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[Bushido Effect]

Been a long time since I logged in here.  This place still looks the same! Is BSN gonna get a new site makeover later?  Because I got a popup msg stating changes once I signed in.  Anyway OT... 

I imported a Shep of mine from ME2 to 3, and playing to see the things I missed, scenes, romances etc. But I need help on the romance thing.  I had Liara in ME1, then did Miranda in ME2.   So this time when I met Miranda the first time, I turned her down because I presumed it would kill my chance of getting back to Liara in 3.  Once I did, she cried!  Never saw that scene.  I felt a bit bad.   So even after meeting her all 3 times, she dies at Horizon. 


So I need to know can you still save Miranda while going back to your ME1 lover? if so how?  When/where do I talk to Liara?  Early in the game I spoke to her in her office and she asked for reassurance about the relationship.  This was before meeting Miranda IIRC.   

thanks.

Modifié par Bushido Effect, 06 janvier 2014 - 04:40 .

[DeinonSlayer]

Nope. Break up with her in ME3 and she dies. Mirimancers actually get quite angry about it. I'm not certain if she survives if you break up in ME2, though.

[Bushido Effect]

^^ oh no...

So if I pick the nice option when first meeting her, I can never get back with Liara and the game locks her out as a option?

[MassivelyEffective0730]

You can't.

Break up with Miranda in ME3, you're SOL mate.

Don't know why you'd want to though.

[Darks1d3]

I think there's a bug to help you out. I've never done it myself though.
 
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/17732985

Read the 6th post in the first page. It may or may not work for you however.

Modifié par Darks1d3, 06 janvier 2014 - 04:45 .

[David7204]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Nope. Break up with her in ME3 and she dies. Mirimancers actually get quite angry about it. I'm not certain if she survives if you break up in ME2, though.

See, I speak on behalf of romances not affecting content outside of romance. I speak in defense of these people so they don't have to face frustrations like this. And pretty much the only responses I get are shrieking that I hate role-playing.

Well, for the most part. There's generally a few people who comment positively. And besides, it is the BSN after all. Not like I expect much better.

Modifié par David7204, 06 janvier 2014 - 04:48 .

[McFlurry598]

Liara doesn't do that...js

[Bushido Effect]

Well darn it. I was hoping to have a full crew for the Citadel party. Now I have to do it again.

@David. So is Miranda the only romance that does that? as in affecting things in the game outside of the relationship.

[David7204]

Bushido Effect wrote...

Well darn it. I was hoping to have a full crew for the Citadel party. Now I have to do it again.

@David. So is Miranda the only romance that does that? as in affecting things in the game outside of the relationship.

Yeah, she is. Thankfully.

[Cainhurst Crow]

Made miranda cry? You deserve a medal.

[AlanC9]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Nope. Break up with her in ME3 and she dies. Mirimancers actually get quite angry about it. I'm not certain if she survives if you break up in ME2, though.

Why would a Mirimancer break up with her?

[SilJeff]

Even if you keep Miranda romanced, you can also do a non-Miranda mass effect 3 romance

Does anyone know if romancing someone other than Miranda will make her die no matter what? I did a talimance a long time ago, so I can't remember

[Nitrocuban]

Don't break up with her and just start or continue another relationship. She won't die.

[Sir DeLoria]

Why would you choose blueberry over Miranda?

Anyway, if you break up with Miri after the suicide mission, she won't die in ME3.

[Sir DeLoria]

AlanC9 wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Nope. Break up with her in ME3 and she dies. Mirimancers actually get quite angry about it. I'm not certain if she survives if you break up in ME2, though.

Why would a Mirimancer break up with her?

They're just angry that breaking up with her in ME3 results in guaranteed death, it's not about the own choice, it's about the principle I guess.

[Maximillion46]

Nitrocuban wrote...

Don't break up with her and just start or continue another relationship. She won't die.

I'm guessing Nitrocuban is referring to this that I found the mass effect wiki:

'If you break off a romance with her during Mass Effect 3 she will
also die, regardless of whether you did both her loyalty mission and
warned her of Kai Leng. Breaking off a romance during Mass Effect 2,
even at the very end before importing the save, will not result in her
death. A romanced Miranda will also survive if you have "locked in"
another romance before the apartment scene - only an explicit on-camera
breakup leads to death.
'

So you could hook up with Liara or another love interest before meeting with Miranda I'm guessing. Though saving before you meet her is never a bad idea.

Check the link for all prerequisites for Miranda surviving (or dying):
http://masseffect.wi...iority:_Horizon

Modifié par Maximillion46, 06 janvier 2014 - 02:01 .

[Obadiah]

@Bushido Effect
My understanding is that if you don't break up with Miranda in that first encounter, and then lock in the romance with Liara post Citadel attack, then Miranda won't automatically die on Horizon, and you can have the romance with Liara. Never done it myself though.

[Hazegurl]

Bushido Effect wrote...

Been a long time since I logged in here.  This place still looks the same! Is BSN gonna get a new site makeover later?  Because I got a popup msg stating changes once I signed in.  Anyway OT... 

I imported a Shep of mine from ME2 to 3, and playing to see the things I missed, scenes, romances etc. But I need help on the romance thing.  I had Liara in ME1, then did Miranda in ME2.   So this time when I met Miranda the first time, I turned her down because I presumed it would kill my chance of getting back to Liara in 3.  Once I did, she cried!  Never saw that scene.  I felt a bit bad.   So even after meeting her all 3 times, she dies at Horizon. 


So I need to know can you still save Miranda while going back to your ME1 lover? if so how?  When/where do I talk to Liara?  Early in the game I spoke to her in her office and she asked for reassurance about the relationship.  This was before meeting Miranda IIRC.   

thanks.

I don't know if it will work for Liara. But when I romance Miranda in ME2 and Kaidan in ME3. I just never break up with Miranda. I still lock down the romance with Kaidan later at the Citadel and everything works fine albeit there is a bit of flirting between Shepard and Miranda at the Citadel party. But yeah, if you want Miranda to live just don't dump her.

I'm currently trying the same thing with Jack and Kaidan. Romanced her in ME2, lockdown a romance with Kaidan at the Citadel, then met Jack and told her I wanted to be with her. So far everyone is acknowledging Shepard and Kaidan's relationship. I hope I get that tattoo from Jack.

Modifié par Hazegurl, 06 janvier 2014 - 02:18 .

[jtav]

AlanC9 wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Nope. Break up with her in ME3 and she dies. Mirimancers actually get quite angry about it. I'm not certain if she survives if you break up in ME2, though.

Why would a Mirimancer break up with her?

I don't know how typical I am as a Miranda fan (not very, I suspect) but one of the reasons I picked her on my MShep runs was that her romance was fairly low-pressure. Just two adults having fun. Less momentous than Jack or Tali, but also less stressful. The death makes her need Shepard in a way she didn't before, which makes her less appealing. And as a player, I like to keep my options open. My last FShep decided she'd be happier with Sam than Garrus and nobody died. I don't feel like I have the same freedom with MShep.

[Bushido Effect]

Maximillion46 wrote...

Nitrocuban wrote...

Don't break up with her and just start or continue another relationship. She won't die.

I'm guessing Nitrocuban is referring to this that I found the mass effect wiki:

'If you break off a romance with her during Mass Effect 3 she will
also die, regardless of whether you did both her loyalty mission and
warned her of Kai Leng. Breaking off a romance during Mass Effect 2,
even at the very end before importing the save, will not result in her
death. A romanced Miranda will also survive if you have "locked in"
another romance before the apartment scene - only an explicit on-camera
breakup leads to death.
'

So you could hook up with Liara or another love interest before meeting with Miranda I'm guessing. Though saving before you meet her is never a bad idea.

Check the link for all prerequisites for Miranda surviving (or dying):
http://masseffect.wi...iority:_Horizon

Ah that sounds pretty clear.  Thanks :happy:

But I wanted to get this out of the way. Hapapened very early, don't want to mess up and restart again..
confused about a scenario with Liara:

after Mars and when you get back to the Normandy, When I talked to her in her office for the first time and shows me her equipment, she says something like "before we move on... I know you and miranda were close" and asks if you still want her or not. If you say no right there, will the option to get close to her be gone at the second conversation? -The one on the citadel commons when she talks about her childhood and mother.

or will it still be there and you can romance her all over again?  FYI I made sure this time to NOT speak to Miranda the 3rd time as per the posts here.  She's still waiting in the apartment.

[Maximillion46]

Locking in with Liara T'Soni: When she is leaning against the rail near the Meridian Place Market in the Presidium Commons portion of the Citadel.

For all I know, as long as you don't do someone's lock-in conversation, you can do anything you want. Even if that turns out to be wrong, Liara is apparently very easy to lock-in a romance with, even if you cheated on her and/or rarely talked to her.

If you import a Kelly-on-the-side-romance, lock her in first. Won't have any effect on your other romances, even if Liara talks about it (the Shadow Broker knows everything!)... but you can't lock her in second.


Ignore the rest, or not^^ it's funny and maybe useful.

I'm pretty sure your 'second conversation' is the lock-in conversation. So if you talk to her and don't do the lock-in options... I guess you lock out? I actually 'locked out' all possible romances once before talking to the LI I chose. I do think that if you have the lock-in conversation and you don't 'go for it', you 'call it off' so to speak.

Can't imagine that after that conversation they're gonna give you a retry conversation (ME2 basically had you redoing the same conversation with Tali and Jack over and over again untill you affirmed (after breaking up with the LI you hooked up with first); never tried making a love triangle, yikes; in ME1, it was an accident xD).

[Hazegurl]

Finished with my play through of romancing Kaidan and Jack. It was interesting. Got my tattoo by Jack but took my pic looking at Kaidan. Jack on the other hand was a bodyless head on the arm of the sofa. lol! Woke up next to Jack at the end. Don't think I'll try that again. With Miranda, although I kept the relationship with her and romanced Kaidan the game pretty much treated us like we were broken up aside from a bit of flirtatious dialogue at the party.