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#51
Moghedia

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Blood magic is a tool nothing more, any tool has the potential to be abused. Its the intent of the Mage that matters.

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Dabrikishaw

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An alternate source of power for spells that few can use without becoming or already being evil.

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Both the Mage Warden and Hawke I'll be using as import saw it as a very powerful and dangerous tool.
A tool that might end up costing you way more than its worth thus, ultimately, something better used only in desperate situations and generally better avoided at all costs.

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I've always supported the Legitimazation of Blood Magic as a proper group of study.

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Anything that uses pain, suffering, and death as its power source is inherently evil. On top of that, blood magic, according to the writers, absolutely attracts demons and makes you more susceptible to possession.

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Why aren't Reavers as reviled and killed on site like Blood Mages since what Reavers use is basically Blood Magic for warriors?

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SgtSteel91 wrote...

Why aren't Reavers as reviled and killed on site like Blood Mages since what Reavers use is basically Blood Magic for warriors?


Much more rare and unknown about, and no mind control powers.

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Hellion Rex

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SgtSteel91 wrote...

Why aren't Reavers as reviled and killed on site like Blood Mages since what Reavers use is basically Blood Magic for warriors?

They can't cast spells like mages. And also, they just trade their pain and blood for greater strength and speed, as well as the psychic aura thing that they can do. 

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TK514 wrote...

Anything that uses pain, suffering, and death as its power source is inherently evil. On top of that, blood magic, according to the writers, absolutely attracts demons and makes you more susceptible to possession.


So be it. Whatever it takes to maintain freedom.

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The Baconer wrote...

I think any arguments to be made for its practical use went out the window with World of Thedas.

Although, the example they used with Tirena of the Rock didn't work very well as an argument against it.


what was said in WoT?

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Nightdragon8 wrote...

The Baconer wrote...

I think any arguments to be made for its practical use went out the window with World of Thedas.

Although, the example they used with Tirena of the Rock didn't work very well as an argument against it.


what was said in WoT?


There was a story of a guy who used blood magic to save his lover from an incurable disease, at the cost of his own life. I think that is to what they were referring. 

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eluvianix wrote...

There was a story of a guy who used blood magic to save his lover from an incurable disease, at the cost of his own life. I think that is to what they were referring. 


Now, Eluvian.  You and I both know EXACTLY what they are refering to.

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Veruin wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

There was a story of a guy who used blood magic to save his lover from an incurable disease, at the cost of his own life. I think that is to what they were referring. 


Now, Eluvian.  You and I both know EXACTLY what they are refering to.

I have viewed World of Thedas only once, and that was several months ago. My memory isn't exactly spot on. Was Tirena the Qunari blood boiler then?

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I have nothing against carefully controlled and monitored blood magic, but it's not something I think should be taught to any apprentice or low ranked mage.

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eluvianix wrote...

I have viewed World of Thedas only once, and that was several months ago. My memory isn't exactly spot on. Was Tirena the Qunari blood boiler then?


I don't have WoT my self, but I'm fairly certain they are referring to the pain and suffering part.  I don't see how someone sacrificing themselves would make people reconsider their stance on blood magic. :lol:

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Veruin wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

I have viewed World of Thedas only once, and that was several months ago. My memory isn't exactly spot on. Was Tirena the Qunari blood boiler then?


I don't have WoT my self, but I'm fairly certain they are referring to the pain and suffering part.  I don't see how someone sacrificing themselves would make people reconsider their stance on blood magic. :lol:

Yeah, when they mentioned Tirena, I thought they were referring to Crescens and Seraphinian. My bad lol. :D

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eluvianix wrote...
Yeah, when they mentioned Tirena, I thought they were referring to Crescens and Seraphinian. My bad lol. :D


It's my bad for not even seeing the Tirena part/know what the hell it is.:lol:

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Nightdragon8 wrote...
what was said in WoT?


"The more violent the pain or death used in blood magic, the more powerful a spell becomes"

So it seems to be explicitly powered by Evulz rather than the blood itself. The example of its use I was referring to comes from this quote:

"Some still idolize Tirena of the Rock, who used blood magic against the Qunari during the Steel Age. They say she cut her flesh on the shore of Marnas Pell as the dreadnoughts sailed in, turned her spells against their crews, and boiled the very blood in their veins. A terrifying display, to be sure, but against Qunari? It only made them more determined when they besieged the ports of Carastes."

So the premise here is that they they suffered more heavily at Carestes because Tirena had to go and make the Qunari butthurt, which sounds like a rather cruddy line of reasoning to follow. It'd be more logical to assume that whatever happened at Carestes was going to happen either way, or that they fared poorly because they were unable to replicate Tirena's results.

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Am pro mage and pro blood magic it can be use for good and bad deeds all of my mage wardens and hawks used blood magic and my inquisitor will to also blood magic has aloowed tevinter to hold back the qunari all this time so I say use it

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Jaronking wrote...

Am pro mage and pro blood magic it can be use for good and bad deeds all of my mage wardens and hawks used blood magic and my inquisitor will to also blood magic has aloowed tevinter to hold back the qunari all this time so I say use it


Everytime I read someone saying that their (insert PC here) used it and nothing bad happened,  I can't help but facepalm. :mellow:

Modifié par Veruin, 01 janvier 2014 - 10:57 .


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Veruin wrote...

Jaronking wrote...

Am pro mage and pro blood magic it can be use for good and bad deeds all of my mage wardens and hawks used blood magic and my inquisitor will to also blood magic has aloowed tevinter to hold back the qunari all this time so I say use it


Everytime I read someone saying that their (insert PC here) used it and nothing bad happened,  I can't help but facepalm. :mellow:


Remember though, our mages are the best spellcasters in Thedas. :P

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I'll be against blood magic even playing as a mage, and I want the option for my mage to look at any mage using blood magic, look at them like they're fools, and then facepalm at them whenever he can at how stupid they were to use it.

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Darth Brotarian wrote...

I'll be against blood magic even playing as a mage, and I want the option for my mage to look at any mage using blood magic, look at them like they're fools, and then facepalm at them whenever he can at how stupid they were to use it.


Its a useful school of magic and anyone not using is stupid and the main reason all southern based mages are weak and fail at life.

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101ezylonhxeT wrote...
Its a useful school of magic and anyone not using is stupid and the main reason all southern based mages are weak and fail at life.


Thank you for enlightning us.

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101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Darth Brotarian wrote...

I'll be against blood magic even playing as a mage, and I want the option for my mage to look at any mage using blood magic, look at them like they're fools, and then facepalm at them whenever he can at how stupid they were to use it.


Its a useful school of magic and anyone not using is stupid and the main reason all southern based mages are weak and fail at life.

I would pick a Southern mage over a Tevinter one any day of the week.