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[The Spirit of Dance]

Well... we always have Flemeth and according to Gaider's post that's probably the closest we're going to get.

[Bfler]

 A sophisticated dragon, who is able to talk and sing.

Modifié par Bfler, 04 janvier 2014 - 03:49 .

[nightcobra]

nyanyagul wrote...

then what about yavana?

Yavana, the Dragon whisperer

[Mr.House]

I prefer that dragons are animals, smart animals but still animals. The old gods are the only exception(even then, their "talking" might have in fact been mind talking, not physical speech. Anyways I'm happy this is staying the way.

[Ziegrif]

Y'know.

The first that came to mind when I saw the Archdemon way back when.

Let's ride that.

Unfortunately Riordan only managed to do it.

Personally I'd like for Dragons to be smart talkers who know high level spells and basically fight like some cheap bastards. There's no reason in the history of ever a Dragon would ever land like in Skyrim. They'd just circle strafe the party and spam breath weapons.

Modifié par Ziegrif, 03 janvier 2014 - 05:34 .

[nightcobra]

Mr.House wrote...

I prefer that dragons are animals, smart animals but still animals. The old gods are the only exception(even then, their "talking" might have in fact been mind talking, not physical speech. Anyways I'm happy this is staying the way.

and even then we know the old gods can shapeshift because that's what it does to a darkspawn body should it ever die at the hands of a non-warden. so really we don't know what the old gods really are, just that one of their forms is of a dragon.

[Kikidori]

Must all darkspawn be monsters? This was the case in DA:O

But wasn't in Awakening! It's very possible!

[Mirrman70]

I would just like to point out to all the posts about old gods being dragons is that they are referred to as dragon-gods not just dragons and that sten at one point said that the old gods were like to dragons as the first kings were to common men. Also all the Old Gods are male whereas High Dragons can only be female.

[nyanyagul]

now that i think about it... maybe the architect was one of those ancient tiventer mages...

by the way has nobody asked the developers what type of dragons are they creating? 

Modifié par nyanyagul, 03 janvier 2014 - 06:40 .

[JoltDealer]

Some creatures can be calmed with words. Yavana spoke to a high dragon and was able to soothe it by doing so. If the dragon spoke back, then maybe we'd be dealing with something more than just a walking and flying force of nature. Admittedly, there is much that is ambiguous about high dragons, Old Gods, archdemons, and the ancient tongue Yavana spoke. However, nothing has implied or shown that dragons are capable of speech.

[Veruin]

Mr.House wrote...

I prefer that dragons are animals, smart animals but still animals. The old gods are the only exception(even then, their "talking" might have in fact been mind talking, not physical speech. Anyways I'm happy this is staying the way.

[Medhia Nox]

Since Mr. Gaider seems to be using the real world definition of "animal".

I know a bearskarn isn't "technically" an animal... and Mouse wasn't "technically" an animal...

But dragons aren't "technically" animals either...

And humans are "technically" animals...

All relying, of course, on the new invented definition of "animal" on Thedas.

It would perhaps be best to make no such proclamations.

Dragons won't talk - end of story.

Modifié par Medhia Nox, 03 janvier 2014 - 07:25 .

[Fredward]

David Gaider wrote...
No talking animals. This is one of the underlying rules for the Dragon Age universe, and it includes dragons. Closest we've come to breaking that rule is the desire demon illusion in the Shale adventure (which was technically a talking cat), but it's never going to be a thing otherwise.

So, yes, all dragons must be monsters.

Just how smart are dragons anyway? Like normal animal level or Mabari level? They don't seem to understand human speech. And I'd assume the Old Gods are a breed apart since they have at the very least a rudimentary grasp on military tactics. Unless someone's controlling them... hmmm...

[nyanyagul]

talking beasts no, in a game  where talking trees are fine... i have no prob with dragons not being able to speak and i dont have problems if guys are saying that before mature dragon or before high dragons their intelligence are not much superior then a beast... but cmon i cant see how those high dragons have the same intelligence or lower then a mabari...

Modifié par nyanyagul, 03 janvier 2014 - 11:47 .

[Chrom72]

nyanyagul wrote...

talking beasts no, in a game  where talking trees are fine... i have no prob with dragons not being able to speak and i dont have problems if guys are saying that before mature dragon or before high dragons their intelligence are not much superior then a beast... but cmon i cant see how those high dragons have the same intelligence or lower then a mabari...

To be fair the talking tree was a spirit trapped in a tree. I'd say the High Dragons are probably a bit smarter than a mabari, but not quite human intelligence. I like the apex predator description people are throwing around. The Old Gods on the other hand seem to be something else entirely. We have yet to see one pre-corruption though, so perhaps they aren't dragons at all, like others on here have said. The example of them being able to shapeshift a darkspawn body into their dragon form lends some credibility to that theory.

[myahele]

I guess they're monsters in that they're instinct is a threat to people and must be killed for self protection.

They are probably smarter than all the other animals in thedas though.

A shame because I was hoping they had some type of telepathy

[The 13th Dark Sheep]

Assuming the dragons could talk, what would they tell us anyway?

Probably little of interest I'd say.. It's not like they really participate in the Thedosian society in any way.

[nyanyagul]

i dont think the old archdemon/old are exaclty shapeshifter, if you read it, what happens is the spirit of the archedemon when slain travels to adarkspawn and that darkspawn becomes the new archdemon,
" its spirit drawn to possess the nearest tainted creature. The darkspawn were mindless, soulless, empty shells of flesh that could be bent and remade in the dragon's image. " so they dont exactly shapeshift at will like flemeth more like when he travels in to the new vessel that vessel adapts to his soul and "mutate" into the original shape of the archdemon... just like when a demon posses a human body his true shape and form shange into that grotesc abomination.... of course demons can shapeshift to hide their true nature but, i think thats how it works for the archdemon as well except that they cant hide into a normal darkspawn shape...

[Orian Tabris]

Yes. They must all be dragons.

See this:

PsychoBlonde wrote...

Yeah, in Dragon Age the actual dragons can't talk--they are smart for animals, but still just animals. So this request is along the lines of going to Africa and saying "Why are all the lions dangerous? Can't I have a chat with them?" They're animals. They don't chat. They will, however, happily try to eat you if you let your guard down.

Lions will try to eat you, whether you let your guard down or not. You said it yourself, "they're animals." Sure, we are animals too, but of a far more intelligent variety.

[Fredward]

The 13th Dark Sheep wrote...
Assuming the dragons could talk, what would they tell us anyway?

Probably little of interest I'd say.. It's not like they really participate in the Thedosian society in any way.

"You'll taste good with some paprika." "I'll name my burps after you." "The Reapers are coming." "Hi, my name is Billy."

The possibilities are endless.

[Orian Tabris]

Foopydoopydoo wrote...

The 13th Dark Sheep wrote...
Assuming the dragons could talk, what would they tell us anyway?

Probably little of interest I'd say.. It's not like they really participate in the Thedosian society in any way.

"You'll taste good with some paprika." "I'll name my burps after you." "The Reapers are coming." "Hi, my name is Billy."

The possibilities are endless.

Indeed.

7.5/10

You lost 2.5 for that ME reference.

[Orian Tabris]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

No talking animals.

In a series in which werewolves play a large role.

._.

Hanar, werewolves are usually ABLE to talk. You see, NORMALLY, werewolves are humans who have been bitten by another werewolf, or a regular wolf, then becomes one themselves (usually at midnight).

Your argument is invalid.

[Fredward]

Orian Tabris wrote...
Indeed.

7.5/10

You lost 2.5 for that ME reference.

You're rigth. I should've said Rea(v)ers and snickered because punny. Damn you sleep muddled mind!

[SilkieBantam]

BrotherDragon2 wrote...

I would like to see some dragons as allies or at least be able to converse with them as part of the storyline.
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