocritical douchbag but that's something I'll never find out since I always kill him.

So being himself?


Dead? Yeah.

Nah being a whiney hypocritical douchnag.


Who is dead. :D

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MasterScribe wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

MasterScribe wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

DoomHK wrote...

Nefla wrote...

Probably being a useless, whiney, hypocritical douchbag but that's something I'll never find out since I always kill him.

So being himself?


Dead? Yeah.

Nah being a whiney hypocritical douchnag.


Who is dead. :D

B)

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Not killed him for not creating a martyr but now i'm pretty curious to find what happen to him in inquisition.

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The only playthroughs that I let him live are the ones where he saves Carver/Bethany in the Deep Roads. And once where I side with Templars and make him kill mages. And once where my mage Hawke romances him (Carver died in Deep Roads on this save). Four saves. And at the Last Straw when I sided with mages (bethany and carver as grey wardens, still alive) I tell him to just go and tell him to leave again in the Gallows. Otherwise, he is dead. Bottom line I figure you owe him a pass if he saved your siblings life or he is your romance

With that being said, I believe he is on the run and helping mages fight templars in the cases where I sided with mages or kills himself when I sided with templars.  In the case of the romance same thing but he is on the run and fighting templars with Hawke

Modifié par jvaz, 01 janvier 2014 - 03:10 .


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In the games where I let him live, I usually tell him to get lost when he shows up again. I always assumed he was being hunted and going insane. It will be interesting to see if DAI handles that story thread.

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my guess would be killing templars... or tending bar somewhere.

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In my "canon" playthrough, I let him live but sent him away. In this scenario, I would think that he would continue to sink further into depression and obsession and continue his terrorist bent.

In my alternate playthrough, he and Hawke stayed together, so I think that they remained on the run, hiding from templars and assassins and slowly building support for a templar resistance movement.

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If Anders somehow managed to escape my Hawkes fury (He never has) then He'd have to contend with my Warden sending elite mercenaries, Wardens etc. Dragging him back to Amaranthine in chains (To be put on trial and executed)..Failing that My warden would just have the Antivan crows or something drive a dagger into the back of his skull for desertion and murder of his fellow Wardens.

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Maybe it's my melancholic side speaking, but I cannot imagine an Anders that lived happy.

Despite his confidence in his actions, Anders strikes me as absolutely loathing what he has become in Last Straw. Maybe a Hawke that sides with the mages and convinces him to help out could rouse him out of it. Maybe. I've never had a character that let him live so I don't know.

I'm inclined to think that Anders life only turns worse from that point. The Justice/Vengence side of himself will not let him rest or kill himself. The Anders' side shift back and forth between trying to escape or slumping into a deep depression. Increasingly losing self-restraint. Losing the ability to discern innocent from guilty or to hold back now for a smarter tactical move later. Becoming explosive or lethargic in his action with nothing inbetween.
Being unable to sleep because Justice/Vengence is restless, unable to appriciate food because Anders is depressed. Becoming increasingly self-destructive.

I see Ander's life after Kirkwall as one of utter misery... and one he can only end with his death at someone else's hands.

Damn... I don't know why I default towards depressing stories...

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Anders' story is depressing, isn't it? I doubt he'l show up in DAI cuz of the flak about potential retconning and if he's dead in DA2. I'm glad. I'd like it if he was relegated to the headcanon realm. I really can't even see why, story wise, he would even appear in DAI. The veil tear is beyond his and Justice's scope combined (or why wouldn't Justice have gone back to the fade) and there are new characters to develop.

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Magdalena11 wrote...

Anders' story is depressing, isn't it? I doubt he'l show up in DAI cuz of the flak about potential retconning and if he's dead in DA2. I'm glad. I'd like it if he was relegated to the headcanon realm. I really can't even see why, story wise, he would even appear in DAI. The veil tear is beyond his and Justice's scope combined (or why wouldn't Justice have gone back to the fade) and there are new characters to develop.


In the wiki page it say Gaider confirmed that if Hawke stabbed Anders, then he died for good, but Justice... that's another story. So I'm getting the feeling Anders will show up if spared.

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Yeah, given his "determinant" status, I can't see him playing a big role. They already retconned one potential death for him, so I don't see them doing it again. I'm thinking that, if he lives, he'll be mentioned and probably make a cameo, but that's the extent of it.

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daveliam wrote...

Yeah, given his "determinant" status, I can't see him playing a big role. They already retconned one potential death for him, so I don't see them doing it again. I'm thinking that, if he lives, he'll be mentioned and probably make a cameo, but that's the extent of it.


Best scenarios of Anders having a great roles are these:

A new mage character will be introduced to us maybe a leader of mage resistace or something and if Anders is alive he will replace this new mage somehow, either the new mages dies or doesn't appear at all.

Also its chances are very slim but Anders can also become a replacement companion but even if it happens he won't have a big impact or a lot of lines, not unique ones anyway. Like Kaidan/Ashely scenario that happened in ME3. But again as I said the chance of him being a companion is slim but its there nonetheless. Note that I'm talking about an alive Anders.

Also Anders can appear as Anders even in playthroughs that he was killed in DA2. Justice is fooling everyone by acting as Anders and since probably most of DA2 characters are not around no one will confirm his death and everyone will think he is Anders while he is purely Justice or Vengeance for that matter. Depends on if Anders death freed justice from corruption of Vengeance.

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Sir JK wrote...

Maybe it's my melancholic side speaking, but I cannot imagine an Anders that lived happy.

Despite his confidence in his actions, Anders strikes me as absolutely loathing what he has become in Last Straw. Maybe a Hawke that sides with the mages and convinces him to help out could rouse him out of it. Maybe. I've never had a character that let him live so I don't know.

I'm inclined to think that Anders life only turns worse from that point. The Justice/Vengence side of himself will not let him rest or kill himself. The Anders' side shift back and forth between trying to escape or slumping into a deep depression. Increasingly losing self-restraint. Losing the ability to discern innocent from guilty or to hold back now for a smarter tactical move later. Becoming explosive or lethargic in his action with nothing inbetween.
Being unable to sleep because Justice/Vengence is restless, unable to appriciate food because Anders is depressed. Becoming increasingly self-destructive.

I see Ander's life after Kirkwall as one of utter misery... and one he can only end with his death at someone else's hands.

Damn... I don't know why I default towards depressing stories...

If he could actually find a way to separate himself and Justice, he might be able to get somewhere, but I think Justice has way too much control over Anders compared to Faith and Wynne.

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Hunting down the humourless Skrull that impersonated him in DAII and killing it horribly while singing a song about kittens and mittens.

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I think it more or less comes down to what his relationship with Hawke is, I let him live and was a friend to him (what a great friend he was), however he did see that his infusion with Justice was a mistake, so I think he'll at least try to remove him or send him back to the fade before helping the rebellion.

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Sir JK wrote...

Maybe it's my melancholic side speaking, but I cannot imagine an Anders that lived happy.

Despite his confidence in his actions, Anders strikes me as absolutely loathing what he has become in Last Straw. Maybe a Hawke that sides with the mages and convinces him to help out could rouse him out of it. Maybe. I've never had a character that let him live so I don't know.

I'm inclined to think that Anders life only turns worse from that point. The Justice/Vengence side of himself will not let him rest or kill himself. The Anders' side shift back and forth between trying to escape or slumping into a deep depression. Increasingly losing self-restraint. Losing the ability to discern innocent from guilty or to hold back now for a smarter tactical move later. Becoming explosive or lethargic in his action with nothing inbetween.
Being unable to sleep because Justice/Vengence is restless, unable to appriciate food because Anders is depressed. Becoming increasingly self-destructive.

I see Ander's life after Kirkwall as one of utter misery... and one he can only end with his death at someone else's hands.

Damn... I don't know why I default towards depressing stories...


Out of all the times we were with Anders, in any of the talks we had with him or the banter he had with others, was there ever a happy talk that just took a moment to enjoy life without the talk of mages and templars.  It seems like he wanted this to happen more then anyone if you ask me.

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In my "headcanon" Anders died while fighting Meridith, and Justice left his body. Then, being a Mage, I revived him, and after killing Meridith we both sailed away on Isabela's ship, and are now living on a small island which has no Circle, no Chantry, no Wardens. We are raising a family and are very happy. There, problem solved. :-)

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Most likely hiding under a rock waiting for someone else to clean up the mess he made because that's all he does.

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Writing crappy poetry.

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What Hawkes of mine that let him live typically ran him off after the Great Chantry Kaboom, those who had him stay are likely still on the run with him. God help any of the female Hawkes if they have Hawkespawn.

Hawkespawn first word: BOOM

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Anders dies in my playthroughs.

My characters are moderates who really don't like extremism in any form and prefer that change be primarily orderly in nature. Blowing up a chantry with Maker knows how many innocent people inside and near it is a form of chaotic change that is most unwelcome and, in Anders' case, soul-scarring.

To make up for his sins, I envision Anders being reborn into multiple lives, with each life being unjustly snuffed out because an extremist killed him (or her, depending on the body Anders' soul winds up in). Only through this does Anders' experience the results of extremist actions and, thus, grows to a point where his soul advances into a productive life that brings about change to a moribund society — without necessarily blowing up the entire system.