4303 réponses à ce sujet

[LPPrince]

By everyone. There's a reason its won dozens of awards(it continues to do so), a reason its hit song "Let It Go" has over 134 million views(at this time), a reason it has a million covers of its hit song on Youtube(along with quite a few covers of the other tracks), a reason its grossed over one billion dollars(putting it above all of the Disney Renaissance movies), a reason its been a strong contender in theatres this long after its release(came out last November), etc etc

 

Fact is, the people of the World love Frozen, and with many a good reason. Japan is the last country to get it, and they get it this coming Friday. Then they'll get to enjoy it as much as the rest of us have.

[Dutchess]

Nope. It's overhyped as heck. I wish I could get a refund.

 

It might be a little overhyped, but it's still not a bad movie by any means. It's enjoyable to watch to say the least. Beyond that I guess it's a matter of taste how good one thinks it is.

[Mr.House]

Poor Japan, they won't be spared another crappy Hollywood flick.

[LPPrince]

It might be a little overhyped, but it's still not a bad movie by any means. It's enjoyable to watch to say the least. Beyond that I guess it's a matter of taste how good one thinks it is.

 

I wouldn't call it overhyped. Perhaps for some, but for most they end up enjoying it and it lived up to expectations. Many a person came in here and said as much, and I convinced a friend to give it a go and she felt so bad she hadn't watched it earlier.

 

This movie is ice cold awesome.

[Mr.House]

I wouldn't call it overhyped. Perhaps for some, but for most they end up enjoying it and it lived up to expectations. Many a person came in here and said as much, and I convinced a friend to give it a go and she felt so bad she hadn't watched it earlier.

 

This movie is ice cold awesome.

Nah it's just cold. Cold, boring and lifeless.

[LPPrince]

The populace says otherwise.

[Gravisanimi]

Ey, even Frozen's getting aggressive opinionated hate?

 

I enjoyed the movie, quite a lot.

 

I watched it due to my own original curiosity and the praise this thread gave it, and I was right in my desire to watch it. If you can't recognize that people can enjoy something you don't without them being excrement incarnate, I have no wish to give you an audience, m'kay?

 

However, if you would like to discuss why you thought the movie was bad, like actual reasons, not nit-picks, I would be glad to do so. I like opinions, but not aggressive ones, they tend to stifle independent thought and create stagnation.

 

For instance, I actually kind of liked how the ad campaign didn't match with what we got. It let me know the movie existed and what kinds of things are going to be in it, without giving me too much of a peek into what's inside. Gave me the drive to see what was they were going to give me.

[LPPrince]

Dude, popular things always get hate. Usually just because they're popular. Some things earn the derision or distaste-This movie? Not one of those.

[Fast Jimmy]

Dude, popular things always get hate. Usually just because they're popular. Some things earn the derision or distaste-This movie? Not one of those.

...so... better than Drop Dead Fred, then?

[LPPrince]

...so... better than Drop Dead Fred, then?

 

Ask Caleb Denecour.

[Fast Jimmy]

I don't associate with screen lookers!

[EarthboundNess]

Elsa, once again using her powers for evil.

 

[LPPrince]

Would high five

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

[EarthboundNess]

Would high five

 

But... evil!

 

Frozen 2 will be about Anna getting her own powers, and will communicate with the fanbase like 'let it go' did by showing her fight the oppression of older sisters.

 

[LPPrince]

Dude, if Anna gets powers in a sequel, I'm gonna be bored.

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

Frozen 2 will be about Elsa getting a boyfriend I'd put money on it.

[LPPrince]

Even more boring.

[EarthboundNess]

It will involve at least one of those two terrible ideas. Guaranteed. 

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

Or maybe both.

Even more boring.

You say boring, but getting a boyfriend was a major part of Anna's story arc in frozen.

[Dutchess]

Spoiler

No, her love wasn't hidden in the background, but what was were her powers. Growing up, Elsa was taught only to suppress them and keep her abilities under wraps. She was never encouraged to decipher the ins and outs of her powers, so she'd never have worked out the role emotions play on them during her childhood, albeit that which the troll king told her about fear. Sure, she loved Anna, and probably her parents and her pet cat Fiddles, but what good is that when she avoids using her abilities at all costs because she herself is afraid of them?

 

On another point, her emotional state during let it go seemed to give her plenty of control. (She built a freakin' castle, after all.) The eternal winter covering Arendelle is a remnant from her previous emotional state, one she is unaware until Anna tells her and she once again panics, and therefore can't correct her mistake at that time. From that point on she's flung into a myriad of high strung situations, hardly given any time to work out how to sort out Arendelle.

So your'e probably right that love isn't a flawless explanation, but it is the ideal emotional state for her to grasp her powers, being an equilibrium as I mentioned in my previous post, though it isn't the only beneficial emotion as the let it go scene shows. And this is alongside the fact (and here's the important bit) that she's actually allowing herself to use them in conjunction with a positive emotion, instead of quashing them entirely through fear, (following the accident and up to the coronation) or being ruled by panic (escaping Arendelle and Anna telling her of the town's fate)

 

Thank you. Your interpretations do make sense. I think the writers struggled a bit with a quick solution to the deep and difficult problem they created for Elsa. The whole movie is about the unpredictability of her powers, and then near the end they still had all this snow and ice but they needed a happy ending. I think it would have worked better if they had given Elsa a moment to reflect on her powers and the problems she was having, why she was able to build a beautiful palace but lost control afterwards again, and then have her realize that it were her fears that were causing her trouble. She could connect this back to what the troll king had told her years ago, and BAM! Solution! Love! No fear! Yay! I feel a little extra step would have prevented it from feeling as rushed as it did when I first saw it.

 

I wouldn't call it overhyped. Perhaps for some, but for most they end up enjoying it and it lived up to expectations. Many a person came in here and said as much, and I convinced a friend to give it a go and she felt so bad she hadn't watched it earlier.

 

This movie is ice cold awesome.

 

Sorry, I should have nuanced it more. I feel it's overhyped when it's presented as: "omg, best Disney movie EVER!!!". While it can certainly be the favorite movie for some (or many) it is hardly a universal truth that this movie leaves everything else in its shadow. That is not an insult to Frozen, but a compliment to the many amazing things Disney has created. This thread and all the hype really had me expecting something that would make everything else pale in comparison, but in the end it did not rise above gems like Tarzan, Mulan, The Hunchback of Notre Dame or Tangled (I can't decide which would be my favorite ), imo. My main gripes are that I had hoped for a few more funny moments, and the slight rush of the ending.

 

 

 

By the way, that little comic is hilarious. So that's where Pipi came from!

[LPPrince]

Another thing- be liberal with spoiler tags.

 

Spoiler

They are fun.

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

Don't get me wrong Frozen is good, but the whole story could have been avoided if Elsa's parents had have gotten someone to teach Elsa to control her power instead of hiding her away, Elsa and Anna's parents are failures at being parents.

[LPPrince]

Elsa and Anna's parents are failures at being parents.

 

If that's the case, 95% to 100% of humanity is terrible at being parents. :/

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

I won't disagree