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David Gaider wrote...

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I would like to see some dragons as allies or at least be able to converse with them as part of the storyline.


No talking animals. This is one of the underlying rules for the Dragon Age universe, and it includes dragons. Closest we've come to breaking that rule is the desire demon illusion in the Shale adventure (which was technically a talking cat), but it's never going to be a thing otherwise.

So, yes, all dragons must be monsters.

Mouse also. :)

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This confuses, tho. I know not all dragons are Old Gods, but aren't the Old Gods dragons? I'd hardly say they're just animals. Or, rather, just monsters.

It seems more complicated than that.

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rapscallioness wrote...
This confuses, tho. I know not all dragons are Old Gods, but aren't the Old Gods dragons? I'd hardly say they're just animals. Or, rather, just monsters.

It seems more complicated than that.

It is theoretically possible that they're just animals revered as gods, except that some evidence indicates otherwise. For instance, if the archdemons are indeed the Old Gods, then they are intelligent and can speak to the darkspawn.

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The Old Gods could have always just assumed the form of a dragon while in the world of the living. They'd look for the creatures that impose the most awe in mortals, and that was the dragons.

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I don't consider dragons as animals, because there are no animal called dragon...oh well we have "Komodo Dragon" but that just a name, not a dragon. So dragons must can speak, they are mythical being not categorize as animals.

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Ieldra2 wrote...

rapscallioness wrote...
This confuses, tho. I know not all dragons are Old Gods, but aren't the Old Gods dragons? I'd hardly say they're just animals. Or, rather, just monsters.

It seems more complicated than that.

It is theoretically possible that they're just animals revered as gods, except that some evidence indicates otherwise. For instance, if the archdemons are indeed the Old Gods, then they are intelligent and can speak to the darkspawn.

They don't communicate verbally with the Darkspawn though.

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Qistina wrote...

I don't consider dragons as animals, because there are no animal called dragon...oh well we have "Komodo Dragon" but that just a name, not a dragon. So dragons must can speak, they are mythical being not categorize as animals.


Dragon Age is a fictional universe. In that fiction universe, Dragons exist. Those Dragons are animals. I believe it's stated that they have the intelligence similar to that of a Dolphin. There's absolutely no requirement for Dragons to talk.

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It is boring if just humanoid can talk...if something else can talk it is refreshing.

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Qistina wrote...

It is boring if just humanoid can talk...if something else can talk it is refreshing.

Demons and spirits can talk.

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Qistina wrote...

It is boring if just humanoid can talk...if something else can talk it is refreshing.


I fail to see how talking animals is refreshing in a fantasy game.

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Mouse also. :) 


Mouse was a demon.  Not an animal.

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Qistina wrote...

It is boring if just humanoid can talk...if something else can talk it is refreshing.


Plenty of other fantasy franchises offer talking animals. Dragon Age certainly doesn't need to be one of them.

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so, can i have one as a pet? :)

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David Gaider wrote...

BrotherDragon2 wrote...
I would like to see some dragons as allies or at least be able to converse with them as part of the storyline.


No talking animals. This is one of the underlying rules for the Dragon Age universe, and it includes dragons. Closest we've come to breaking that rule is the desire demon illusion in the Shale adventure (which was technically a talking cat), but it's never going to be a thing otherwise.

So, yes, all dragons must be monsters.



Can't at least ride on one some time in the future? That would be cool.

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Cyberstrike nTo wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

BrotherDragon2 wrote...
I would like to see some dragons as allies or at least be able to converse with them as part of the storyline.


No talking animals. This is one of the underlying rules for the Dragon Age universe, and it includes dragons. Closest we've come to breaking that rule is the desire demon illusion in the Shale adventure (which was technically a talking cat), but it's never going to be a thing otherwise.

So, yes, all dragons must be monsters.



Can't at least ride on one some time in the future? That would be cool.


someone might be able to, whether it is a npc or the player himself/herself....that we don't know
there might be, there might not be

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hhh89 wrote...
Demons and spirits can talk.


Demons and spirits are humanoid. All who can talk in DA are humanoid....talking tree, werewolves, demons, darkspawn. It is like there is a law saying that only "human" can talk or "if you want to talk you must be human-like"

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I fail to see how talking animals is refreshing in a fantasy game.


Because you lack imagination...in real world animal can't talk, so why in fantasy world they can't talk too?

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The Old Gods are Dragons... And more, it's that simple

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Dragons communicate, we just don't understand them. It's a safe bet that "Deafening Screech" can be translated as "Tasty morsels sighted." though.

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Just what Dragon Age needs.. .talking dragon....:(

This what happens when you watch too much Dragonheart and Eragon. Thankfully I religiously watch Reign of Fire :)

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Deebo305 wrote...

Just what Dragon Age needs.. .talking dragon....:(

This what happens when you watch too much Dragonheart and Eragon. Thankfully I religiously watch Reign of Fire :)

Thankfully, I don't even know what that is, because it sounds crap.

Dragons are animals, thus, they don't speak (our tongue). Enough said.

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Qistina wrote...

Because you lack imagination...in real world animal can't talk, so why in fantasy world they can't talk too?


Well, coming from the person who talks about weretigers and ****...ya got me there.  But just because they can talk in fantasy...doesn't mean they should.

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David Gaider wrote...

BrotherDragon2 wrote...
I would like to see some dragons as allies or at least be able to converse with them as part of the storyline.


No talking animals. This is one of the underlying rules for the Dragon Age universe, and it includes dragons. Closest we've come to breaking that rule is the desire demon illusion in the Shale adventure (which was technically a talking cat), but it's never going to be a thing otherwise.

So, yes, all dragons must be monsters.


But does their monstrous, non-speaking nature mean they can't be allies? Maybe tame dragons that can understand human speech? (There's precedent for that in Haven, or at least that's what it looked like while Kolgrim's talking down... I guess I'll call her Andraste for lack of a better name.)

Also, @Quistina: There's so much fiction that abides by that I actually found Bioware's Thedasian Non-Speaking Dragons to be a breath of fresh air.

Modifié par Riverdaleswhiteflash, 07 janvier 2014 - 04:33 .


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hey dragonhert was coolImage IPB

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Do dragons "speak"?

Possibly; even limited to animal "language" they could certainly have a complex amount of symbolism and what have you associated with different kinds of roars or something.

I mean if bee's can communicate with interpretive dance why can't dragons have a language.

Modifié par Dayze, 08 janvier 2014 - 07:48 .


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David Gaider wrote...

No talking animals. This is one of the underlying rules for the Dragon Age universe, and it includes dragons. Closest we've come to breaking that rule is the desire demon illusion in the Shale adventure (which was technically a talking cat), but it's never going to be a thing otherwise.

So, yes, all dragons must be monsters.



She had to be the most lied-to cat in existance. If you were to get all the people who collectively lied to that particular cat together in a single space, you'd need something around the size of the Isle of Man to hold them all.

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David Gaider wrote...

BrotherDragon2 wrote...
I would like to see some dragons as allies or at least be able to converse with them as part of the storyline.


No talking animals. This is one of the underlying rules for the Dragon Age universe, and it includes dragons. Closest we've come to breaking that rule is the desire demon illusion in the Shale adventure (which was technically a talking cat), but it's never going to be a thing otherwise.

So, yes, all dragons must be monsters.


Oh, was that an illusion? Thought she had possessed an actual cat.