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[SethSteiner]

The american gladiator woman who played in Red Alert 3 was pretty and sexy^^

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Modifié par SethSteiner, 21 janvier 2010 - 12:04 .

[MentalKase]

He only strong women that scare me are those freaky body builders that look like they can snap me in half. But then again those men also scare me also.

[vhatever]

I don't really understand the subject zero haters. Not sure what's up with it, really. I'm pretty nuetral to her chararcter, Though i'm not a big fan of bald women or tatoos on men or women. She could be interesting.


I'm also not sure if I'd call her a "strong woman". Psychotic people, if she is, tend to be quite fragile.

[RevengeofNewton]

Caion wrote...

I agree. Look at all the walking steroid/testosterone filled space marines who also swear and have tattoos that people think are cool. This leads me to believe that if Subject Zero were a man, people would think she's badass instead of being "disturbed." Gaming is a predominantly male audience, and it shows.

I agree with this.

[ThisIsMadness91]

I don't mind strong women. What I don't like is bat**** insane psychopaths.

[Bryy_Miller]

I'm not passing judgment until I play the game. Then I'll figure if she's a bad character or not.

[Azazel005]

Do strong women scare me? No, being physically strong isn't scary at all and strength of emotion and conviction are charming traits that draw me to such women.



How "strength" can be applied to Subject Zero on the other hand remains to be seen, the skittles of information they have released surely isn't enough to make an informed decision.

[merikano]

Well I am a gamer so... no. I love strong women: women who fight for what they want and always shoot for the stars, independent, passionate, challenging, and insist that they walk beside you - not behind. That's the woman I need but for the purposes of Shepard?



Well, will he ever really have kids? I don't know, he isn't exactly your standard GI marine (same goes if you're playing a femshep). Family is important to a lot of people - I imagine with Ashley it'd be a huge influence on whether she could go the distance or not with a guy. That's one of the larger flaws I see with the Shep/Ashley ship. Out of all the possible LI's I think Ashley would have the most trouble with this - especially if on top of that your Shepard is a hardcore renegade because even Ashley has limits. On the pro side Ashley is a very strong-willed and independent woman. Not a girl who will simply nod along with everything Shepard says - this was evident in the ME1 briefings as well as her initiative with offing Wrex. This type of dominant woman would suit Shepard well, for at least in the short term. Best chemisty to have with her would probably be a spacer type background.



Liara/Shepard... it's tricky because Liara will outlive him/her for centuries and any children they have would be asari. Shepard would have to deal with the issue that after their death Liara would grieve but eventually find another love. Long term this relationship could work really well since Shepard will be out fighting for humanity a long time and Liara could be right there with him/her. However if your Shepard was mostly pro-human and renegade this could turn out to be a very rocky ride.



Kaidan/Shepard... I don't see family being too big an issue for him. Obviously he's seen his fair share of childhood issues and probably would put the alliance before his own happiness every time. Again renegade Shepard wouldn't fare well, most likely a strong paragon - background history wouldn't matter too much I imagine. He seems to be a firm believer in that the past is the past.



Which brings us to ME2 LIs... oh joy because only about a quarter of this is based on actual fact.



SPOILERS for ME2 ALERT!





To start with, CH confirmed in a interview that Thane will be a LI for female Shepards. Of course we also know that he is dying - bummer. An assassin/monk looking for some type of redemption... if you plan on being an uncaring jerk in ME2 he'll still follow you but romance would probably be difficult at best. Again this is speculation only so, who knows.



Jacob is another female LI, obviously. I never played ME Galaxy but it was hinted that at the end he and Miranda had some sort of fling, so there's that to deal with. Also he's a Cerberus operative. He believes in a pro-human organization but not always in its methods. Personally I think he's all right and would be a good match for many femsheps. In fact the ones who might have difficulty would be happy go lucky women who try to be optimistic about everything. Those types would probably drive him up the wall.



Grunt - do I really need to? I mean I bet he has the stamina of a bull but otherwise...



Garrus is one of my favorite ME1 characters who was at first really stuck on his beliefs: conventional versus unconventional. Family does matter to him, his father mattered a lot though Garrus appears to resent him. I don't think he'd want to be in the military forever but as for how turian/human biology would work out? That's an entirely different question.



Mordin - a salarian MD on speed. I still don't know where to begin with him so I'll let you other forumnites hash it out.



Tali, I worked with her quite a bit in my last few playthroughs and she seemed like a real guy's gal. Not too confident in ME1, she seemed like she was out to prove herself but from what I've seen of the ME2 trailers she's definitely sporting a whole new bag. Being exiled will obviously have a tremondous impact on her, being a quarian is everything to Tali and I imagine family goes hand in hand with that. As for human/quarian biology? Same applies for turian/human. It just might not be possible.



Samara and Shepard - Samara seems to go by a vigilante code that follows a more street type justice system. This would definitely work well with a spectre, especially our favorite Shepard. A very dominant African Goddess like nature she has forsaken A LOT to follow the justicar code, another thing that Shepard could understand the value of - sacrifice. She's many years older than Liara and probably has as many years left in her that Shepard does. She's basically everything I wished Liara was in ME1 - no offense, still love yah Liara!



Which brings us to the last two most debated ME2 LI's: Subject Zero and Miranda.



Subject Zero (Jack) has definitely gone through some hard living and is obviously a very powerful biotic. But CH, and other DEVs, have hinted that she has moments of real vulnerability and depending how you treat her that whole badass persona might eventually come tumbling down. She'll always be tough and having a family with her... no clue where to begin with that but I think that her, with an obvious alpha femla persona, could wind up going the distance with Shepard. Given her obvious trust issues and mostly badass-ness a colonial or earthborn would work well I think.



Finally Miranda who, believe it or not, I'm starting to think has the best shot with Shepard - then again I might just be distracted by her "funbags." She got screwed, well sort of. Nice upper class background but apparently was never really considered for the individual she was, made her bitter. I don't think there could be a better example than how her father had her genetically altered to be the "ideal" woman. So she seeks out Cerberus - why? No clue but she is a fanatic about their goals and out of all the ME characters (exception Wrex and Shepard) she has shown the most leadership ability - even if it has only been mediocre. From right now I can see her being a zealot because Cerberus gave her a chance to prove herself, doubly so if her father was some sort of politician who tried to further human interests through the normal channels. By the way, all that just now was pure speculation. Still I don't see her settling down anytime soon, the girl has a mission and that mission will most likely take one of two roads depending on how Shepard's relationship goes forward with her.



Final summary? Break a character's outer shell and they become puddy. It's how KoTOR worked, how ME1 worked, I imagine it's how DAO worked, and will almost definitely be how ME2 works. This comment is subjective based off my own observations and if I'm wrong or you disagree - cool. That means that Bioware is doing its job.

[MICHELLE7]

vhatever wrote...

I'm also not sure if I'd call her a "strong woman". Psychotic people, if she is, tend to be quite fragile.

Good point...maybe the right term for her would be an aggressive woman. I would consider Femshep a strong woman.

Over the last week she has jumped to the head of the pack in my pick for squaddies. I'm really interested to find out about her past.

[Bryy_Miller]

That's a good point.



Fragile woman =/= Strong woman.

[rines]

Strong woman are fine, but when i see a muscular woman, not really a fan of that. More like do not want to muscular wimanz.

[Nozybidaj]

Do strong women scare gamers?

Short answer no.  There are plenty of examples of strong women in video games players absolutely adore, from Samus to Lara Croft to our very own FemShep.

Ingrimm22 wrote...

seriously, the internets is chokeful of threads about how "disturbed" everyone is about Subject Zero. This is a little too telling to not be embarrasing. I for one really LOVE that characterdesign, seriously, it doesn't mean that i would humb her in RL (but i'm not even sure about that), but for a GAMECHARACTER she is quite unique and badass, it puzzles me that everyone and their mother seem to hate her. There's already enough ****** and asses in that game to please the adolescent, we need something to counterbalance that. And i really love the overall characterdesign so far, just "Grunt" seems a little to obvious to me.

Ah, now I see the real question.  I think maybe some one just has their feelings a little hurt because we don't like a character you like or is looking for validation of their own opinion of a character.

Let me tell you, " for a GAMECHARACTER" Suze does not strike me as "quite unique and badass".  In fact she strikes me as an example of BW putting every tasteless stereotype they could find of a "distressed young punk chick" into a single character.  She's bald, covered in tattoos, dresses like a homeless girl, she is emotionally damaged, psychologically scarred, and biotically enhanced making her incredibly dangerous.  I don't see what exactly we are suppoesd to like there?

Was she added just to have a character that can curse constantly and not feel out of place?  Was she added so someone folks can act out some sort of "daddy" fetish trying to rescue her from herself?  I dunno, but I can likely see me not caring very much about her one way or the other.  I'd rather stick her in a dark corner of the new Normandy and forget about her.

If you want to talk about a strong women in a video game, Miranda from what we know about her, strikes me as a much better example of a "strong woman".  Confident, edgy without being distasteful, intelligent, and able to handle her own in a fight.

So what you were really asking is not "Do strong women scare gamers?" because obviously they don't.  What you are really asking is "why don't you like what I like" which I answered above.

Now obviously, this is just based on what we actually know of the characters today.  We may get more depth to the characters once the game is out, but personally, I'm not holding out hope that there is much more under SuZe's surface than what we already have seen.

Cheers.

Modifié par Nozybidaj, 21 janvier 2010 - 12:52 .

[Dano25655]

Jesse Houston wrote...

My fiance can beat me up.

You know why that is?! Cause ur a wuss!!

[DukeOfNukes]

completely unrelated to Subject Zero...but...



A woman that CAN beat me up = sexy

A woman that WANTS to beat me up = not sexy



That's why Jillian Michaels scares me...she looks like she would be glad to have the opportunity

[Azazel005]

Master Chief isn't a Woman. What gave anyone the idea that was the case?

[Funkcase]

I wouldnt realy call SuZe a psychcopath, i would say she is a troubled women with alot of pain in her life with deep emotional scars that make her put on this tough attitude to hide them. She seems like she wants to be loved and thats what she needs by the look of it.

[Kreid]

SuZe looks like one of the best members of the cast, why people don't like her is beyond me

[ammit23]

imo, SuZe is a good addition to the cast of characters. Wouldn't want all team mates being cut out of the same mold. That would kill the enjoyment of getting to know more as I play through an RPG (versus just being an action game). But there's only so many ways to make characters different without touching on something that someone, anyone, somewhere is going to cry foul and label as a stereotype. Besides, as mentioned previously, BW has already discussed there's more than just the "in your face bad****" side to SuZe. I for one would love it if she's just a bad****, but if there's more depth then that'll be even better. But until I play the game next week I'm not going to put any labels on anything from ME2.

[Nozybidaj]

Azazel005 wrote...

Master Chief isn't a Woman. What gave anyone the idea that was the case?

Hmm, I've never played Halo, thought she was.  /homersimpsondohmoment

Modifié par Nozybidaj, 21 janvier 2010 - 12:53 .

[ODST 3]

I think some gamers were threatened by Ashley, not listening to her rationales for her beliefs and preferring to call her a xenophobe. She's really not that strong in a lot of ways but the tough exterior probably puts some guys off so the go for the easy screw with Liara.

[AgentOfAtlas]

Azazel005 wrote...

Master Chief isn't a Woman. What gave anyone the idea that was the case?

There was a female Spartan as a bonus character in in 360's Dead Or Alive (erm, 4?) game, so maybe that generated the confusion for some people?

[ODST 3]

AgentOfAtlas wrote...

Azazel005 wrote...

Master Chief isn't a Woman. What gave anyone the idea that was the case?

There was a female Spartan as a bonus character in in 360's Dead Or Alive (erm, 4?) game, so maybe that generated the confusion for some people?

Yes, also, there's Samus, an armored space warrior who usually hides her face which might confuse some.