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So who made the Fade tear?


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Grieving Natashina

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True. If the Warden hadn't shown up, we might have had a full scale Tear, to the point of shifting reality around it.  Well, reality was starting to warp, but it hadn't hit the levels of the Blackmarsh.

Side note: How long was the residents trapped in the Fade?  They were pretty vague in the game, other than long enough for the buildings to fall into ruin and the physical bodies of the villagers to turn to dust and bones.

Any theories about those pedestals possibly being a factor in Inquisition? They seem to be a powerful tool for focusing power in the Fade (such as with the Veil Tears as well as the location jumps in the Nightmare) and I could see use having to use them to shut down some of the tears in the future.  Do you think our Big Bad Bob/Barb would use it?  Or do you think that BBB would have a different means, ones that have been hinted at (if at all)?

Modifié par Starsyn, 20 janvier 2014 - 11:30 .


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Starsyn wrote...
Side note: How long was the residents trapped in the Fade?  They were pretty vague in the game, other than long enough for the buildings to fall into ruin and the physical bodies of the villagers to turn to dust and bones.

Any theories about those pedestals possibly being a factor in Inquisition? They seem to be a powerful tool for focusing power in the Fade (such as with the Veil Tears as well as the location jumps in the Nightmare) and I could see use having to use them to shut down some of the tears in the future.  Do you think our Big Bad Bob/Barb would use it?  Or do you think that BBB would have a different means, ones that have been hinted at (if at all)?

The Blackmarsh would have been cursed like that for at least several decades, as the Baroness ruled the area during Ferelden's occupation by Orlais. As for the pedestals, I am of the mind that since the original enormous Veil tear we see in the sky is so enormous, it is a sign of the Veil actually beginning to fall in its entirety, hence more and more little tears popping up in different places. As a result, I don't think they would need the pedestals to keep the Veil tears held open, because the Veil itself is falling. Yavanna mentioned a time "before the Veil, when dragons ruled the skies". Something had to have raised the Veil. I believe that it's possible that the BBB might be doing the reverse, dropping the Veil.

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Duct tape.,

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I farted... sorry.

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Probably some new antagonist we haven't seen before.

I'd hazard the notion the antagonist has been operating behind the scenes for a long time, orchestrating things just right for the veil tear. Making it so just about every organised faction in Thedas is fractured and fighting each other. (Chantry, mages, Templars, city elf rebellion ect.) I'd go so far to say this individual has been subtly involved in the Warden's quests and Hawke's. Perhaps manipulating the latter behind the scenes as well.

And, given BioWare's history with Revan and the Exile, I would guess that this individual has captured both of them, hence why they have disappeared. And is probably torturing both of them in ways we could barely imagine. I hope I'm wrong about my theory about their fate though, I'd much rather find 'em chilling out on a beach somewhere. ;)

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The Inquisitor

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Boy, that would be a nice twist. Perhaps the whole game revolves around the fact that we caused the Tear (nobody knows yet, we keep it secret), by accident, and we're trying to repair the damage to the world we ourselves have caused.

Sad and heavy guilt wears upon our heart, that drives our sense of purpose. The whole time we're worried that while we're trying to fix the problem, some of our followers or other people will find out we were the cause.

Don't know why, but this makes me think of Gaius Baltar (the remake). 

Modifié par CybAnt1, 23 janvier 2014 - 04:14 .


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Anders.....and Flemeth.

I think Flemeth is the only one who benefits from such a thing, Morrigan herself says in Witch Hunt that change is coming to the world and she suspects Flemeth is behind it.

However, I do not think she could do it alone. I think the unique way that Justice and Anders combined, one from the Fade, one from Thedas, made it possible for them to combine powers to tear the veil asunder. All they needed was the right motivation. Anders hates Templars, a spirit of Justice would also feel outraged over how the mages are treated.

If only Flemeth could use that somehow, sya by getting a certain idol in the hands of certain Knight Captain, knowing full well what it would do to her. Given her feelings about mages it is obvious what she would do when it started corrupting her. Then just wait until she does something that makes Anders/Justice so outraged and voila. Anders destroys the chantry, and in the process, the veil is torn.

Assuming I am right that might put a different light on the interrogation of Varic, that is of course, if Cassandra was a part of the Inquisition at the time. If so, her interrogation of Varic might be to find out how the veil was torn. They knew the rebellion started in Kirkwall. Assuming I am right about how the veil was torn, they would also know that the veil was initially torn in Kirkwall. They assume the two are connected, and that Varric knows how, even if he doesn't think he does.

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Am still saying it is Cole, or maybe a corrupt spirit from within the Fade itself.

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I still suspect that it is the spirit that possessed Wyyne. It lives on in her animated undead magical bosom. Final boss battle will be against a pair old lady ******.

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Mistress9Nine wrote...

I still suspect that it is the spirit that possessed Wyyne. It lives on in her animated undead magical bosom. Final boss battle will be against a pair old lady ******.


Except the spirit is in Evangeline...

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The spirit clearly fractured. Wynne was toats mad the she had to die, so the spirit transformed much like Justice/Vengence, and she gave the nice healing part to Evangeline and the mad part stayed in her boobies.

Modifié par Mistress9Nine, 24 janvier 2014 - 11:05 .


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otis0310 wrote...

Anders.....and Flemeth.

I think Flemeth is the only one who benefits from such a thing, Morrigan herself says in Witch Hunt that change is coming to the world and she suspects Flemeth is behind it.

However, I do not think she could do it alone. I think the unique way that Justice and Anders combined, one from the Fade, one from Thedas, made it possible for them to combine powers to tear the veil asunder. All they needed was the right motivation. Anders hates Templars, a spirit of Justice would also feel outraged over how the mages are treated.

If only Flemeth could use that somehow, sya by getting a certain idol in the hands of certain Knight Captain, knowing full well what it would do to her. Given her feelings about mages it is obvious what she would do when it started corrupting her. Then just wait until she does something that makes Anders/Justice so outraged and voila. Anders destroys the chantry, and in the process, the veil is torn.

Assuming I am right that might put a different light on the interrogation of Varic, that is of course, if Cassandra was a part of the Inquisition at the time. If so, her interrogation of Varic might be to find out how the veil was torn. They knew the rebellion started in Kirkwall. Assuming I am right about how the veil was torn, they would also know that the veil was initially torn in Kirkwall. They assume the two are connected, and that Varric knows how, even if he doesn't think he does.


I don't think Flemeth planed it out that far ahead considering her reaction to Hawke and party at the time, it was more of a sper of the moment thing. Thats what she said "Is it fate or chance"  I get the feeling that in reality all she wanted was for Hawke to get it to the Freemarches the fact that he went though with the delivery surprized her.

From what she said, it seems like yes she did see how his life was going to effect things, but to what ends no onw knows really. well expect Gaider.

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Global warming? Has anyone mentioned global warming? The whole game is a social commentary on climate change.

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It's Global Warming, Al Gore says our Fade is tearing as well.

Joke-stealing douche-nozzle.

Modifié par Zazzerka, 24 janvier 2014 - 12:45 .


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Has anyone made a fabric softener joke yet?

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Qistina wrote...

I think no one cause the Veil tear, it is just an effect of every situation that lead to it. But of course anyone could benefit from that. Meaning no one intentionally open up the sky but everyone take an opportunity when it happen


No they've already confirmed that the antagonist intentionally tore the veil open, they did it for a specific reason and this person is behind all the chaos going on in Thedas and have stated this numerous times, on various sources.

In the wake of that breach opening up, with all of the nations of of the south and the major organizations-the church-the Templars-The mages-all being rendered somewhat impotent by their infighting, it starts to emerge that there is a suspicious level of chaos in anticipation of this event.

Who could orchestrate such a plan? What purpose does it serve? Why did it succeed? 

Mike Laidlaw 

Here's another excerpt

Another mystery is who the inquisitor is fighting against, the demons pouring out of the sky are an obvious threat but you learn ealry on that a single mastermind is behind the breach and all of the choas surrounding it.

Unlike the situation with Loghain, however you don't learn the identity of your target immediately in inquisition, all players know is that they have an [b] single adversar- an equal - working in opposition to their efforts, and part of the story involves getting to the bottom of the schemes and unmasking your foe.

They also stated in many other places like the gamescom dev diary where they literally said the villan who created the veil tear, and this isn't news it's something that's known or at least had been around since September of last year though it seems people think otherwise.

The antagonist doing whater he/she does to purposely tear the veil open will start the game off, whomever this person is has been plotting this for awhile on our end meaning they are from Thedas and the tear originated from this side of the veil.

Modifié par Spectre slayer, 24 janvier 2014 - 04:36 .