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[thetinyevil]

It is entirely possible for Church to form around what Anders did if the mages win. Especially if the rumors about the Red Templars are true.

[Kleon]

Some interesting cult it would be.

Pray to Anders or he will blow up the chantry? Doesn't seem right...
Pray to Anders,he will blow up the closest chantry? Thats better, but...
Pray to Anders, he will summon Sir Pounce A Lot who will eat a priestess of the chantry? Swallow her whole, fart the Maker out and pounce to another priestess to swallow her whole and...

Modifié par Kunkryst, 04 janvier 2014 - 03:53 .

[The Elder King]

thetinyevil wrote...

It is entirely possible for Church to form around what Anders did if the mages win. Especially if the rumors about the Red Templars are true.

What rumours about the red templars are you referring to?
Beside, I don't see how the red templars would affect the formation of a cult around Anders. 

[AresKeith]

Fetunche wrote...

I hope Anders unique talents are required to close the fade tears and those that killed him in DA2 are doomed to fail.

Your funny lulz

[ames4u]

The overall reaction of the mages towards Anders' psychotic break is
not an overly positive one. They seemed to be trying to distance
themselves from his actions and I certainly do not blame them.

I wouldn't want to venerate a psychopath who cared nothing for
the lives of the defenseless. His actions guaranteed the culling of the very
people he claimed he was trying to save. I'd love to see that worked into his
Chant of Light.

There is the potential for him to be venerated, but quite a few mages certainly
didn't take kindly to his actions and are more likely to curse his name than praise it.
So I guess the answer is; maybe?

Modifié par ames4u, 04 janvier 2014 - 04:17 .

[Ianamus]

Fetunche wrote...

I hope Anders unique talents are required to close the fade tears and those that killed him in DA2 are doomed to fail.

What unique talents? Is he going to whine so much about the plight of the mages that the demons lose the will to live and leave Thedas voluntarily?

[ames4u]

hhh89 wrote...

thetinyevil wrote...

It is entirely possible for Church to form around what Anders did if the mages win. Especially if the rumors about the Red Templars are true.

What rumours about the red templars are you referring to?
Beside, I don't see how the red templars would affect the formation of a cult around Anders. 

I'd like to know what you mean too hhh89. What rumours exactly?

[The Elder King]

ames4u wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

thetinyevil wrote...

It is entirely possible for Church to form around what Anders did if the mages win. Especially if the rumors about the Red Templars are true.

What rumours about the red templars are you referring to?
Beside, I don't see how the red templars would affect the formation of a cult around Anders. 

I'd like to know what you mean too hhh89. What rumours exactly?

Are you asking me or thetinyevil?

[LobselVith8]

thetinyevil wrote...

It is entirely possible for Church to form around what Anders did if the mages win. Especially if the rumors about the Red Templars are true.

I suppose the Resolutions might hold him up as a heroic figure, depending on how far they think the war with the Chantry should go, but I'm certain there's as much dissent about Anders in Thedas as there is on BSN. I suppose a religion isn't impossible, given time. As for your last comment, are you suggesting the Red Templars will cause some people to vilify the Templar Order as a whole?

[thetinyevil]

hhh89 wrote...

thetinyevil wrote...

It is entirely possible for Church to form around what Anders did if the mages win. Especially if the rumors about the Red Templars are true.

What rumours about the red templars are you referring to?
Beside, I don't see how the red templars would affect the formation of a cult around Anders. 

The rumor that the Red Templars are one of the main bad guys in DA:I or that is what it sounded to me. As for why this would affect the cult of Anders because the Red Templars seem to be completely insane and are killing every one Mage and mundane alike. This would push mundane civilian and other wise toward the mages. And if Anders is held up on some kind of pedestal by the mages the mundane may adopt the same way of thinking. Though this is all guess work at best which is most likely wrong. Sorry if this is confusing it is almost 8 in the morning and I haven't slept yet and I'm writing this on an iPod.

[thetinyevil]

LobselVith8 wrote...

thetinyevil wrote...

It is entirely possible for Church to form around what Anders did if the mages win. Especially if the rumors about the Red Templars are true.

I suppose the Resolutions might hold him up as a heroic figure, depending on how far they think the war with the Chantry should go, but I'm certain there's as much dissent about Anders in Thedas as there is on BSN. I suppose a religion isn't impossible, given time. As for your last comment, are you suggesting the Red Templars will cause some people to vilify the Templar Order as a whole?

Yeah. The rumor I read made it sound like that was a possibility. But they were just rumors. 

[Silfren]

Somewhat seriously, Anders was a devoted Andrastian at one point, per his own words, and he indicates quite strongly that he continues to fervently believe in Andraste and the Maker, if not the Chantry: a fairly solid case of someone being an Andrastian but not a Chantrian.

I think it would be quite possible for, say, one end of his story to be that he became a religious leader of the day: not a prophet, at least not in his own eyes, but just a reformist country priest, leading something akin to a Great Awakening, teaching that the Andrastian faith was sound but that the Chantry had lost Her original message. A few centuries after his time, he could be seen by the current adherents of the faith as an actual prophet. Some sects might see him as practically divine himself, while others see him as "just" a human chosen by Andraste to spread her message.

[Nefla]

EJ107 wrote...

Fetunche wrote...

I hope Anders unique talents are required to close the fade tears and those that killed him in DA2 are doomed to fail.

What unique talents? Is he going to whine so much about the plight of the mages that the demons lose the will to live and leave Thedas voluntarily?

Well if I was a demon, I wouldn't want to hear his ****ing and moaning any more than I would as a person so hey, it might just work!

[lady_v23]

ames4u wrote...

The overall reaction of the mages towards Anders' psychotic break is
not an overly positive one. They seemed to be trying to distance
themselves from his actions and I certainly do not blame them.

I wouldn't want to venerate a psychopath who cared nothing for
the lives of the defenseless. His actions guaranteed the culling of the very
people he claimed he was trying to save. I'd love to see that worked into his
Chant of Light.

There is the potential for him to be venerated, but quite a few mages certainly
didn't take kindly to his actions and are more likely to curse his name than praise it.
So I guess the answer is; maybe?

+6

[Lotion Soronarr]

EJ107 wrote...

Fetunche wrote...

I hope Anders unique talents are required to close the fade tears and those that killed him in DA2 are doomed to fail.

What unique talents? Is he going to whine so much about the plight of the mages that the demons lose the will to live and leave Thedas voluntarily?

+1

[Lulupab]

EJ107 wrote...

Fetunche wrote...

I hope Anders unique talents are required to close the fade tears and those that killed him in DA2 are doomed to fail.

What unique talents? Is he going to whine so much about the plight of the mages that the demons lose the will to live and leave Thedas voluntarily?

I don't know, like turning Rolan along with dozens of Templars and full patrol of grey wardens into blood and bone with a single spell. Only Rolan survived the blast, barely, thanks to recently drinking a lot of lyrium. The story says Rolan was never afraid of a anything, he faced abominations and brood mothers alike but he was shaking when he faced Anders. Anders mockingly allowed Rolan to stab him with his sword and nothing happened which caused him to flee like a coward but aftter he turned back Anders grabbed Rolan's head from behind and ripped it off  with his bare hands.
(From Anders short story written by Jennifer Helper)

I suppose this is unique enough.

Modifié par Rassler, 04 janvier 2014 - 09:27 .

[AresKeith]

Rassler wrote...

EJ107 wrote...

Fetunche wrote...

I hope Anders unique talents are required to close the fade tears and those that killed him in DA2 are doomed to fail.

What unique talents? Is he going to whine so much about the plight of the mages that the demons lose the will to live and leave Thedas voluntarily?

I don't know, like turning Rolan along with dozens of Templars and full patrol of grey wardens into blood and bone with a single spell. Only Rolan survived the blast, barely, thanks to recently drinking a lot of lyrium. The story says Rolan was never afraid of a anything, he faced abominations and brood mothers alike but he was shaking when he faced Anders. Anders mockingly allowed Rolan to stab him with his sword and nothing happened which caused him to flee like a coward but aftter he turned back Anders grabbed Rolan's head from behind and ripped it off  with his bare hands.
(From Anders short story written by Jennifer Helper)

I suppose this is unique enough.

You mean that short story that basically reveals Anders to be in fact an abomination that needs to be killed?

[HiroVoid]

Rassler wrote...

EJ107 wrote...

Fetunche wrote...

I hope Anders unique talents are required to close the fade tears and those that killed him in DA2 are doomed to fail.

What unique talents? Is he going to whine so much about the plight of the mages that the demons lose the will to live and leave Thedas voluntarily?

I don't know, like turning Rolan along with dozens of Templars and full patrol of grey wardens into blood and bone with a single spell. Only Rolan survived the blast, barely, thanks to recently drinking a lot of lyrium. The story says Rolan was never afraid of a anything, he faced abominations and brood mothers alike but he was shaking when he faced Anders. Anders mockingly allowed Rolan to stab him with his sword and nothing happened which caused him to flee like a coward but aftter he turned back Anders grabbed Rolan's head from behind and ripped it off  with his bare hands.
(From Anders short story written by Jennifer Helper)

I suppose this is unique enough.

Murder knife > Templar Sword

[Lulupab]

AresKeith wrote...
You mean that short story that basically reveals Anders to be in fact an abomination that needs to be killed?

He has powers that only an Abomination can have but most of his ethics counters of being an abomination himself. An abomination does not heal people or think about freedom of others and is incapable of loving like Anders loves Hawke. An abomination wants to rule the world and kill everyone on sight and gain as much as power it can.

HiroVoid wrote...
Murder knife > Templar Sword

Actually Anders wants to die therefore he kinda deactivaes stab immunity. According to Jennifer helper he seeks Justice for himself as well after he killed innocents which can also be gained by attonment by freeing other mages. It means he is not a hypocrite. Its up to us to choose the Justice for him. We can also takes Justice into our hand and force him to kill mages.

Modifié par Rassler, 04 janvier 2014 - 10:19 .

[Hainkpe]

By Andraste's flaming knickers, I hope not.

I am anti-mage and anti-Templar. Both sides are idiots. I plan on killing and judging unbiasedly.

[LobselVith8]

AresKeith wrote...

You mean that short story that basically reveals Anders to be in fact an abomination that needs to be killed? 

The one where Anders was an invincible cannibal, where the templars acted like a mage never joined the Grey Wardens before, and where the Grey Wardens capitulated to the templars by letting a templar spy into their midst, even though the US Ending for the Magi Warden shows how ludicrous that is when Greagoir acquires to the ruler of Ferelden telling him that the Circle will be free?

While the possessed Sophia Dryden was able to close the tear in the Veil at Warden's Keep (so I don't think it's implausible for Anders to be useful), the short story had quite a few holes in it's plot.

[Hellion Rex]

LobselVith8 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

You mean that short story that basically reveals Anders to be in fact an abomination that needs to be killed? 

The one where Anders was an invincible cannibal, where the templars acted like a mage never joined the Grey Wardens before, and where the Grey Wardens capitulated to the templars by letting a templar spy into their midst, even though the US Ending for the Magi Warden shows how ludicrous that is when Greagoir acquires to the ruler of Ferelden telling him that the Circle will be free?

While the possessed Sophia Dryden was able to close the tear in the Veil at Warden's Keep (so I don't think it's implausible for Anders to be useful), the short story had quite a few holes in it's plot.

In Sophia's case though, she was dead and the demon was merely possessing her corpse, no?

[Master Warder Z_]

Honestly i am not pleased with many of the things Hawke was forced to do but putting down that terrorist was something i think that was done right.

That said.

Considering even Fiona was willing to admit Anders was a nutter and this is the woman who is leading the Mage rebellion against the chantry and templars...well probably no cults of mages going to spring up around him.

Its for the best, any one who uses places of religious worship as bombing sites really has no business being a saint.

[SlottsMachine]

What up Dragon Age board.

[TK514]

LobselVith8 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

You mean that short story that basically reveals Anders to be in fact an abomination that needs to be killed? 

The one where Anders was an invincible cannibal, where the templars acted like a mage never joined the Grey Wardens before, and where the Grey Wardens capitulated to the templars by letting a templar spy into their midst, even though the US Ending for the Magi Warden shows how ludicrous that is when Greagoir acquires to the ruler of Ferelden telling him that the Circle will be free?

While the possessed Sophia Dryden was able to close the tear in the Veil at Warden's Keep (so I don't think it's implausible for Anders to be useful), the short story had quite a few holes in it's plot.

I'd go so far as to say it was just plan awful.  If someone in authority were to say "never happened", I certainly wouldn't miss it.