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[The Devlish Redhead]

What other fictional races can we put up against the Reapers both on the ground and in space?

I just wondered how PSP's (point singularity projectors) would work against them since they are essentially black hole bullets.

The Magog worldship uses these..... And with the Abyss onboard it can even withstand Nova bombs.  One Nova bomb can blow up an entire solar system. So Hmmmmm against Reapers I don't know but I'd love to see that battle.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Put the Time Lords against them.

Hell just the Doctor.

He'd fix your Reaper problem really quick.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

StreetMagic wrote...

The Reapers are a ridiculous deprotagonizing force the likes of which has never been seen. Not even other galaxy destroying villains stand a chance. Like Galactus from Marvel comics. Or even Satan himself. lol

They're basically the creation of a little kid who says his dad can beat up your dad - and whatever reason you give to counter him, he changes the game and ups the ante. If your dad is 50 feet tall. Then he says "Uh uh! My dad is 51 feet tall." And so on and so forth. Nothing you come up with is better - because he always gets the last word.

The Doctor beat Satan too. His companion Jack killed Satan's son.

The Reapers got nothing on Daleks or Time Lords. Type IV Civilizations they are (Time Lords might even qualify as Type V). 

Masters of time and space and everything in between. And capable of traveling between universes and dimensions.

As I said, put the Doctor alone, with just his sonic screwdriver and the Tardis, and maybe two companions (Captain Jack and Rose as the Bad Wolf Entity), and it would be a hilariously one sided fight in favor of the Doctor. Take away the companions, and make the Doctor really angry (ala his legendary tranquil fury), and I would probably legitimately feel bad for the Reapers.

As for your second paragraph - does that remind you of anyone here on this forum? Someone of heroic proportions?

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 03 janvier 2014 - 12:34 .

[ObserverStatus]

The Galactic Empire could probably take them on, because dat Death Star. The Reaper's mass effect fields can't repel firepower of that magnitude tbh.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

bobobo878 wrote...

The Galactic Empire could probably take them on, because dat Death Star. The Reaper's mass effect fields can't repel firepower of that magnitude tbh.

Pffff. That's epic overkill. Then again, overkill is underrated. 

One ISD from the Empire could solo the Reapers.

For good measure, I'd put a small task force of 5 ISD's against the Reapers. Or a small fleet of smaller ships against them.

Remember, the firepower from one single turbolaser is in the gigaton range for its yield. 

One ISD is armed with nearly 100 turbolasers (of various sizes). 

And the funny thing is, Reapers are larger than an ISD by 394 meters.

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 03 janvier 2014 - 12:41 .

[ObserverStatus]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...
Remember, the firepower from one single turbolaser is in the gigaton range for its yield. 

A gigaton? Lol, who writes this stuff? The guy who wrote the background info on Star Destroyers must have joined Nintendo later in life to write Pokedex entries.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

bobobo878 wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...
Remember, the firepower from one single turbolaser is in the gigaton range for its yield. 

A gigaton? Lol, who writes this stuff? The guy who wrote the background info on Star Destroyers must have joined Nintendo later in life to write Pokedex entries.

Well, the output from the back-up reactor of a single ISD can match the output of over a 1000 modern fusion reactors working at maximum capacity for 10 years.

The output from the main reactor is more than a main sequence star.

I **** you not.

That's the thing though. Star Wars is space fantasy. A space opera. It's not concerned with hard science fiction, and never was. From the very get-go it was always fantastical in nature. Right off the bat, you know that your technological suspension of disbelief is going to be attuned to something different. These things are possible in the SW universe.

Mass Effect is the same to a certain degree. It is much more of an epic space opera than it is of a mainline science fiction.

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 03 janvier 2014 - 12:57 .

[The Devlish Redhead]

I'd still like to see that fight with Magog vs Reapers with the Worldship

[Lomskis]

 Arilou and Chmmr - definitely. Orz, probably. And Zoq-Fot-Pik of course 

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Lexx.

[The Devlish Redhead]

Lexx would probably eat a reaper

[MassivelyEffective0730]

StreetMagic wrote...

I think if all of those other fictional threats were so great, then the stories would have an even bigger sense of helplessness and misery like Mass Effect tries to do.

They don't mainly because it falls under extreme grimdark territory, and BW thinks they're being deep by being completely grimdark.

In most cases, they're all conventional threats with proportionally equipped protagonists going against them. The Doctor is happy go lucky and unphased. Luke Skywalker doesn't give a damn.

I don't understand what the hell you're talking about here.

The Reapers otoh are an existential threat.

And the Daleks aren't?

And Bioware goes out of their way of discouraging you of taking any conventional measure or typical war strategy.

Except the Hollywood Rush and Hollywood tactics. Those must always do something EPIC!

No matter what you conjure up, they're meant to suck the morale out of anything that goes against them. And in the end, they only die off because they themselves let that happen. You play by their rules every step of the way.

Morale is a tricky thing to hold. Granted, when you have a means to stop them, such as the Crucible, that would build some kind of hope. 

[MassivelyEffective0730]

tickle267 wrote...

I could see most things from the stargate universe beating the reapers, certainly the ancients, ori, asgard, wraiths and probably even the goa'uld.

Star Trek technology could beat the Reapers.

Really, they're hyper-advanced on their own in their own universe, yes. Outside of it, they're hilariously outgunned by other groups.

As I said, give the Doctor a sonic screwdriver and the Tardis, put him against the entire Reaper fleet, and watch the curbstomp.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

StreetMagic wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

I don't understand what the hell you're talking about here.

I'm saying that some of those things aren't much of a threat, relatively speaking/in their own settings, if the protagonists are unphased and equally equipped.

The Reapers are meant to be deprotagonizing on principle. Their power has nothing to do with their technological superiority or weapons. Their power is authorial. They are meant to take a giant dump on the player/protagonist and anything else that gets in the way. You can move the basic concept to another setting, and they'd just take a dump according to that other setting's rules.

What?

All of their power is completely from their technological superiority. In universe. 

In a meta-example, they're simply over-powered.

[ruggly]

tickle267 wrote...

Starfish.

they would take the reapers, and push them somewhere else!

No Patrick, the reapers are not an instrument.

[McFlurry598]

 I think the fictional covenant race from the Halo universe would be an interesting war with the reapers. Not only the reapers, but the races of the MEU as well. Especially turians.

[Rusty Sandusky]

McFlurry598 wrote...

 I think the fictional covenant race from the Halo universe would be an interesting war with the reapers. Not only the reapers, but the races of the MEU as well. Especially turians.

The Covenant would attempt to glass a Reaper capital ship.

[Stalker]

Halo's Flood.
They are basically like the Reapers in organic form and it would be a very interesting war of who consumes who... which the Flood will probably win.

[McFlurry598]

Mr Massakka wrote...

Halo's Flood.
They are basically like the Reapers in organic form and it would be a very interesting war of who consumes who... which the Flood will probably win.

The flood can only infect organics. So part of the reapers would be infected whilst the other half would be synthetic. Lore of Halo only has it that only when the victim is fully infected does the flood form take over. Flood+reapers would only make the reapers more powerful.