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[Sully13]

What this is a question. seriosly?
umm not everyone can afford a new conso there answerl.
unless this is another Trolling " PC is better " thing in which case go give filatio to a bear.

[ghostzodd]

EntropicAngel wrote...

ghostzodd wrote...

Angrywolves wrote...

EA wants 5 million copies sold minimum.

Dang thats some booty

This is conjecture. We have no documentation saying EA expects DA: I to sell 5 million copies.

So its not possible to come up with an eduated idea about how much a company wants a product to sell based on the previous  dealings? Also all the arguements you are making are essentially conjecture unless you have documented sources to back up your claims?

[ghostzodd]

su lu pi wrote...

What this is a question. seriosly?
umm not everyone can afford a new conso there answerl.
unless this is another Trolling " PC is better " thing in which case go give filatio to a bear.

He didn't mention anything about PC

[Magdalena11]

I'm pretty sure DAI will be awesome for last gen console gamers. The devs know not everyone is able to upgrade and I think they've been pretty open about their concern for continuing their support for the faithful fans they've got so far. It's really sweet, actually.

[Sully13]

Yeah i know but on afew threads the mere mention of consols leads to a consol war.

[Blackrising]

su lu pi wrote...

What this is a question. seriosly?
umm not everyone can afford a new conso there answerl.
unless this is another Trolling " PC is better " thing in which case go give filatio to a bear.

Companies rarely care about what their potential customers can or can't afford. It's simply a matter of reaching the biggest possible player base.

Also, I'm pretty sure there's a mod for that bear thing.

[Sully13]

Its basic comon sence not to limit your clientell ( Yeah i know i misspelled it.)
sticking to onlt next gen consols would limit sales.
yeah they could stick to next gen but hopefully wont.
just like i could kill prostitutes but dont. because im a good girl and i get a cookie.
se and just when you thaught i was contributing. : )

[AresKeith]

Too obvious -3/10

[ghostzodd]

EntropicAngel wrote...

ghostzodd wrote...

So its not possible to come up with an eduated idea about how much a company wants a product to sell based on the previous dealings? Also all the arguements you are making are essentially conjecture unless you have documented sources to back up your claims?

How much they want to sell? Sure. How much before it's a failure? That's a very different point.

So its possible to figure out how much they would like to sell, but figuring out how much before it would be a failure is not plausible? That logic does not make sense,

[Angrywolves]

EntropicAngel wrote...

Angrywolves wrote...

It's been reported in other forums that EA has said this.

Believe it or not.

shrugs.

About DA: I? Proof, please.

There's google.Look it up.
Not looking it up for you.
Nothing personal albeit I didn't like your response re this issue.


So I find no need to extend myself looking for the article I saw.

If you want to not believe that's fine.Believe whatever you like to believe or choose to believe.

shrugs.<_<

[lady_v23]

So poor people like me don't have a breakdown.

[ghostzodd]

EntropicAngel wrote...

ghostzodd wrote...

So its possible to figure out how much they would like to sell, but figuring out how much before it would be a failure is not plausible? That logic does not make sense,

No. Figuring out what EA thinks is a failure, not what actually is a failure or not. We'll only know if they state it.

Eh I disagree, if one were to study economics, business, and where the AAA market was heading, then it would be plausible.

We will just agree to disagree

Modifié par ghostzodd, 04 janvier 2014 - 01:44 .

[Deflagratio]

Angrywolves wrote...

It's been reported in other forums that EA has said this.

Believe it or not.

shrugs.

The Five Million mark sounds somewhat reasonable. It's not really a crushing expectation for a AAA studio with the kind of talent Bioware has.

With only a new Gen release (Including PC) the Five Million mark might be difficult, especially if they'd need to reach at least 2/3 of that the first week of release (Typical since launch week is the most important for sales). With Five platforms being launched for, as long as Dragon Age is actually good, I don't see it being a problem getting there.

Also, the breakout success of Skyrim  and the cultural impact of Game of Thrones has really widened the net for the Fantasy genre/setting.

[Deflagratio]

slimgrin wrote...

J. Reezy wrote...

Wow, I can't believe this is a serious question. Yeah, abandon ship on the install base of the last gen. That's happened before and worked out successfully for franchises. Yup.

Isn't it time for developers to move on though? I mean last gen had like 8 yrs, they could in theory continue to release cross gen games and never fully embrace the new tech.

Remember that before the new platforms had even been announced, Inquisition was already in productive development for at least a year. With no idea how receptive the public would be of new hardware, any developer would be hard pressed to completely focus on an unproven platform with no install base.

Furthermore, look at the 100% Next-Gen exclusive games. Killzone: Shadowfall, Ryse: Son of Rome, Knack, Dead Rising 3... All underwhelming. Typical of most any launch game, and in no way indicative of the future...after all the hardware is only as good as the software that uses it.

Most designers agree that the 360/PS3 still have more to give, in other words, the hardware isn't constricting design just yet... The only gains will likely be graphical for two years or so, until there's actually mechanics and core design principles that can't be executed without 8GB of memory.

[Melca36]

JasonPogo wrote...

Now I know allot of people have those systems and played the first two games on them.  But seeing as this game missed the 2013 release window I kinda don't see the scenes in it.  By this time next year the 360 and PS3 will be more or less dead consoles with no new content being put out.  Don't get me wrong I think it's great that they are doing it.  Just from a business standpoint it kinda seems like a bad idea.

Pretty Naive to assume everybody can afford a new console immediately.   And did you consider the extra sales the game will be getting? Think about it.

[katerinafm]

They've been working on the game for a while, so they could have found a way to import it to last gen without it being more trouble than it's worth. Regardless of that, however, there are other reasons.
Do you throw your last gen consoles out the window and stop playing all your already owned games when a new console comes out? By having the game for last gen consoles they already KNOW that there are millions of people that have the consoles and could potentially buy it AND that there could be people that would prefer to have the DA series in the same console. Also silly that I have to mention it since it's pretty obvious, but not everyone can afford the next-gen consoles (myself included). Even if they did, they could think that it's a waste to buy a next-gen console yet when they have current-gen consoles that they have games on that they still play. Looks like a win-win to me.

[Slayer299]

Because not everyone will have run out and bought a next gen console and BW would be shooting itself in the foot to ignore the 360/PS3 consoles for the next gen only...

[Orian Tabris]

@ the original poster.

Actually, neither are really dead, and won't be in Nov 2014. Example: Square Enix will be making the last Final Fantasy XIII for PS3 (and Xbox360? I dunno, I'm better than to use an Xbox), and Final Fantasy XV is also going to be available on PS3.

The real question is: Why is BioWare releasing ANY of their games on console in the first place?