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Does anyone have a REAL reason to hate Fenris?


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#126
Catilina

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You still hate me *****?!

 

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You still hate me *****?!

 

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I can't bring myself to hate Fenris (but you probably knew that already, Catilina ;) ).  But hey, to each their own.


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#128
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That's true. They do like recycling stories and character archetypes. 

 

Problem is, the stories and archetypes BioWare seems to like retelling best are the ones I wish they'd lay off for a bit. Despite Andrastian human nobility and the Chantry being my least favorite aspects of Thedas, those seem to get the most attention game after game after game. (Even the so-called mage/Templar conflict is really Andrastian human Circle mages and Templars.) Not for nothing most players say of each game, "It's best to play a human noble / human mage because they have most stake in most of the story." (I personally disagree, but one could make the argument.)

 

So far the majority of companions also seem to be Andrastian humans (except Morrigan and Isabela), with only one or two non-human companions of their race per game. Even then, the one or two elven or dwarven companions (for example) are supposed to be exceptions to their people and/or meant to exemplify how much their cultures suck. For dwarves, Oghren is a ridiculous clown, Sigrun was victimized by Orzammar's strict caste system, and Varric is the cool surface dwarf who despises everything Orzammar. For elves, BioWare just keeps recycling the "city elf who dislikes elven culture" companion, like Zevran (who says things like, "elves plant these trees to symbolize their culture, then ****** on it. Charming symbolism, really,"), Fenris (who looks down on city and Dalish elves, which I've already expressed my distaste for), and now Sera (who is so "F*CK ALL ELVES!" it hurts). They also keep reusing the Dalish mage character (Velanna, Merrill, and Mage Lavellan) whose personal quests and stories are all imbued with middle fingers to the Dalish. 

 

Meanwhile, what do we have on the human end? Honorable "Knight in Shining Armor" characters every game (Alistair, Aveline, Cassandra, DAI Cullen; even Blackwall if you let him pursue redemption), devout Andrastian holy warriors (Leliana, Sebastian, Cassandra and Cullen again), human hedge and Circle mages (Morrigan, Wynne, Anders, Bethany, Vivienne, Dorian, etc), a heavy Andrastian human focus to the mage question (since the focus is always Andrastian human Circle mages and Chantry Templars), and even our two spirit companions all happened to choose human forms (Justice and Cole). 

 

I'm not a fan. I'm sick to death of human nobility and Andrastianism and want to explore other fantastical races and cultures in Thedas (Orzammar, Kal-Sharok, Qunari, Tal-Vashoth, Chasind, Avvar, Rivain, Seheron and Par Vollen, intelligent darkspawn, anything elven, etc), but BioWare's just in love with human nobility and Chantry politics, and they keep making it the focus and the majority of companions every game.

Although I like most of the companions, I have to agree about them being the same archetypes in nearly every game. And I, too, want to explore something different and not just the Andrastian/human background. I don't know, if the game developers think, that because the players are human, they like to play in a human enviroment, but if that's the case, they are clearly wrong. So hopefully, we will get to see the non-human and non-Andrastian parts of Thedas soon.

 

As to Fenris: I agree with you, Revassan Lavellan, about him being a big hypocrate. I somehow like him, but he has some very strange opinions and I wish, they would have toned that down a bit. I'm ok with him not liking Merrill, most of my Hawkes give Merrill a hard time because of her really careless handling with demons and bloodmagic, and since bloodmagic is one of the baddest things (aside from slavery of course) in Tevinter, I can understand, how Fenris have no Tolerance for that. And I can understand him not liking Anders - they are on two different sides, the only thing they have in common (in my games) is their friendship with Hawke.



#129
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He's too much-hate all mages- in a mage playthrough for me. One of the harder decisions will be if my mage can tolerate him in the party for the sake of the extra Rune of Fortune and/or the skills he has which are really quite effective.

 

Thankfully, there is no need to put him in the party for Act 1 for ROF purposes, but it'll be a hard decision when i get to Act 2. I've already have -20 rivalry and I'll need to watch things to avoid any more rivalry points.



#130
Catilina

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I like this moment after the kill of Hadriana, when Fenris want to rotten all the mages... You can conforting him, but i prefer this option (also in love relation):

 

"Let's not forget, who you're talking to!"  (Not only Fenris can be angry...) ;)

 

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