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[Mathias]

http://www.forbes.co...ge-inquisition/

What do you think? Agree or Disagree?

I've been thinking this ever since ME3 came out. There was a thread not too long ago where the OP asked if DA:I is Bioware's last saving grace. Unfortunately I think the vast majority of the people who posted in that forum missed the point entirely. While someone can say "No, because I rather enjoyed ToR, DA2 and ME3"  it's easy for that person to miss the bigger picture, and the big picture is that a lot of gamers and fans of Bioware have been burned by Bioware's past 3 games. Perhaps on an individual level, there's no reason to care about the bigger picture, as long as YOU personally enjoy the games. That is your right, and I can't say you're wrong for doing so.

But I can speak for me personally that I have lost a lot of trust and faith in Bioware's ability to develop and write games on the same level of quality as they used to. Unforunately I'm not alone in this. Not by a long shot. Some of you may already know this, but for those of you who don't, NO company likes to lose money. It doesn't matter how much or how little. And while some of you may always be that loyal Bioware fan that has loved every game they've released, I believe it's foolish to argue that Bioware doesn't have some salvaging to do to their name with Dragon Age Inquistion. 


Personally I think Dragon Age Inquisiton looks great so far, and they seem to be making a lot of right decisions. But I think they've got their work cut out for them. I don't know about you, but I've definitely been getting this vibe this entire time that they're really trying to knock this one outta the park.

Modifié par Mdoggy1214, 05 janvier 2014 - 02:20 .

[Zkyire]

Bioware will endure.

If DA Inquisition doesn't do well, they still have the next ME installment.

Besides, the game, from the demo, looks to be head and shoulders above Origins and DA2.

I'm pretty optimistic, and regardless of whether it sells well or not, I'll remain a fan/customer.

Modifié par Zkyire, 05 janvier 2014 - 02:27 .

[The Elder King]

I'd say in terms of sales TOR is the only Bioware game that made them lose money. DA2's sales were good compared to the short dev cycle, and ME3 is Bioware highest selling game, with a popularMP mode.
I don't think that DAI has to be exceptional to 'save' Bioware. If the game is well-received and will make good sales, I think it'll be enough. 
From what I saw so far, I'd say that I'm optimistic. The game seems to be great. Of course my final opinion might be different, but so far I'd say that Bioware made an excellent work.

Modifié par hhh89, 05 janvier 2014 - 02:32 .

[DRTJR]

I agree this is a big bet for all involved, but Fortune Favors the Bold.

[sandalisthemaker]

Ha. The article could have been written by one of us BSN forumites. It lists the broad, general worries that so many here have brought up time and again.

[Zkyire]

sandalisthemaker wrote...

Ha. The article could have been written by one of us BSN forumites. It lists the broad, general worries that so many here have brought up time and again.

Yeah it does have the air of "DAI must sell or Bioware is doomed!!!!!111one".

[Gorkanus]

demon possesed mage.
Ea bought bioware. sound similar to me.

[Bleachrude]

*LOL*

It assumes that ME3 wasn't a great game...it apparently thanks in part to its multiplayer, seems to have the longest legs of any of the 3 games...

[OdanUrr]

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

http://www.forbes.co...ge-inquisition/

What do you think? Agree or Disagree?

I don't see why it will be a catastrophe. It only needs to be better than DA2 and it'll be a success in the eyes of fans.

[Vapaa]

ME3 a disaster ? you mean the same way ME2 was "an horrible step-down from ME1" and now it's a "brilliant character-driven game with one of the best final mission of history" ?
ME3 sold millions, and the multiplayer is still popular

As for the article, it doesn't say anything at all: "if DAI is a downer, it will scratch Bioware's reputation", YOU DON'T SAY ! There's nothing in his article to indicate that DAI will be a disaster, he just asks "Will DAI be a disaster ?" without answering or even give elements that would support that (he even give elements taht supports the opposite)

I want the 30s of my life back

[OdanUrr]

Vapaä wrote...

As for the article, it doesn't say anything at all: "if DAI is a downer, it will scratch Bioware's reputation", YOU DON'T SAY ! There's nothing in his article to indicate that DAI will be a disaster, he just asks "Will DAI be a disaster ?" without answering or even give elements that would support that (he even give elements taht supports the opposite)

I want the 30s of my life back

I'm a bit disappointed by what passes for an article these days.

[The Elder King]

Bleachrude wrote...

*LOL*

It assumes that ME3 wasn't a great game...it apparently thanks in part to its multiplayer, seems to have the longest legs of any of the 3 games...

He didn't say it (if you're talking about the article). He said that it's the most controversial title of 2012, which is somewhat true.

Modifié par hhh89, 05 janvier 2014 - 02:58 .

[dreamgazer]

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

http://www.forbes.co...ge-inquisition/

What do you think? Agree or Disagree?

I think Forbes' staff learned exactly how to push the doomsayer BSN buttons in 2012, and does so for page hits.

[Liamv2]

Lol forbes. It's almost like they just copy pasted the comments from BSN.

[Fredvdp]

The problem with the argument presented in the article, is that the last three major BioWare games, being DA2, ME3 and SWTOR, were not all disasters. DA2 was rushed, sure, but ME3, despite its problems, was still a great game, same as SWTOR.

[Sanunes]

Looks like Forbes has gone from journalism to "Internet click cash grab", this isn't any better then making a full article from a couple of tweets and forecasting what the game is going to be like which I have seen from other "gaming" websites.

On the topic of the article I really don't think Mass Effect 3 was as bad as they make it out to be, there might have been an "internet rage" about it, but if VGChartz is even remotely accurate the game was still one of the best selling games of the year and seems to have done just as well as Mass Effect 2 with the same type of drop off for sales from week-to-week. Of course there will always be people that will walk away from a game publisher because they didn't like their previous work, but I know many people that evaluate each game on its own merits, it might just not be a Day 1 purchase anymore.

[Fast Jimmy]

I'd say a lot is riding on DA:I for Bioware. I agree that Bioware really needs a slam dunk over just a "good" game to quiet down some of their detractors. And I think a full blown disaster could be a possible dagger in the DA series.

That said, I think Bioware would survive another lackluster game release. And I certainly doubt EA would truly lose any sleep if one game isn't amazing, even if it is in a string of games that have not been greatly received (both with their other developers, as well as with Bioware themselves). After all, while the article writer calls ME3 a disaster (to which I agree), it still made both Bioware and EA money. It took a huge chunk out of consumer confidence, but the game remained solvent.

So, again... a lot riding on DA:I not just being good, but being GREAT. Anyone who says differently I would say isn't viewing things with an industry perspective. But I'd also say that not EVEYRHING is riding on DA:I. That seems a little too "doom and gloom."

[Champion1]

*reads article* EA? Win back trust? I'm sorry, but is that even worth talking about anymore?

As someone whose only problem with DA2 was the graphics, the massive launch bugs, and the ending, I call DA2 a good game, and as others have said, it sold reasonably well even if just because of the momentum and good will DAO garnered. ME3 I loved right to the end, and my only problem with it was the lack of playable epilogue or any real ending. DA team, you spoiled me there. I still enjoy TOR when I can, still have a subscription too as far as I know. As for DA:I, I'm pre-ordering as soon as I can and will probably once again get the Collector's Edition. Yes, if it doesn't do well I think there will be reason to worry, but I don't think it will be the beginning of the end with another ME game and a new IP already coming from BioWare. As of now, they still have my faith.

[Afro_Explosion]

I see one of my comments in the article. Plagiarism!!!

[The Elder King]

@Fast Jimmy: what do you think it'd happen if Bioware release a 'merely' good and well-received DAI? I agree that a great DAI would restore a lot of Bioware's trust, but I don't think it'd necessary for them continue to making games without worry.

[Legbiter]

Meh, it's just Forbes trolling for clicks.

[Potato Cat]

Legbiter wrote...

Meh, it's just Forbes trolling for clicks.

This. It's almost Examiner worthy if you ask me.

Modifié par Elfman, 05 janvier 2014 - 03:49 .

[llandwynwyn]

Started to read and in was all about how ME3, DA2 and TOR flopped. We all know that.

and then...

I remain optimistic that this will be the game that gets BioWare back on its feet. But if I’m wrong, well, 2014 could be a very interesting year for the video game industry.