Veruin wrote...
Isn't the whole point of templar abilities to dispell magic?
andy69156915 wrote...
Veruin wrote...
Isn't the whole point of templar abilities to dispell magic?
It is, but I'm pretty sure I've seen mages resist Templar powers before. Besides, just like most mages aren't that good, neither are Templars. Very few Templars in DA2 actually had the skill and abilities to drain your mana and shut off your sustained powers. I think most Templars are rather crappy at doing their anti-magic stuff.
I didn't say it would be easy for the Templars. All I said was that Adanu was wrong in claiming that Templars can only fight in close-quarters.andy69156915 wrote...
EmperorSahlertz wrote...
The Templar abilities had about as much range as the average mage spell. And mages still die if they get pierced by an arrow, no matter how much you favor them.
Won't work as easily as you think. Mages have magical shields and barriers that can and do protect them from arrows and swords (and other melee weapons), they can spawn very thick armor made of solid rock, they have magical healing that can literally heal broken bones in seconds. Not to say every mage knows how to do this stuff, if they did the mages at the end of DA2 would have put up a far better fight against the Templars... But the options are there if the mage wants to protect themselves.
You exact words were:Adanu wrote...
I never said they could only fight in close quarters. I said that they were so effective because they mainly fought on close quarters,especially during annulments.
Many of their advantages are negated in precisely this form of war. Might want to reread what I said.
Modifié par EmperorSahlertz, 02 janvier 2014 - 04:11 .
If we are going by game mechanics, then Templar abilities can in fact not be resisted.andy69156915 wrote...
By resist I mean having enough magic resist from stats and equipment to resist a magic attack (which Templar powers are classed as). Mages can resist mana clash, they can resist Templar powers.
Vit246 wrote...
OP, of course the Mage-Templar War should be one-sided.....against the Templars.
Because they cut themselves off from the Chantry. They cut themselves off from the lyrium supply source. There's no way they can acquire enough lyrium by themselves. And the apparent widespread use of Red Lyrium should already be crippling them.
No more lyrium = no more powers and sanity.
And yet, in both games so far, mages were by far the more effective combatants.O_OotherSide wrote...
One team specializes in killing mages, the other team is mages...
Modifié par Sylvius the Mad, 02 janvier 2014 - 04:19 .
Osena109 wrote...
Wrong i helped smuggle in ton of Lyirum form Orzammar Lyrium can be bought any were form the casteless
Adanu wrote...
They do only work in close quarters, as in effective. They can try fighting in long range, but they're going to get slaughtered.
Osena109 wrote...
Alot of mage abilitys need chanting as there spouting off at the mouth well place shots can kill them
Veruin wrote...
Osena109 wrote...
Wrong i helped smuggle in ton of Lyirum form Orzammar Lyrium can be bought any were form the casteless
So, one casteless = anywhere from the casteless.
Veruin wrote...
Osena109 wrote...
Alot of mage abilitys need chanting as there spouting off at the mouth well place shots can kill them
I'm pretty sure magic in DA is controlled by emotions and thought, going by the mage apprentices at the start on the mage origin. No chanting or words required.
Osena109 wrote...
Some of Morrigan and wynne's abiltys hade a cast time's so i took that as chanting
EmperorSahlertz wrote...
Wynne mentions that mispronounciation of cyllables while casting can lead to possession. So there certainly seems to be some auditory part to spell casting.
Modifié par Veruin, 02 janvier 2014 - 04:29 .
So what? The driving force is still the mages any way.EmperorSahlertz wrote...
The majority of the Tevinter army is still not mages.leaguer of one wrote...
Teventors strongests fighting force is made of spell swords. Mages who fight with swords. Sorry, but that tops templars.TheKomandorShepard wrote...
leaguer of one wrote...
No the don't. If that were true Tevnter would of been taken down by the marches years ago. The templars have a big flaw, a dependency on Lyrium. Cut off their Lyrium and in a month the war would be over.TheKomandorShepard wrote...
Yes if they want did realistic way that would look that war because templars have advantage
in almost every aspect so unless every mage turn into abomnation (and burn world) or blood mage mages should be done. On other side they might do that unrealistic way well it is game and well templars aren't very competent so well...
Well not quite true mages aren't only forces that tevinter have and we go into blood magic territory and country that will use even most di**** means to defeat the enemy.
EmperorSahlertz wrote...
Wynne mentions that mispronounciation of cyllables while casting can lead to possession. So there certainly seems to be some auditory part to spell casting.
in dragon age awakening the that mage form the blackmarsh cast spell with words she use's a dark spawns life force as base to power her spellVeruin wrote...
Osena109 wrote...
Some of Morrigan and wynne's abiltys hade a cast time's so i took that as chanting
When their spells are interrupted, they say something along the lines of "I cannot concentrate!"EmperorSahlertz wrote...
Wynne mentions that mispronounciation of cyllables while casting can lead to possession. So there certainly seems to be some auditory part to spell casting.
That I did not know.
They are the leaders perhaps, and at best the spearpoint of the army. The backbone of the army is still the masses of mundanes.leaguer of one wrote...
So what? The driving force is still the mages any way.
myahele wrote...
Whether they need to chant or merely concentrate I think its safe to assume that mages can't cast spells instantaneously. They need time to "charge" the spell.
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