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[dreamgazer]

Elfman wrote...

It's almost Examiner worthy if you ask me.

Worse, actually.  Usually Examiner articles exaggerate some trivial piece of new information for page clicks.

The Forbes opinion piece (part of a "Potential Disasters" series, apparently) offers nothing new. 

[David7204]

It should be obvious to any fool that any big game with lots of press and promised features can become a catastrophe for a company if it's a huge disappointment.

Forbes did a laughable job complaining about the ME 3 ending. I'm wondering if this is the same writer. 

Modifié par David7204, 05 janvier 2014 - 04:14 .

[leaguer of one]

Zkyire wrote...

sandalisthemaker wrote...

Ha. The article could have been written by one of us BSN forumites. It lists the broad, general worries that so many here have brought up time and again.

Yeah it does have the air of "DAI must sell or Bioware is doomed!!!!!111one".

It's clear that the writer is a regualar member of the forums.

[Mathias]

Fredvdp wrote...

The problem with the argument presented in the article, is that the last three major BioWare games, being DA2, ME3 and SWTOR, were not all disasters. DA2 was rushed, sure, but ME3, despite its problems, was still a great game, same as SWTOR.

ToR wasn't a disaster? 2nd most expensive game ever developed, and it started hemorrhaging subscribers after the first month and went free to play in under a year. That's not a disaster to you? Are you crazy?

Modifié par Mdoggy1214, 05 janvier 2014 - 04:30 .

[Fishy]

Well the game need to be exceptionnal because I want to play an exceptionnal bioware game, but they're a bit too much doomy-nooby for my taste. BioWare make us an exceptionnal game. I don't want to put pressure, but.... make us the best RPG EVER CREATED !

Modifié par Suprez30, 05 janvier 2014 - 04:31 .

[archav3n]

I for one will not be hesitant to wait and let the community review DAI first before jumping in. Unless there's pre-order bonus and discounts for pre-launch. But i don't think that's gonna happen

[Raven489]

Read that article last night. Not really sure what to think of it, but I'm being optimistic about DA:I (and so far I like what's been shown to us). He has no real proof that DA:I is going to be a "catastrophe" though. But, several people have told me (and people not even from this site) that if DA:I sucks, they're done with Bioware, so I don't know.

[David7204]

It's a very childish 'threat.'

[FireAndBlood]

hhh89 wrote...

Bleachrude wrote...

*LOL*

It assumes that ME3 wasn't a great game...it apparently thanks in part to its multiplayer, seems to have the longest legs of any of the 3 games...

He didn't say it (if you're talking about the article). He said that it's the most controversial title of 2012, which is somewhat true.

Diablo III would beg to differ.

[andar91]

It seems like the article lists quite a few reasons why DAI will likely be a great game despite the author's doom-n-gloom claims. I do think that this game is important to Bioware, but I feel like people are feeling burned and jumping to conclusions.

I haven't played ME, but it's my understanding that they're completely different teams. And I thought that 3 was well-received except for the ending? In any case, different teams.

DA2 had a lot of issues, but Bioware's received copious feedback about the game, and the development cycle for DAI seems much longer. The primary issue with 2 imo was that it was rushed (as far as I can tell).

I'm pretty confident about DAI being enjoyable.

EDIT: About people being "done with Bioware".

I think it's a load of crap. People will get games they're interested in. I, and I"m sure I'm not alone in this, don't buy games because a company made them, I buy them because something about the game interests me. The creators can be a FACTOR, but it's far from the only thing I'm looking at.

Modifié par andar91, 05 janvier 2014 - 04:38 .

[Raven489]

David7204 wrote...

It's a very childish 'threat.'

If you're talking about what I said in my post, then I agree. If you're not, then completely disregard this, lol!

[The Elder King]

FireAndBlood wrote...
Diablo III would beg to differ.

I disagree that D3 is as controversial and ME3, but fair enough. They're both two very controversial games.

[David7204]

Raven489 wrote...

David7204 wrote...

It's a very childish 'threat.'

If you're talking about what I said in my post, then I agree. If you're not, then completely disregard this, lol!

Yes, I am. The 'If your next game isn't good, I'm done with you!' threat.

[Raven489]

David7204 wrote...

Raven489 wrote...

David7204 wrote...

It's a very childish 'threat.'

If you're talking about what I said in my post, then I agree. If you're not, then completely disregard this, lol!

Yes, I am. The 'If your next game isn't good, I'm done with you!' threat.

I find it hard to believe that if Bioware was to make an amazing game, that people wouldn't buy it just because of one of their past games they didn't like. I just roll my eyes when I hear people say something like that.

[TheButterflyEffect]

Bring back NWN. Not as a crappy MMO, because I detest those. I mean the REAL NWN.

[dreamgazer]

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

Fredvdp wrote...

The problem with the argument presented in the article, is that the last three major BioWare games, being DA2, ME3 and SWTOR, were not all disasters. DA2 was rushed, sure, but ME3, despite its problems, was still a great game, same as SWTOR.

ToR wasn't a disaster? 2nd most expensive game ever developed, and it started hemorrhaging subscribers after the first month and went free to play in under a year. That's not a disaster to you? Are you crazy?

That's a testament to the foolishness of entering the subscription-MMO market this late in the game. 

Apparently it's bounced back rather well after going F2P.

[ruggly]

I'm enjoying SWTOR. Certainly rough around the edges, but it's not the worst MMO I've played.

[Thibax]

I doubt that DAI will be a disaster.
I am with DAI team.

And I will love a new NWN game, not online, please.

[spirosz]

Every game they release is their last saving grace.

[AlexanderCousland]

Im hoping DA:I will be good, but Im having serious doubts after reading (alot) of articles and following the devs on Twitter for the last 2 1/2 years. The Oxm and Huff post interviews (among other's) are sprinkled with little details about Character's, Romance, and Plot development that I feel will make the game too soft. But I shall remain optimistic.

[LinksOcarina]

You know, I expect better from Erik Cain. A LOT better than a terrible article that basically predicts doom and gloom before we play anything of substance from the title.

It also covers his bias in terms of what he likes. He doesn't say why Dragon Age II is a step down from Origins (and yes, I know people can give a laundry list of reasons but thats kind of my point) or if the controversy regarding Mass Effect 3 was really all that up to snuff. It is a hollow article that tells us very little, like an episode of the Jimquisition.

In truth, BioWare is doing pretty good for themselves at the moment. Three games in development at once, one of them a new I.P as far as we know, and despite all the negativity the "misses" at bat were still better than 90% of what has come out in the past four years anyway.

I think people tend to overthink such things in the long run. Let the game come out and be judged, without preconceptions of how it may or may not be.

[LinksOcarina]

ruggly wrote...

I'm enjoying SWTOR. Certainly rough around the edges, but it's not the worst MMO I've played.

If my laptop can run it I would be enjoying it too. From what I played it was pretty good.

The issue with ToR is hype and speculation. Results-wise its making money at this point, in the first year it was on track but slower than expected. Got to remember, MMO's are usually long-hauls for monetary gain. By the time ToR ends, if it does at all, the title will make a profit. 

[Hrungr]

While I'm excited for DAI, I do worry sometimes about how it will be received by the general gaming public, even if the game itself turns out be amazing.

Will people who didn't buy DA2 find that a psychological barrier to buying DAI? What if serious competition, like W3, is released in the same timeframe? Can DAI attract significant new players to the franchise? What if DAI turns out to be a great game marred by serious game-breaking bugs at release?

From what we've seen, I think DAI has the potential to be the best in the franchise. I just hope they can get the sales to reflect that if it is...

[daveliam]

I know that I'm apparently in the minority, but I'm pretty loyal to Bioware. I'm not saying that they can't ever lose my business, but up to this point, they've done such a great job that I'm definitely not even close to turning on them.

I've played BG, BG 2, NWN, KOTOR, JE, ME, DA: O, ME 2, DA 2, ME 3, and SWTOR and I've never been disappointed by any of them. My least favorite were ME 2 and DA 2, but it was mostly because of the battle mechanics (which I think got a little to "action-RPG" for my liking. ME 3 was fine with me. I don't think it was a bad game in any respect. SWTOR is what it is. I'm not an MMO player at all (SWTOR is the only one I've ever played), but I couldn't resist it given that KOTOR is one of my favorite games of all time.

DA: I looks to me like it's shaping up to be much better than DA 2, so I'm perfectly comfortable with trusting the team with what they are doing. It would have to be far worse than DA 2 for me to even look side-eyed at Bioware and, even then, I'd still be willing to give them another chance with the new ME game. Guess I'm just an apologizing fanboy.