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[sr2josh]

I sincerely hope not because I've loved how BW gets fans actively involved in the development of games via feedback on forums like this one.  I'm still seeing some whiny topics like "Bioware didn't learn it's lesoon" or somehow bat s*#t crazy stuff like IT still being discussed.  However, I hope that most fans like myself appreciate the hard work BioWare does on this franchise and are excited to see the next installment in the ME saga. 

[David7204]

They probably consider it worse than ever.

[SilJeff]

I think until the next game comes out, the boards will stay as toxic as they have been. I think once me3 is no longer the newest game, it will get better

[David7204]

The couple of months between the likely official announcement of the next Mass Effect and the release of Inquisition are likely to be the worst at all. Which might well be a factor in BioWare wanting to put it off.

And if Inquisition turns out to be a disappointment for some reason...whoo boy...

Modifié par David7204, 01 janvier 2014 - 06:59 .

[SwobyJ]

They probably think that forums in general are toxic and 'social media' holds the key to a positive player-developer relationship.

They're wrong, but hey, let them make mistakes.

[McFlurry598]

SilJeff wrote...

I think until the next game comes out, the boards will stay as toxic as they have been. I think once me3 is no longer the newest game, it will get better

This. Once the next Mass Effect installment comes out, Mass Effect 3 won't be the newest, or the best(it's not) I think most fans will agree Mass Effect 1 is the best(microsoft games studios is a better publisher than EA by far)so far. I, also hate that there is even discussion threads about the next Mass Effect. There's hasn't been enough information released to even have an opinion about it.

Modifié par McFlurry598, 01 janvier 2014 - 07:24 .

[David7204]

McFlurry598 wrote...

I think most fans will agree Mass Effect is the best(microsoft games studios is a better publisher than EA by far)so far.

I seriously doubt that.

[McFlurry598]

David7204 wrote...

McFlurry598 wrote...

I think most fans will agree Mass Effect is the best(microsoft games studios is a better publisher than EA by far)so far.

I seriously doubt that.

you doubt that Mass Effect 1 is favored by more?

[David7204]

I do.

[sr2josh]

McFlurry598 wrote...

David7204 wrote...

McFlurry598 wrote...

I think most fans will agree Mass Effect is the best(microsoft games studios is a better publisher than EA by far)so far.

I seriously doubt that.

you doubt that Mass Effect 1 is favored by more?

Microsoft Game Studios are just a fraction better than EA as a publisher which isn't saying very much.  Ubisoft, Activision, and Bethesda Softworks would way better than those two by a lot.  As for the best game in the franchise, IMO it's ME2 but I love all three.

[TheTurtle]

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Microsoft Game Studios are just a fraction better than EA as a publisher which isn't saying very much.  Ubisoft, Activision, and Bethesda Softworks would way better than those two by a lot.  As for the best game in the franchise, IMO it's ME2 but I love all three.
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Bethesda maybe, but Activision and Ubisoft have the undesirable trait of running franchises into the ground. Honestly the ony reason Activision isn't as hated as EA is because the don't put out as many games and thhey don't buy out as many companies.

Modifié par DalyaTheTurtle, 01 janvier 2014 - 08:34 .

[FlamingBoy]

If toxic = criticism, then yes

[sr2josh]

FlamingBoy wrote...

If toxic = criticism, then yes

feedback = praise/constructive criticism

toxic = hissy fits/mindless rants/hundreds of cupcakes/death threaths

[Br3admax]

Has BSN changed for the better? Still, it certainly has it's charm.

[Cainhurst Crow]

It has the charm of stale beer and undercooked oysters at a barbecue.

Modifié par Darth Brotarian, 01 janvier 2014 - 09:15 .

[ObserverStatus]

Yeah, probably.

[Gravisanimi]

If they don't, then that semi full of hazmat suits I sent them just seems silly.

[CynicalShep]

They're pretty much slowly nuking the forum, OP. What does that tell you?

[FlamingBoy]

Makai81 wrote...

FlamingBoy wrote...

If toxic = criticism, then yes

feedback = praise/constructive criticism

toxic = hissy fits/mindless rants/hundreds of cupcakes/death threaths

 so "bad feedback" = hissy fits (what consitutes a hissy fit?), mindless rants (what rants are mindless? and ones not so?), and forms of protest (cupcakes)

I wasn't aware death threats were a daily occurence in bsn. Yes I am mocking you, you can put that under toxic

Edit: the reality is bioware doesn't handle criticism very well, and in order to quell dissent they are quick to show the occasional homophobic and deaththreats and pretend as if its common place amongst the community.
When reality it is not.

Modifié par FlamingBoy, 01 janvier 2014 - 09:26 .

[FlamingBoy]

StreetMagic wrote...

FlamingBoy wrote...

Makai81 wrote...

FlamingBoy wrote...

If toxic = criticism, then yes

feedback = praise/constructive criticism

toxic = hissy fits/mindless rants/hundreds of cupcakes/death threaths

 so "bad feedback" = hissy fits (what consitutes a hissy fit?), mindless rants (what rants are mindless? and ones not so?), and forms of protest (cupcakes)

I wasn't aware death threats were a daily occurence in bsn. Yes I am mocking you, you can put that under toxic

Edit: the reality is bioware doesn't handle criticism very well, and in order to quell dissent they are quick to show the occasional homophobic and deaththreats and pretend as if its common place amongst the community.
When reality it is not.

Despite agreeing, I don't think the name "FlamingBoy" is helping your case much.

lol, you have a good point.

What can I say I like idea of myself on fire when I play games, did not think of internet culture ramnifications^_^

[Mr.House]

Makai81 wrote...

McFlurry598 wrote...

David7204 wrote...

McFlurry598 wrote...

I think most fans will agree Mass Effect is the best(microsoft games studios is a better publisher than EA by far)so far.

I seriously doubt that.

you doubt that Mass Effect 1 is favored by more?

Microsoft Game Studios are just a fraction better than EA as a publisher which isn't saying very much.  Ubisoft, Activision, and Bethesda Softworks would way better than those two by a lot.  As for the best game in the franchise, IMO it's ME2 but I love all three.

hahahahahaha please. Bethesda, Activsion and Ubisoft are just as bad as EA. Though none of them are close to Capcom.

[Ieldra]

"Toxic" is the state of things that you can't say something good about a game or an element within it on a forum without getting swarmed by haters; and by "haters", I don't mean those who simply disagree, but those who pour their hate on the person who said the "disagreeable" thing, or the developers. 

The ME3 forum has gotten less toxic by the simple expedient that many players have left, and that that those who remain have mostly gained some emotional detachment.

Emotional criticism is valid. It is valid to call ME3's ending a trainwreck, to say that ME3 is depressing, that you feel betrayed by it and other things more. "Toxic", that's when a group of posters descend like furies on anyone who disagrees - or the developers - as if it was an offense to even hold a different opinion. This is toxic because it drives people away who want to discuss the game - not necessarily without passion, but in a somewhat reasonable manner.

Having said that, developer presence can reduce the toxicity level. There are always jerks, but as a rule people tend to be a little more polite if developers are present. Also from the developer side, it helps if certain things are explained, if they're honest, and if unreasonable demands or expectations are rejected by them in a candid manner. I'm seeing this in the DAI forum. It doesn't really help if depressed and confused fans - there are still elements in ME3's ending that leave me scratching my head after almost two years - are left to stew in their own juice, or with marketing speak.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 01 janvier 2014 - 10:08 .

[sr2josh]

StreetMagic wrote...

FlamingBoy wrote...

Makai81 wrote...

FlamingBoy wrote...

If toxic = criticism, then yes

feedback = praise/constructive criticism

toxic = hissy fits/mindless rants/hundreds of cupcakes/death threaths

 so "bad feedback" = hissy fits (what consitutes a hissy fit?), mindless rants (what rants are mindless? and ones not so?), and forms of protest (cupcakes)

I wasn't aware death threats were a daily occurence in bsn. Yes I am mocking you, you can put that under toxic

Edit: the reality is bioware doesn't handle criticism very well, and in order to quell dissent they are quick to show the occasional homophobic and deaththreats and pretend as if its common place amongst the community.
When reality it is not.

Despite agreeing, I don't think the name "FlamingBoy" is helping your case much.