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[O_OotherSide]

One team specializes in killing mages, the other team is mages...

[AresKeith]

Can we have more topics that aren't mages and templars?

[TheKomandorShepard]

Yes if they want did realistic way that would look that war because templars have advantage
in almost every aspect so unless every mage turn into abomnation (and burn world) or blood mage mages should be done. On other side they might do that unrealistic way well it is game and well templars aren't very competent so well...

[leaguer of one]

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

Yes if they want did realistic way that would look that war because templars have advantage
in almost every aspect so unless every mage turn into abomnation (and burn world) or blood mage mages should be done. On other side they might do that unrealistic way well it is game and well templars aren't very competent so well...

No the don't.  If that were true Tevnter would of been taken down by the marches years ago. The templars have a big flaw, a dependency on Lyrium. Cut off their Lyrium and in a month the war would be over.

[Rotward]

Templars kidnap mages to indoctrinate, control, and monitor them for the rest of the mage's life. If the templars are THAT afraid of mages, I doubt the war will be one sided.

Modifié par Rotward, 01 janvier 2014 - 09:48 .

[KainD]

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

Yes if they want did realistic way that would look that war because templars have advantage
in almost every aspect so unless every mage turn into abomnation (and burn world) or blood mage mages should be done. On other side they might do that unrealistic way well it is game and well templars aren't very competent so well...

It's a mix. Templars are fightning normal mages + some that are blood mages + some random abominations + some random demons spawning from the fade + half of the templars are red templars so they don't work together. 
It's a big mess, not very organized.

[TheKomandorShepard]

leaguer of one wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

Yes if they want did realistic way that would look that war because templars have advantage
in almost every aspect so unless every mage turn into abomnation (and burn world) or blood mage mages should be done. On other side they might do that unrealistic way well it is game and well templars aren't very competent so well...

No the don't.  If that were true Tevnter would of been taken down by the marches years ago. The templars have a big flaw, a dependency on Lyrium. Cut off their Lyrium and in a month the war would be over.

Well not quite true mages aren't only forces that tevinter have and we go into blood magic territory and country that will use even most di**** means to defeat the enemy.

[Rotward]

What's the bleeped out word? I can't think of any curses that start with "di"

[Veruin]

Rotward wrote...

What's the bleeped out word? I can't think of any curses that start with "di"

I think dirtiest.

Obviously, not it.

Modifié par Veruin, 01 janvier 2014 - 10:00 .

[Fast Jimmy]

The real question is - the Templars are not a military force, more like a special forces group. And the Mages are a bunch of civilians with no combat training (by and large) who just happen to be able to shoot lightning out of their hands.

Compare that to the armies of nearly any other nation. What chance does this conflict really stand to do any major damage to Thedas? Ferelden could just march an army in and curb stomp either side.

[ziloe]

The fade is in the real world now, which gives the mages a better advantage regardless of their background.

[Fast Jimmy]

ziloe wrote...

The fade is in the real world now, which gives the mages a better advantage regardless of their background.

...or it could cause interference, making their magic weaker?

Speculations for everyone. 

[Ianamus]

ziloe wrote...

The fade is in the real world now, which gives the mages a better advantage regardless of their background.

It could also dramatically increase the risk of possesion, causing a large percentage of mages to become abominations. 

[HiroVoid]

Putting gameplay mechanics aside, I suspect this may have been part of the reason for separating the templars from the Chantry as well.

[vaire]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

The real question is - the Templars are not a military force, more like a special forces group. And the Mages are a bunch of civilians with no combat training (by and large) who just happen to be able to shoot lightning out of their hands.

Compare that to the armies of nearly any other nation. What chance does this conflict really stand to do any major damage to Thedas? Ferelden could just march an army in and curb stomp either side.

Actually for the conflict to have even the slightest impact on the world's situation the thing should have evolved into some kind of civil war, for the reason above mentioned. Thus you are extremely right, the conflict must have either escalated and attracted more fighters into itself, not unlikely since Thedas seems to be facing quite turbulent times, or it will be far from the "total war" many imagine. 

[HiroVoid]

vaire wrote...

Fast Jimmy wrote...

The real question is - the Templars are not a military force, more like a special forces group. And the Mages are a bunch of civilians with no combat training (by and large) who just happen to be able to shoot lightning out of their hands.

Compare that to the armies of nearly any other nation. What chance does this conflict really stand to do any major damage to Thedas? Ferelden could just march an army in and curb stomp either side.

Actually for the conflict to have even the slightest impact on the world's situation the thing should have evolved into some kind of civil war, for the reason above mentioned. Thus you are extremely right, the conflict must have either escalated and attracted more fighters into itself, not unlikely since Thedas seems to be facing quite turbulent times, or it will be far from the "total war" many imagine. 

I suspect its the latter.  In fact, I believe Gaider's alluded to such before when a mage supporter described the war in the same way.

[Eternal Phoenix]

O_OotherSide wrote...

One team specializes in killing mages, the other team is mages...

But your guy is a templar and you speak against them?

Well I thought it was obvious from DA2...

Many of the free-mages are power-hungry tyrants like the ones over at Tevinter and also blood mages. So it's hardly one sided. There needs to be a circle. Tevinter is hardly a good place to live...

Modifié par Elton John is dead, 01 janvier 2014 - 11:02 .

[Cainhurst Crow]

Mages, espeically if they get help from the imperium, will be difficult to attack. Especially if they begin using blood magic to their advantage. 

The templars have magic dampening techniques, training, armor, numbers, and generally support from the common man, while mages had pure power with knowledge in how to use said power and little else. 

I can see things getting stale mated pretty fast.

Modifié par Darth Brotarian, 01 janvier 2014 - 11:08 .

[Skorm777]

O_OotherSide wrote...

One team specializes in killing mages, the other team is mages...

Templars specifically choose to train in the profession, then endure years of training to become adept. Mages appear spontaneously, therefor we can assume there are way more mages than templars. 

There were enough templars to deal with the few mages that turned apostate, but I assume they are outnumbered now that the circles & apostates have combined forces. 

[Hellion Rex]

Skorm777 wrote...

O_OotherSide wrote...

One team specializes in killing mages, the other team is mages...

Templars specifically choose to train in the profession, then endure years of training to become adept. Mages appear spontaneously, therefor we can assume there are way more mages than templars. 

There were enough templars to deal with the few mages that turned apostate, but I assume they are outnumbered now that the circles & apostates have combined forces.

I wouldn't be too sure. We have no idea how many Templars there are, and we have no real logistics confirming how many mages there are in Thedas at the moment either.

[Veruin]

Skorm777 wrote...
Templars specifically choose to train in the profession, then endure years of training to become adept. Mages appear spontaneously, therefor we can assume there are way more mages than templars. 

There were enough templars to deal with the few mages that turned apostate, but I assume they are outnumbered now that the circles & apostates have combined forces. 

Yea, I'm pretty sure the birthrate for mages is probably 1/5000 or something. (Top of my head, basing it off potential country populations and those tower sizes."  There is no way those towers can house thousands of mages.  I'd say mages are minorities within minorities.

Modifié par Veruin, 01 janvier 2014 - 11:23 .

[Hellion Rex]

Veruin wrote...

Skorm777 wrote...
Templars specifically choose to train in the profession, then endure years of training to become adept. Mages appear spontaneously, therefor we can assume there are way more mages than templars. 

There were enough templars to deal with the few mages that turned apostate, but I assume they are outnumbered now that the circles & apostates have combined forces. 

Yea, I'm pretty sure the birthrate for mages is probably 1/5000 or something. (Top of my head, basing it off potential country populations and those tower sizes."  There is no way those towers can house thousands of mages.  I'd say mages are minorities within minorities.

My guess is probably 100 or more mages in a tower. Maybe a bigger Circle like the Gallows and the White Spire hold a couple hundred. And statistics wise, I would guess 1/500 is more accurate.

[HiroVoid]

I also assume there might be different factions. I doubt all templars would just want to abandon the Chantry, so we might still have some there. Not all apostates are going to suddenly come out of hiding to fight a war. There might be mages that have been making new pacts with the chantry or some organization to form a version of the circle that's controlled that the templars have decided is fine while other mages are still fighting whatever form of war they are.

[Angrywolves]

AresKeith wrote...

Can we have more topics that aren't mages and templars?

agreed.Too many of those.

and no it shouldn't be one sided always

.I don't find templar abilities that impressive.

But mages are weak physically, while templars are trained soldiers..


Usually it would be a party of templars hunting one alleged malificar or abomination/blood mage.

Still some templars can be killed or wounded as we saw with the one in the alienage.

But in DAI I suspect it will be groups of mages against groups of templars.

shrugs..
Some will win and some will lose.

[Cainhurst Crow]

I don't think mages would be able to replenish their ranks as easily as templars could, not unless they plan to send out children and babies to fight the templars and have a way of locating them at birth before the templars do.

This is also assuming all mages and all templars will follow the orders of their higher ups, I can predict a group of loyalist mages and thrask-esque templars banning together to form a new faction looking to restore the circles and resolve the issues peacefully.