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[Jaronking]

In the video I remember them saying that earlier in the game u made a agreement with the villagers to build a keep near their village or something between those lines but am pretty sure u can have more then 1 keep in a area you just have to find it so if I have two then I will try and save both but if I can only save 1 ill save the village if I have another keep in the area or I can just have my second keep reinforce the 1 one under attack

[Kov]

If this kind of situation arises with my Inquisitor, it'll probably be the keep I save. With my Cousland, I felt the keep was secure enough to risk going to the village, but if the situation is really one thing or the other, I'll head right back to the keep. Me and my men will be protecting all of Thedas, that's more important than a single city/village.

[lady_v23]

Varric gets mad at you if you don't save the village, I wonder if we can have the option to tell him to stuff it.

[Master Warder Z_]

lady_v23 wrote...

Varric gets mad at you if you don't save the village, I wonder if we can have the option to tell him to stuff it.

I would threaten to shave off his chest hair if he didn't stop whining.

[lady_v23]

Master Warder Z wrote...

lady_v23 wrote...

Varric gets mad at you if you don't save the village, I wonder if we can have the option to tell him to stuff it.

I would threaten to shave off his chest hair if he didn't stop whining.

+5

I'm the inquisitor, and If I want to burn 15 villages I will!

[Master Warder Z_]

MasterScribe wrote...

lady_v23 wrote...

Varric gets mad at you if you don't save the village, I wonder if we can have the option to tell him to stuff it.

I wonder if we can permanently dismiss him, so I can complete my goals unhindered by dissent. 

Public Flogging, Executions and good old fashion heads on a pike should solve that nicely.

Ah...Having the authority to execute people for disagreeing with you, No wonder dictators get addicted to power 

[lady_v23]

Master Warder Z wrote...

MasterScribe wrote...

lady_v23 wrote...

Varric gets mad at you if you don't save the village, I wonder if we can have the option to tell him to stuff it.

I wonder if we can permanently dismiss him, so I can complete my goals unhindered by dissent. 

Public Flogging, Executions and good old fashion heads on a pike should solve that nicely.

Ah...Having the authority to execute people for disagreeing with you, No wonder dictators get addicted to power 

don't forget stealing from the poor.

[Master Warder Z_]

lady_v23 wrote...

Master Warder Z wrote...

MasterScribe wrote...

lady_v23 wrote...

Varric gets mad at you if you don't save the village, I wonder if we can have the option to tell him to stuff it.

I wonder if we can permanently dismiss him, so I can complete my goals unhindered by dissent. 

Public Flogging, Executions and good old fashion heads on a pike should solve that nicely.

Ah...Having the authority to execute people for disagreeing with you, No wonder dictators get addicted to power 

don't forget stealing from the poor.

Forcing them into servitude to work for your cause seems better then stealing their meager possessions in my eye.

After all a peasant is a peasant.

They have little worth taxing them heavily to begin with besides their bodies after all.

 

[Master Warder Z_]

MasterScribe wrote...

I need the peasants for my pseudo-communist revolution. 

Don't you mean Stalinist or Maoist?

Communism is an intangible concept after all.

Its authoritarian counterparts however are quite feasible.

[lady_v23]

Master Warder Z wrote...

lady_v23 wrote...

Master Warder Z wrote...

MasterScribe wrote...

lady_v23 wrote...

Varric gets mad at you if you don't save the village, I wonder if we can have the option to tell him to stuff it.

I wonder if we can permanently dismiss him, so I can complete my goals unhindered by dissent. 

Public Flogging, Executions and good old fashion heads on a pike should solve that nicely.

Ah...Having the authority to execute people for disagreeing with you, No wonder dictators get addicted to power 

don't forget stealing from the poor.

Forcing them into servitude to work for your cause seems better then stealing their meager possessions in my eye.

After all a peasant is a peasant.

They have little worth taxing them heavily to begin with besides their bodies after all.

 

this is why villains have more fun.

[Master Warder Z_]

lady_v23 wrote...

Master Warder Z wrote...

lady_v23 wrote...

Master Warder Z wrote...

MasterScribe wrote...

lady_v23 wrote...

Varric gets mad at you if you don't save the village, I wonder if we can have the option to tell him to stuff it.

I wonder if we can permanently dismiss him, so I can complete my goals unhindered by dissent. 

Public Flogging, Executions and good old fashion heads on a pike should solve that nicely.

Ah...Having the authority to execute people for disagreeing with you, No wonder dictators get addicted to power 

don't forget stealing from the poor.

Forcing them into servitude to work for your cause seems better then stealing their meager possessions in my eye.

After all a peasant is a peasant.

They have little worth taxing them heavily to begin with besides their bodies after all.

 

this is why villains have more fun.

I do model my PC often after various antagonists i am fond of i suppose...i like a Pragmatic protagonist mainly doing whatever he is doing for personal benifit or very self serving reasons to begin with.

My favorite has to be Devound Cousland who preserved the anvil the void, slaughtered the heathen elves, killed the mages, Kicked the Dragon Blood into the ashes and of course basically murder knifed the world to death.

He was out to save the world and milk it for all its worth.

I am going to make my inquistor...more globally focused i think.

*steeples hands together* 

There will be a new Human Centeralized world order within Thedas very soon.

After all, if you are gathering the military might of the entire continent...Why not use it to combat the very insitution that founded it? 

[Master Warder Z_]

MasterScribe wrote...

Master Warder Z wrote...

MasterScribe wrote...

I need the peasants for my pseudo-communist revolution. 

Don't you mean Stalinist or Maoist?

Communism is an intangible concept after all.

Its authoritarian counterparts however are quite feasible.

"Pseudo-" means "false."

The revolution won't really be communistic in nature. It's all just rhetoric to gain support.

In other words, it's all a ploy. 

I am aware of the defintion but i was leaning towards people realizing that concepts of utopia in the land of thedas would be a bit...too much enough for their unwashed masses.

I doubt even they are that gullible.

[Ninja Mage]

I'd like to see a scenario where the reverse happens in game. Like if you choose save the keep the keep is destroyed and if you choose save the village, the village gets destroyed. Won't make everything so A and B.

[Master Warder Z_]

Ninja Mage wrote...

I'd like to see a scenario where the reverse happens in game. Like if you choose save the keep the keep is destroyed and if you choose save the village, the village gets destroyed. Won't make everything so A and B.

How exactly would that work?

Commiting the majority of the party and military assets sort of assures that the attack that location would fail no?

[Ninja Mage]

It could be like a sabotage mission and someone on your team is a traitor. Just making the choices more diverse

[KainD]

wiccame wrote...
Why?  Save the village, have hundred or so allies more, to provide resourses, extra men and more support to gain support from other places.  Like I said before, if we can take the keep once, we can do it again....and if my men are trained well enough, losses will be minimal.
You're in a powerful position, protecting those under you is th moral choice, lives over material. I wouldn't want to think of all the children I will be leaving to die. No matter how 'practical' it would be or not be.

The bold is rational thinking, the Italic is self-distructive thinking. Interesting how you defend your point with two unrelated paragraphs. 

[dancarrero]

A keep is a strategic stronghold.It should be able to withstand a siege for a reasonable amount of time,usually enough to allow for reinforcements to break the siege.A village is a small population center with very little strategic value.What do you want to do?If you want to consolidate power within a region you'll save the keep.If you want to be popular with the populace you'll defend the village.If the scenario is designed realistically saving the keep will have more value.

[Fredward]

Both, obviously. Didn't whoeverwastalking imply that you could send your men to the keep and then charge off to save the village anyway thereby earning +15 Hero Points? I hate that kinda setup. Why WOULDN'T you save both? But assuming it wasn't I'd almost always go for the Keep. Lets get real here, saving the village is nice and warm and fuzzy and whatever but you'd lose your base of operations, all the men stationed there, all the resources. It's the prototypical sacrifice the few to enable yourself to save the many scenario. Unless there was something remarkable about the village it will almost certainly burn.

Except that it won't because I'll wind up saving both. HEROISM.

Modifié par Foopydoopydoo, 04 janvier 2014 - 05:27 .

[kjdhgfiliuhwe]

Boy, what I would give for a story-driven AAA game that let you play a truly 'evil' protagonist, without any of those redeeming qualities or 'he/she did it for the greater good' puff bits to offset the atrocities you commit. I always find the 'bad' choices in story-driven games rather laughable, as you're still trying to save the big picture day.

Imagine a Dragon Age game where there was a possible rich narrative you could follow, if you so chose, where instead of trying to save the day, your character just wanted to bring everything crashing down. For giggles/<insert sociopathic reasons>, and sans any sad back story of being abused as a child, not given enough hugs, etc.

[Cylan Cooper]

Simple, send soldiers to the keep and go rescue the village, or vice-versa. If doing that is very hard, I wish they'd demonstrated this in the demo rather than just trekking to the Keep. Show the Inquisitor and company getting overrun by a crapton of enemies, let us know we're in for a truly epic fight that we just might not survive if we choose to go in alone without soldier backup.

[Raging_Pulse]

I know that I'm always, instinctively, going to try to "have it both ways" whenever the game presents me with opportunity like this one. Otherwise, I would feel like I'm missing content.