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How did Circle Mage Bethany avoid getting abused?


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rasloveszev

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I'm very shocked about how things worked out in Act 2. Bethany seemed to love the Circle!....despite the fact that the Kirkwall Circle is known for their sadistic ruther Templars and a certain one that's raping the mages. How does Bethany seem to avoid all of that going on?

My only guess is that she was guarded by the non-corupted Templars (and Cullen maybe).

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They wouldn't dare **** with the champions sister.

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Hawke.

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A better question is why are you posting so many speculative threads?

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Bethany joined the wardens in my playthrough.I thought it was safer than her being in the circle.

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General TSAR wrote...

A better question is why are you posting so many speculative threads?


And people don't?

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Bethany was already halfway convinced that she should be caged, she probably assimilated very easily into Circle-life. Also why are you so sure she didn't get abused? I wouldn't say she loved Circle life as much as accepted it.

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mx_keep13 wrote...

They wouldn't dare **** with the champions sister.



But Hawke's the Champion in Act 3. I'm talking about Act 2.

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What does this have to do with Dragon Age: Inquisition!?

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Foopydoopydoo wrote...

Bethany was already halfway convinced that she should be caged, she probably assimilated very easily into Circle-life. Also why are you so sure she didn't get abused? I wouldn't say she loved Circle life as much as accepted it.


The papers she wrote make it seemed like she loved it there. 

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FINE HERE wrote...

What does this have to do with Dragon Age: Inquisition!?


Why can't I acess the Dragon Age 2 forums is a better question will never answer.

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rasloveszev wrote..

The papers she wrote make it seemed like she loved it there. 


To fit in with your constant speculation threads, perhaps they were forged?

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rasloveszev wrote...
The papers she wrote make it seemed like she loved it there. 


~ahem~

Dear Hawke,
I hope this letter finds you well. My time in the Circle has been bearable, even after the templars made a point of putting me through the Harrowing as soon as I arrived. They thought I was at risk of possession or running away like Father. Glad it's over with.

I've started mentoring apprentices. I enjoy time with the children, teaching them basic spells. One of them, Ella, has taken a shine to me. Adorable!

Life's not perfect here, mind you. The templars are mostly polite, and I know they're just doing their jobs, but some hold extreme views. There's one creep named Ser Alrik who likes harassing mages, but I'll steer clear of him!

I'm doing fine! Please don't worry about me.
With love,

Bethany


What.

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Hawke, plus Cullen promised to keep an eye on her.

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She doesn't really enjoy there, more like she is just surviving. But she aways seemed to be the tame type, and as such she didn't called much attention. Though, in act 3 there is this scene were Meredith kind of blackmails Hawke with Bethany if Hawke refuses to do her bidding. So she is not exactly bullet proof.

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rasloveszev wrote...

I'm very shocked about how things worked out in Act 2. Bethany seemed to love the Circle!....despite the fact that the Kirkwall Circle is known for their sadistic ruther Templars and a certain one that's raping the mages. How does Bethany seem to avoid all of that going on?

My only guess is that she was guarded by the non-corupted Templars (and Cullen maybe).


Because it would have encouraged some people to side against the templars if Bethany was abused. There's not an actual reason to explain it story-wise; the entire reason Alain sided with Thrask was to topple the oppressive system that was permitting this kind of abuse unchecked, since he was a rape victim.

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LobselVith8 wrote...
Because it would have encouraged some people to side against the templars if Bethany was abused. There's not an actual reason to explain it story-wise; the entire reason Alain sided with Thrask was to topple the oppressive system that was permitting this kind of abuse unchecked, since he was a rape victim.


Who was a rape victim now?

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Foopydoopydoo wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...
Because it would have encouraged some people to side against the templars if Bethany was abused. There's not an actual reason to explain it story-wise; the entire reason Alain sided with Thrask was to topple the oppressive system that was permitting this kind of abuse unchecked, since he was a rape victim.


Who was a rape victim now?

Alain was. If Ser Karras lives after Act of Mercy, Alain tells you that Karras visits him in his quarters at night.

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Bethany was lying to Hawke. It's pretty obviously in character for her, to play the martyr so that her family has a home in Kirkwall. She has a lot of self-loathing for what she sees as her family's inability to law down roots because of her being a mage. It's pretty heavily implied she didn't miss out on the abuse, she just sees it at worth it to no longer burden her family. 

Modifié par In Exile, 04 janvier 2014 - 09:07 .


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Foopydoopydoo wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...
Because it would have encouraged some people to side against the templars if Bethany was abused. There's not an actual reason to explain it story-wise; the entire reason Alain sided with Thrask was to topple the oppressive system that was permitting this kind of abuse unchecked, since he was a rape victim.


Who was a rape victim now?

Alain.

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eluvianix wrote...
Alain was. If Ser Karras lives after Act of Mercy, Alain tells you that Karras visits him in his quarters at night.


Whaaa...? He never survives in my games. ****er. Never trust anyone with muttonchops has always been my motto.

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LobselVith8 wrote...

rasloveszev wrote...

I'm very shocked about how things worked out in Act 2. Bethany seemed to love the Circle!....despite the fact that the Kirkwall Circle is known for their sadistic ruther Templars and a certain one that's raping the mages. How does Bethany seem to avoid all of that going on?

My only guess is that she was guarded by the non-corupted Templars (and Cullen maybe).


Because it would have encouraged some people to side against the templars if Bethany was abused. There's not an actual reason to explain it story-wise; the entire reason Alain sided with Thrask was to topple the oppressive system that was permitting this kind of abuse unchecked, since he was a rape victim.


Good point. 

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In Exile wrote...

Bethany was lying to Hawke. It's pretty obviously in character for her, to play the martyr so that her family has a home in Kirkwall. She has a lot of self-loathing for what she sees as her family's inability to law down roots because of her being a mage. It's pretty heavily implied she didn't miss out on the abuse, she just sees it at worth it to no longer burden her family. 

It's heavily implied......where, exactly?

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Foopydoopydoo wrote...

rasloveszev wrote...
The papers she wrote make it seemed like she loved it there. 


~ahem~

Dear Hawke,
I hope this letter finds you well. My time in the Circle has been bearable, even after the templars made a point of putting me through the Harrowing as soon as I arrived. They thought I was at risk of possession or running away like Father. Glad it's over with.

I've started mentoring apprentices. I enjoy time with the children, teaching them basic spells. One of them, Ella, has taken a shine to me. Adorable!

Life's not perfect here, mind you. The templars are mostly polite, and I know they're just doing their jobs, but some hold extreme views. There's one creep named Ser Alrik who likes harassing mages, but I'll steer clear of him!

I'm doing fine! Please don't worry about me.
With love,

Bethany


What.




also: The Templars would be reading her letters, so we cannot be sure either way.

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LobselVith8 wrote...

Because it would have encouraged some people to side against the templars if Bethany was abused. There's not an actual reason to explain it story-wise; the entire reason Alain sided with Thrask was to topple the oppressive system that was permitting this kind of abuse unchecked, since he was a rape victim.


Well I did side with the Mages after Meredith called for the Rite of Annulment and Bethany was at risk of being killed by the Templars.