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What if Kal Reegar's death meant more than we think? (Crazy MEnexst stuff)


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Stakrin

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 He gave his life fixing something that would help keep information getting to the turian hierarchy.

maybe if it is a sequel, the next mass effect can welcome Quarians to the council, after Tali and Kal set such good examples. 

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Farangbaa

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Or Tali puts up a fight to get the Geth in the council.

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I always thought the Geth and Quarians would get the same Councilor.

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I think his death was a matter of BW not putting him in the game for ****ty reasons.

It is what it is.

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No. He died and that's it.

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People are too negative.

Yeah, duh, they didn't want him and/or his voice actor in the game. OK.

But that doesn't mean they won't use stuff, even random stuff, they've written before.

It could be nothing or it could be huge OP. We'll have to see!

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I think they planned on doing more of Palaven in general. Perhaps Reegar's story would have at least been interesting that way, even if he died. It doesn't amount to much though if reduced to an email. haha.. It's better to not even mention something like that. Why bother.

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ImaginaryMatter wrote...

I always thought the Geth and Quarians would get the same Councilor.


You know, I would like that. (Peace outcome)

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StreetMagic wrote...

I think they planned on doing more of Palaven in general. Perhaps Reegar's story would have at least been interesting that way, even if he died. It doesn't amount to much though if reduced to an email. haha.. It's better to not even mention something like that. Why bother.


I felt the same way, which is why I hoped it was foreshadowing, or at least something they could look back on. 

If they actually point out specific emails and make them matter, make someone other than Shepard/ his main squad) have a lasting effect on the galaxy, I think it'd be great

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The Quarians will have to "be fruitful and multiply" for a couple hundred years before they are numerous enough to warrant a seat on the council. That is reserved for races with that much pull both militarily AND economically.

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NeroonWilliams wrote...

The Quarians will have to "be fruitful and multiply" for a couple hundred years before they are numerous enough to warrant a seat on the council. That is reserved for races with that much pull both militarily AND economically.


Quarians, just add Geth.

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NeroonWilliams wrote...

The Quarians will have to "be fruitful and multiply" for a couple hundred years before they are numerous enough to warrant a seat on the council. That is reserved for races with that much pull both militarily AND economically.


Ok, so make it Geth or Geth+Quarians.

Or the next game is 100s of years in the future, heh.

Well, at least it CAN happen. Maybe not right away. Up to Bioware.

Not sure there will even be a Council.

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NeroonWilliams wrote...

The Quarians will have to "be fruitful and multiply" for a couple hundred years before they are numerous enough to warrant a seat on the council. That is reserved for races with that much pull both militarily AND economically.


I don't think the economy and military of the Asari, Turians, humans or Salarians will look very good after a war that completely wiped out the entire infrastructure of their home planets, killed billions and decimated their fleets and armies. The Quarians will have a head start thanks to a nearly undamaged planet and large amounts of ancient Quarian and Geth technology and structures. With or without the Geth, the Quarians deserve a seat on the council and so do the other races that greatly contributed to the war effort. 

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So you guys are saying they wil unread be THE superpower?

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Based on how the other Council races treated the Quarians/Geth, I'd be surprised if they joined. They would also be way better off compaired to the other races due to the Geth and a planet that didn't see Reaper destruction. I could definatly see them treating the Council races like "oh hai u racist ppl I got stuff u dnt lolhahaha"

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 They've already confirmed that anyone relating to shep will not be in the next me. Ufortunately that probably means almost every character through mass effect 3

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The quarian population is simply too small to compete with the likes of the Asari, Turians or Salarians. Even with the pounding the other species took from the reapers the quarians can't compete with them. The council races still number in the billions...and the quarian fleet has the same population as the nation of the Netherlands. Thessia, Earth and Palavan will be rebuilt in 10-15 years, while the quarians need much more time to recover their numbers (and they certainly won't be able to maintain their fleet to it's former strength. People are going to want to actually live on Rannoch after all).

Modifié par Barquiel, 02 janvier 2014 - 06:48 .


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I have the feeling that the death of the lower-tier, killable NPC from Tali's optional recruitment mission in ME2 probably won't be a big deal later on.

Modifié par dreamgazer, 02 janvier 2014 - 07:49 .


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dreamgazer wrote...

I have the feeling that the death of the lower-tier, killable NPC from Tali's optional recruitment mission in ME2 probably won't be a big deal later on.


Don't use logic. 

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MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

I think his death was a matter of BW not putting him in the game for ****ty reasons.

It is what it is.



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It's interesting to consider that it is entirely possible for both races to be extinct (Geth victory on Rannoch, followed by Destroyer-Crucible) by the end of ME3.

As for Kal Reegar not being there, it could be due to any number of things. There was an interview with Jack's voice actor a while back where she shed a lot of light on why some characters don't come back. It usually isn't malicious intent or money-related, but just scheduling conflicts. Believe it or not, the guy who showed up in all of two missions in ME2 probably wasn't sitting by the phone for 2 years waiting to get called back at a moment's notice.

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MyChemicalBromance wrote...
 
Believe it or not, the guy who showed up in all of two missions in ME2 probably wasn't sitting by the phone for 2 years waiting to get called back at a moment's notice.


Except that it was reveal sometime back, at a convention iirc that his VA actually wanted to come back to voice Kal'Reegar but Bioware never called him

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MyChemicalBromance wrote...

Believe it or not, the guy who showed up in all of two missions in ME2 probably wasn't sitting by the phone for 2 years waiting to get called back at a moment's notice.


Of course he wouldn't. Reegar's played by Adam Baldwin. A pretty prolific actor.. he doesn't need the work for sure. He's just well liked. I think people just wanted him back again.

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StreetMagic wrote...

MyChemicalBromance wrote...

Believe it or not, the guy who showed up in all of two missions in ME2 probably wasn't sitting by the phone for 2 years waiting to get called back at a moment's notice.


Of course he wouldn't. Reegar's played by Adam Baldwin. A pretty prolific actor.. he doesn't need the work for sure. He's just well liked. I think people just wanted him back again.


Right, but it's also been brought up that he did want to come back. 

Anyway,  sure nobody from Shepard's story will be back, but it hasn't been confirmed that it ISNT a sequel, so it's possibly that some people from Shepard's story are mentioned, some of then were doing pretty revolutionary things, and if they are , it's either minor dialogue that you can actually import for, or an established canon, which I think that, if the game itself is good enough, everybody would get over quickly. 

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McFlurry598 wrote...

 They've already confirmed that anyone relating to shep will not be in the next me. Ufortunately that probably means almost every character through mass effect 3


"anyone relating to shep"

They never said that.

They were referring to the main story of the next game and Shepard himself.

And this is totally fine.

They said nothing about other characters. A character used as a reference does not have to relate to a new story. A Tali Councilor (throwing that out there, whatever), if she's not a clear part of the next game's story, is only a reference, not a relating element.

I'm not making predictions here though. Just be careful about their words because you better know that they are as well.