As a general rule of thumb, how well do the vanilla humans
work on Plat? I'm thinking of dusting off my vanilla engineer
because my main Shep's an engie and I'm having a blast
wrecking up ****e with Tali and Garrus in Single-Player.
What builds, if any, do you run the vanilla humans with if you
PUG Platinum with them? What kind of success do you have?
Vanilla Humans on Platinum?
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ToaOrka
, janv. 06 2014 01:32
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Posté 06 janvier 2014 - 01:33
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Vanilla humans are the best characters
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Posté 06 janvier 2014 - 01:35
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MasterReefa wrote...
Vanilla humans are the best characters
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Posté 06 janvier 2014 - 01:36
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Funny you should ask. Last night I mentioned that I had never taken my Femgineer onto Plat so Jojo81 had us do UUP with 4 vanilla engineers. We got Condor Geth. Managed to extract without too much of a problem but I realized I'm not strong enough to PUG plat with her. I built her 46646.
TetsuTsuru can wreck face with her.
TetsuTsuru can wreck face with her.
Modifié par Shinobu, 06 janvier 2014 - 01:39 .
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Posté 06 janvier 2014 - 01:38
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The HSent and HAdept would most likely perform better on platinum than gold. since bosses can't dodge projectile powers, and HEng would likely be great too, due to his FE->TB juggle combo.
Since biotic and tech detonations scale with difficulty, their DPS will also improve on platinum I think.
I can't give any first-hand information though, since I don't play platinum, sorry.
Since biotic and tech detonations scale with difficulty, their DPS will also improve on platinum I think.
I can't give any first-hand information though, since I don't play platinum, sorry.
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Posté 06 janvier 2014 - 01:43
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I've used the Human Adept, Engineer, and Sentinel on Platinum serviceably, and I'm not real good at the game.
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Posté 06 janvier 2014 - 01:47
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Vanilla adept is really good on platinum.
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Posté 06 janvier 2014 - 01:52
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These 3 are the characters I use too.Tantum Dic Verbo wrote...
I've used the Human Adept, Engineer, and Sentinel on Platinum serviceably, and I'm not real good at the game.
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Posté 06 janvier 2014 - 01:58
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I frequently use the original engineer and adept, they're great. You should only ever use the novaguard if you're hosting.
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Posté 06 janvier 2014 - 02:08
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All the Humans do well. I enjoy running the Human Infiltrator and Soldier on plat. So much fun.
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Posté 06 janvier 2014 - 02:09
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I love the HA on plat. I play him with cyclonic IV if possible. If you have good teammates, you can score big with all of the biotic explosions everywhere.
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Posté 06 janvier 2014 - 02:22
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The vanilla characters are some of the most well rounded characters in the game. Each of them can utilize several different builds and still be successful on Platinum. I'm personally a fan of the H. Soldier, using the avenger + disruptor ammo + concussive shot for crazy tech bursts. Takes a little practice, but it's fun as hell once you get used to it!
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Here are some of the builds I use on the Vanilla Humans. 
Human Adept: 6/6/5/3/6
- Singularity: Radius, Lift Damage and Detonate.
- Warp: Detonate, Expose and Pierce.
- Shockwave: Radius and Detonate
- Alliance Training: First Three Ranks
- Fitness: Full Fitness
Weapon: CSMG X w/Mag Upgrade and HVB and Acolyte w/Mag Upgrade and Heavy Barrel.
(or)
- Wraith
- Talon
- PPR
- Venom
- Lancer
- Claymoar
- Indra
- Eviscerator
- Piranha
- Crusader
- Raider
- GPS
- Graal
Ammo Bonus: Warp III/IV
Weapon Bonus: SMG Rail Amp III
Armor Bonus: Adrenaline
Gear Bonus: Geth Scanner
Human Soldier: 6/0/6/6/6
- Adrenaline Rush: Damage, Melee and Shield Boost.
- Concussive Shot: No Points
- Frag Grenade: Damage, Bleed and Armor Piercing.
- Alliance Training: Weapon Damage, Headshot and Weapon Damage
- Fitness: Full Fitness
Weapon: Claymoar X w/HVB and Smart Choke
(or)
- Talon
- Falcon
- Venom
- Wraith
- Eviscerator
- Piranha
- Crusader
- Raider
- GPS
- PPR
- Graal
Ammo Bonus: Armor Piercing, Drill or Incendiary III/IV
Weapon Bonus Shotgun Amp III
Armor Bonus: Adrenaline or Power Amp III/IV
Gear Bonus: Grenade Capacity, Shock Trooper or Geth Scanner
Human Engineer: 0/6/6/6/6
- Combat Drone: No Points
- Incinerate: Radius, Burning Damage and Armor Damage
- Overload: Chain, Neural Shock and Shield Damage
- Alliance Training: Damage & Capacity, Headshot and Weapon Damage.
- Fitness: Full Fitness
Weapon: Wraith X w/HVB and Smart Choke.
(or)
- Talon
- Falcon
- Venom
- Wraith
- Eviscerator
- Piranha
- Crusader
- Raider
- GPS
- PPR
- Graal
- Indra
- Arc Pistol
- Eagle
Ammo Bonus: Incendiary or Disruptor III/IV
Weapon Bonus: Shotgun Amp III
Armor Bonus: Adrenaline or Power Amp III/IV
Gear Bonus: Geth Scanner, Stronghold Package and Omni-Capacitors
Human Sentinel: 6/6/6/5/3
- Tech Armor: Durability, Power Damage and Durability
- Warp: Detonate, Expose and Pierce
- Throw: Radius, Detonate and Force and Damage
- Alliance Training. Damage & Capacity and Headshot
- Fitness: First Three Points
Weapon: Blood Pack Punisher X w/Mag Upgrade and HVB
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- CSMG
- Wraith
- Graal
- Claymore
- PPR
- Lancer
- Talon
- Eagle
- Hurricane
- Falcon
- Indra
- GPS
- Black Widow
Armor Bonus: Warp or Incendiary Ammo III/IV
Weapon Bonus: SMG AMP III
Armor Bonus: Adrenaline II/III
Gear Bonus: Stronghold Package, Survivor Loadout and Geth Scanner.
Human Infiltrator: 4/6/6/6/4
- Tactical Cloak: Damage.
- Cryo Blast: Radius, Cryo Explosion and Frozen Vulnerability.
- Sticky Grenades: Damage, Armor-Piercing and Damage.
- Alliance Training: Weapon Damage, Headshot Damage and Weapon Damage.
- Fitness: Durability
Weapon: Talon X w/Piercing Mod and Heavy Barrel
(or)
- Falcon
- Venom
- Wraith
- Eviscerator
- Piranha
- Crusader
- Raider
- GPS
- PPR
- Graal
- Indra
- Arc Pistol
- Eagle
- PPR
- Harrier
- Hurricane
- Claymore
Ammo Bonus: Incendiary or Disruptor III/IV
Weapon Bonus: Pistol Amp III
Armor Bonus: Adrenaline III
Gear Bonus: Grenade Capacity
Human Vanguard: 6/5/6/6/3
- Biotic Charge: Radius, Power Synergy and Barrier.
- Shockwave: Radius and Reach.
- Nova: Force & Damage, Half Blast and Pierce.
- Alliance Training: Damage & Capacity, Power Damage and Weapon Damage.
- Fitness: First Three Ranks.
Weapon: Indra X w/HVB and Piercing Mod.
(or)
- Venom
- Lancer
- Talon
- Wraith
- Typhoon
Ammo Bonus: Incendiary Ammo III/IV
Weapon Bonus: Sniper Amp III
Armor Bonus: Power Amp or Cyclonic III/IV
Gear Bonus: Geth Scanner or Commando Package
... Sorry for the long post.
Human Adept: 6/6/5/3/6
- Singularity: Radius, Lift Damage and Detonate.
- Warp: Detonate, Expose and Pierce.
- Shockwave: Radius and Detonate
- Alliance Training: First Three Ranks
- Fitness: Full Fitness
Weapon: CSMG X w/Mag Upgrade and HVB and Acolyte w/Mag Upgrade and Heavy Barrel.
(or)
- Wraith
- Talon
- PPR
- Venom
- Lancer
- Claymoar
- Indra
- Eviscerator
- Piranha
- Crusader
- Raider
- GPS
- Graal
Ammo Bonus: Warp III/IV
Weapon Bonus: SMG Rail Amp III
Armor Bonus: Adrenaline
Gear Bonus: Geth Scanner
Human Soldier: 6/0/6/6/6
- Adrenaline Rush: Damage, Melee and Shield Boost.
- Concussive Shot: No Points
- Frag Grenade: Damage, Bleed and Armor Piercing.
- Alliance Training: Weapon Damage, Headshot and Weapon Damage
- Fitness: Full Fitness
Weapon: Claymoar X w/HVB and Smart Choke
(or)
- Talon
- Falcon
- Venom
- Wraith
- Eviscerator
- Piranha
- Crusader
- Raider
- GPS
- PPR
- Graal
Ammo Bonus: Armor Piercing, Drill or Incendiary III/IV
Weapon Bonus Shotgun Amp III
Armor Bonus: Adrenaline or Power Amp III/IV
Gear Bonus: Grenade Capacity, Shock Trooper or Geth Scanner
Human Engineer: 0/6/6/6/6
- Combat Drone: No Points
- Incinerate: Radius, Burning Damage and Armor Damage
- Overload: Chain, Neural Shock and Shield Damage
- Alliance Training: Damage & Capacity, Headshot and Weapon Damage.
- Fitness: Full Fitness
Weapon: Wraith X w/HVB and Smart Choke.
(or)
- Talon
- Falcon
- Venom
- Wraith
- Eviscerator
- Piranha
- Crusader
- Raider
- GPS
- PPR
- Graal
- Indra
- Arc Pistol
- Eagle
Ammo Bonus: Incendiary or Disruptor III/IV
Weapon Bonus: Shotgun Amp III
Armor Bonus: Adrenaline or Power Amp III/IV
Gear Bonus: Geth Scanner, Stronghold Package and Omni-Capacitors
Human Sentinel: 6/6/6/5/3
- Tech Armor: Durability, Power Damage and Durability
- Warp: Detonate, Expose and Pierce
- Throw: Radius, Detonate and Force and Damage
- Alliance Training. Damage & Capacity and Headshot
- Fitness: First Three Points
Weapon: Blood Pack Punisher X w/Mag Upgrade and HVB
(or)
- CSMG
- Wraith
- Graal
- Claymore
- PPR
- Lancer
- Talon
- Eagle
- Hurricane
- Falcon
- Indra
- GPS
- Black Widow
Armor Bonus: Warp or Incendiary Ammo III/IV
Weapon Bonus: SMG AMP III
Armor Bonus: Adrenaline II/III
Gear Bonus: Stronghold Package, Survivor Loadout and Geth Scanner.
Human Infiltrator: 4/6/6/6/4
- Tactical Cloak: Damage.
- Cryo Blast: Radius, Cryo Explosion and Frozen Vulnerability.
- Sticky Grenades: Damage, Armor-Piercing and Damage.
- Alliance Training: Weapon Damage, Headshot Damage and Weapon Damage.
- Fitness: Durability
Weapon: Talon X w/Piercing Mod and Heavy Barrel
(or)
- Falcon
- Venom
- Wraith
- Eviscerator
- Piranha
- Crusader
- Raider
- GPS
- PPR
- Graal
- Indra
- Arc Pistol
- Eagle
- PPR
- Harrier
- Hurricane
- Claymore
Ammo Bonus: Incendiary or Disruptor III/IV
Weapon Bonus: Pistol Amp III
Armor Bonus: Adrenaline III
Gear Bonus: Grenade Capacity
Human Vanguard: 6/5/6/6/3
- Biotic Charge: Radius, Power Synergy and Barrier.
- Shockwave: Radius and Reach.
- Nova: Force & Damage, Half Blast and Pierce.
- Alliance Training: Damage & Capacity, Power Damage and Weapon Damage.
- Fitness: First Three Ranks.
Weapon: Indra X w/HVB and Piercing Mod.
(or)
- Venom
- Lancer
- Talon
- Wraith
- Typhoon
Ammo Bonus: Incendiary Ammo III/IV
Weapon Bonus: Sniper Amp III
Armor Bonus: Power Amp or Cyclonic III/IV
Gear Bonus: Geth Scanner or Commando Package
... Sorry for the long post.
Modifié par TchockTckocky, 06 janvier 2014 - 02:34 .
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Posté 06 janvier 2014 - 02:30
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The Female Human Adept is my go-to character on Platinum. Singularity/Warp for long distance targets....Singularity/Shockwave or Warp/Shockwave for close up Biotic Explosions. Throw on the CSMG with Warp IV ammo and I'm good to go.
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Posté 06 janvier 2014 - 02:39
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Baby Quarian wrote...
Vanilla adept is really good on platinum.
Agree!
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Posté 06 janvier 2014 - 02:42
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Incisor Human Infiltrator. That is all.
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Posté 06 janvier 2014 - 02:44
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zxKittenpuncher wrote...
Incisor Human Infiltrator. That is all.
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Posté 06 janvier 2014 - 02:44
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zxKittenpuncher wrote...
Incisor Human Infiltrator. That is all.
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Posté 06 janvier 2014 - 02:50
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I regularly run the Adept, Sentinel and lately the Engineer on Platinum.
To answer you question, all the human kits are capable of doing work. As far as builds, I go no passives on the Adept, 4/6/6/6/4 on the Sentinel and no Drone on the Engineer.
To answer you question, all the human kits are capable of doing work. As far as builds, I go no passives on the Adept, 4/6/6/6/4 on the Sentinel and no Drone on the Engineer.
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Posté 06 janvier 2014 - 03:00
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The only vanilla human who is less than great is the sentinel. It isn't terrible mind you, just outclassed by other kits. Kinda like the Salarian engi. All are perfectly viable on plat, so long as you can handle playing a squishy character on plat in general (exception being the Novaguard, who is tanky but you have to be smart at avoiding sync kills).
My usual builds for the vanilla characters are, engi I run with no drone, soldier with no concussive and a Typhoon, adepts with 6/6/6/4/4 or 6/6/6/6/0, novaguard with no shockwave and a Talon/Hurricane and the infiltrator I run with no stickies if sniping and no fitness if using a closer range weapon (I can't hit crap with stickies at range).
My usual builds for the vanilla characters are, engi I run with no drone, soldier with no concussive and a Typhoon, adepts with 6/6/6/4/4 or 6/6/6/6/0, novaguard with no shockwave and a Talon/Hurricane and the infiltrator I run with no stickies if sniping and no fitness if using a closer range weapon (I can't hit crap with stickies at range).
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Posté 06 janvier 2014 - 03:04
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I use the human female adept on Platinum all the time and it's incredibly powerful.
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Posté 06 janvier 2014 - 03:08
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mrs_anomaly wrote...
I use the human female adept on Platinum all the time and it's incredibly powerful.
you were one of the first people I ever saw rock that kit on plat!
so glad you stopped by this thread
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Posté 06 janvier 2014 - 03:13
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mmmmmh..... vanilla..... oops wrong forum!!!!
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Posté 06 janvier 2014 - 03:19
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I've used all vanilla humans on UUP except for the vanguard. All great.
I usually run 66653 on Adept and Engineer. The difference between 3 ranks in Fitness and 6 is neglible since their base shields are relatively low - Cyclonic IV will do ya good if you still get shot up. I still like throwing the drone out there, myself - Plays games with the Geth.
Tchock's builds are how I run my soldier (usually with a Wraith, though I've used Claymore with success too) and the Infiltrator (Claymore, here) with success.
The Sentinel is a BE beast - 66644 - though you could easily go Clyde's route and go 0 fitness for some more weapon damage. Just like with the Adept, a power amp is a waste here, so a Cyclonic or Adrenaline amp are solid choices here.
I usually run 66653 on Adept and Engineer. The difference between 3 ranks in Fitness and 6 is neglible since their base shields are relatively low - Cyclonic IV will do ya good if you still get shot up. I still like throwing the drone out there, myself - Plays games with the Geth.
Tchock's builds are how I run my soldier (usually with a Wraith, though I've used Claymore with success too) and the Infiltrator (Claymore, here) with success.
The Sentinel is a BE beast - 66644 - though you could easily go Clyde's route and go 0 fitness for some more weapon damage. Just like with the Adept, a power amp is a waste here, so a Cyclonic or Adrenaline amp are solid choices here.
