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[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

Riverdaleswhiteflash wrote...

chop

1.wow two successful spells wow very impresive maybe when they will fight with blind pesants they will win:devil:.
And as i said mages very hefty lost with physical human attributes... weak

They were losing to superior numbers of people with anti-magical abilities, due partially to not having armor on and partially to the fact that they didn't bother trying to fight back.

2.Nope im not using gameplay but mages are just weak when compare to other fantasy worlds where they are respected and feared because they are powerful not because they are demon magnets... They were killed like pesants so well i can compare them and well this is power not when oponet who have human attributes crushes you like nothing thats not power that is just pathetic...

You need to stop thinking of power as "You're either a god or completely human." That's your main stumbling block here, that you can't comprehend that someone can be more powerful than an ordinary human without being able to tank a sword to the kidney. In that context, it makes perfect sense for people who have superior numbers to win against you, especially when if they actually started losing they could have pulled out the anti-magic. It doesn't mean they're not powerful, it just means they're not world breakingly powerful.

3.Uldred , anders , orsino , some of magisters , marethari , wynne ,rhys (well if lamber was right) , baroness.

and i said it is luck based test you might end with pride demon or just rage demon but that doesn't mean that you won't end as victim of stronger demon like pride or just fall to your flaw like for example you might not fall to pride demon but you may fall to desire demon or sloth...  

Marethari wasn't Harrowed, though. Though I'll grant that she was still well educated enough to know better.

The Baroness apparently wasn't possessed, either. She apparently became a Pride Demon. Gaider knows how that worked. And Wynne wasn't possessed by an actual demon. The rest of them I'll give you.

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

4.Yep pretty much shows that she is idiot only plot armor protected her from becoming abomnation for all this years.

It shows that she has some idea that she's in danger of becoming a danger. That's pretty much the opposite of you interpretation.

5.well point proved 

Yes.

6.if you say so... 

All I'm saying is that there's a case.

7.point proven.

I'm not disputing this one.

Modifié par Riverdaleswhiteflash, 12 janvier 2014 - 04:05 .

[TheKomandorShepard]

MasterScribe wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

Doesn't matter as i pointed above she was their creation no keeper no velanna that same for every circle mage who caused damage thats why im for "kill them all" solution.

Besides being immoral (which you don't care about), your "solution" is completely impractical.

You would need to find every mage that is currently alive and every mage that will ever be born (who can be born to non-mage parents, by the way).

You might as well destroy the entire planet, which is a ridiculous notion.

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

Lanaya is naive and idealistic it will quickly be shattered by severe and cynical setting like thedas.

Ha. The Dalish have been dealing with this crappy human-dominated society for centuries. They will survive it.

Well why it is impractical if you have unstable bomb in your house you want defuse it not play with it...

i pointed that in other my topic with providing anti-mage laws and practices...
And as i pointed da is cynical world when lanaya is naive , young and idealistic sooner or latter her idealism will burn out and will end like loghain or zathrian as hate shell... they might survive but well as who. 

Riverdaleswhiteflash wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

Riverdaleswhiteflash wrote...

chop

1.wow two successful spells wow very impresive maybe when they will fight with blind pesants they will win[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/devil.png[/smilie].
And as i said mages very hefty lost with physical human attributes... weak

They
were losing to superior numbers of people with anti-magical abilities,
due partially to not having armor on and partially to the fact that they
didn't bother trying to fight back.

2.Nope im not
using gameplay but mages are just weak when compare to other fantasy
worlds where they are respected and feared because they are powerful not
because they are demon magnets... They were killed like pesants so well
i can compare them and well this is power not when oponet who have human attributes crushes you like nothing thats not power that is just pathetic...

You
need to stop thinking of power as "You're either a god or completely
human." That's your main stumbling block here, that you can't comprehend
that someone can be more powerful than an ordinary human without being
able to tank a sword to the kidney. In that context, it makes perfect
sense for people who have superior numbers to win against you,
especially when if they actually started losing they could have pulled
out the anti-magic. It doesn't mean they're not powerful, it just means
they're not world breakingly powerful.

3.Uldred , anders , orsino , some of magisters , marethari , wynne ,rhys (well if lamber was right) , baroness.

and
i said it is luck based test you might end with pride demon or just
rage demon but that doesn't mean that you won't end as victim of
stronger demon like pride or just fall to your flaw like for example you
might not fall to pride demon but you may fall to desire demon or
sloth...  

Marethari wasn't Harrowed, though. Though I'll grant that she was still well educated enough to know better.

The
Baroness apparently wasn't possessed, either. She apparently became a
Pride Demon. Gaider knows how that worked. And Wynne wasn't possessed by
an actual demon. The rest of them I'll give you.

1.As i said templars win only with tactic and their physical attributes and well they were fighting so... 

2.Well as i said being more powerful than pesant is hardly achievement and i don't mean juggernaut just typical powerful magic where they can kill rly many enemies with it...

3.How she wasn't possessed she was human that was possesed then wanted pull typical abomnation "haha i will rule the world but i will burn it".Wynne was like anders with spirit still possession as shown in asunder when she pulls anders.

Modifié par TheKomandorShepard, 12 janvier 2014 - 04:02 .

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

Well why it is impractical if you have unstable bomb in your house you want defuse it not play with it...

Sheer logistical impossibility. There are a whole bunch of Circle mages, a whole bunch of apostates, and whole countries that would oppose this. The Tevinter would resist any attempt to do this to their mages, and if you don't have mages in your army they will crush it. One thing I specifically remember you not disputing is that blood magic is fracking terrifying. And the Qunari would be ticked off at you if you tried this with them, despite seeing your point.

Edit: Oh, and the Wardens would go to the mattresses if you came after theirs.

i pointed that in other my topic with providing anti-mage laws and practices...
And as i pointed da is cynical world when lanaya is naive , young and idealistic sooner or latter her idealism will burn out and will end like loghain or zathrian as hate shell... they might survive but well as who. 

That's a scary thought.

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

1.As i said templars win only with tactic and their physical attributes and well they were fighting so...

A bare fraction of them were fighting. None of them had armor. Tactics, physical attributes, a

2.Well as i said being more powerful than pesant is hardly achievement and i don't mean juggernaut just typical powerful magic where they can kill rly many enemies with it... 

The ones who were fighting were matching the Templars one to one. That's a bit more than being more powerful than a peasant.

3.How she wasn't possessed she was human that was possesed then wanted pull typical abomnation "haha i will rule the world but i will burn it".

Because she apparently became a demon rather than being possessed by one. Though I'll grant that it's a relatively unimportant distinction.

Wynne was like anders with spirit still possession as shown in asunder when she pulls anders. 

Could you be more specific? I haven't read that one.

Modifié par Riverdaleswhiteflash, 12 janvier 2014 - 04:11 .

[TheKomandorShepard]

Riverdaleswhiteflash wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

Well why it is impractical if you have unstable bomb in your house you want defuse it not play with it...

Sheer logistical impossibility. There are a whole bunch of Circle mages, a whole bunch of apostates, and whole countries that would oppose this. The Tevinter would resist any attempt to do this to their mages, and if you don't have mages in your army they will crush it. One thing I specifically remember you not disputing is that blood magic is fracking terrifying. And the Qunari would be ticked off at you if you tried this with them, despite seeing your point.

Edit: Oh, and the Wardens would go to the mattresses if you came after theirs.

i pointed that in other my topic with providing anti-mage laws and practices...
And as i pointed da is cynical world when lanaya is naive , young and idealistic sooner or latter her idealism will burn out and will end like loghain or zathrian as hate shell... they might survive but well as who. 

That's a scary thought.

1.Not rly mages can be killed ROA proves that and as i said i will want change system.For more you need fish for my comments in mage-templars topic.As i pointed da world don't have much problem with genocide against hated groups like elves or mages nation will agree.And i pointed that i don't care about tev (well at least now) if they will cross borders they will be hunted by new anti-magical order and harsh laws strengthened by fear , hate and greed (well anti-magical system).

2.Well dark fantasy spares no one sure da isn't berserk but yet rather crapsack world.

Modifié par TheKomandorShepard, 12 janvier 2014 - 04:10 .

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

Riverdaleswhiteflash wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

Well why it is impractical if you have unstable bomb in your house you want defuse it not play with it...

Sheer logistical impossibility. There are a whole bunch of Circle mages, a whole bunch of apostates, and whole countries that would oppose this. The Tevinter would resist any attempt to do this to their mages, and if you don't have mages in your army they will crush it. One thing I specifically remember you not disputing is that blood magic is fracking terrifying. And the Qunari would be ticked off at you if you tried this with them, despite seeing your point.

Edit: Oh, and the Wardens would go to the mattresses if you came after theirs.

i pointed that in other my topic with providing anti-mage laws and practices...
And as i pointed da is cynical world when lanaya is naive , young and idealistic sooner or latter her idealism will burn out and will end like loghain or zathrian as hate shell... they might survive but well as who. 

That's a scary thought.

1.Not rly mages can be killed ROA proves that and as i said i will want change system.

You have no sense of scale, do you? Mages are a sizable minority: I don't think they're a tenth of the population but if the Templars can't get them all (and they provably can't) then what makes you think you can? And there are some protected by the nobility, some who are the nobility (though they keep quiet about this) and some in the Wardens.

For more you need fish for my comments in mage-templars topic.

Give me the tl:dr of what you want, and I will carefully explain to you why... it cannot be.

As i pointed da world don't have much problem with genocide against hated groups like elves or mages nation will agree.And i pointed that i don't care about tev (well at least now) if they will cross borders they will be hunted by new anti-magical order and harsh laws strengthened by fear , hate and greed (well anti-magical system).

And your plan for when a non-mage Warden crawls out from under your bed and attempts to place your own pillow over your face?

Modifié par Riverdaleswhiteflash, 12 janvier 2014 - 04:15 .

[TheKomandorShepard]

Riverdaleswhiteflash wrote...

And your plan for when a non-mage Warden crawls out from under your bed and attempts to place your own pillow over your mouth?

You can kill divine but chantry will stand you need do more than that to abolish system , besides grey wardens have to be netural to not ****** off others.Well if the warden survived sleeping in tent when 90 % things in ferelden wanted to kill him i doubt that my pc will have problem with that.Most non-mages in world know that mages are dangerous and will belive if you tell them it is necessary.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

Riverdaleswhiteflash wrote...

And your plan for when a non-mage Warden crawls out from under your bed and attempts to place your own pillow over your mouth?

You can kill divine but chantry will stand you need do more than that to abolish system , besides grey wardens have to be netural to not ****** off others.

If you demand they hand over all Warden mages for execution, I promise they will make an exception. Or have you forgotten that mages are of assistance with the Joining (or flatly necessary, this is rather ambigous), and against darkspawn emisairries?

Well if the warden survived sleeping in tent when 90 % things in ferelden wanted to kill him i doubt that my pc will have problem with that.Most non-mages in world know that mages are dangerous and will belive if you tell them it is necessary.

They also think they know that the Wardens are necessary to end the Blights (partially because it's true), and the most recent one did nothing to weaken this impression. In the context of the last one being so very recent, you will not win any PR contest against them no matter what prejudice you invoke. Not that I think you'll be allowed to attempt this, for this very reason.

Modifié par Riverdaleswhiteflash, 12 janvier 2014 - 04:25 .

[TheKomandorShepard]

My solution is easy and practical kill mages...
And before you will say that won't solve problem because of new-born mages i will explain my solution...

First
is get rid of chantry and current templars why many of them is
corrupted ,many of them is brainwashed into chantry hypocritical morals
and some of them is too soft... (of course first they need kill each
other wirh current mages)

Next step is creating new order
anti-mages that is independent but country where they are woking have to
pay them for hunting mages.Order will train new anti-mages when they
are childrens taught them to be complete ruthlessness toward mages and
extremely dedicated to their job also trening will be much more
exhausting to deal with mages.

another step is changing the law
now any mages will be hunted down and killed and anyone helping them
will be heavily punished and if someone will help caputre mage will be
rewarded.Now new anti-magical organisation instead watch mages what
don't work and consumes only resources and time will focused in 100 % on
hunting mages and killing them.      

And now you are probably
try save yourself with argument that mages are needed but as far only
for grey warden joining so i m ready give grey wardens few mages but on
very restrictive conditions. They are imprisoned and watched in rare
cases like blight they are allowed to work in the field but still
watched.   

Well thats my comment on first page here also some bombarded me with questions that i answered in another comments but if you have some ask.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

My solution is easy and practical kill mages...
And before you will say that won't solve problem because of new-born mages i will explain my solution...

First
is get rid of chantry and current templars why many of them is
corrupted ,many of them is brainwashed into chantry hypocritical morals
and some of them is too soft... (of course first they need kill each
other wirh current mages)

With you so far.

Next step is creating new order
anti-mages that is independent but country where they are woking have to
pay them for hunting mages.Order will train new anti-mages when they
are childrens taught them to be complete ruthlessness toward mages and
extremely dedicated to their job also trening will be much more
exhausting to deal with mages.

The mages have no incentive to cooperate with this group, then? That's not the main problem here, but it's one way for this not to end well.

another step is changing the law
now any mages will be hunted down and killed and anyone helping them
will be heavily punished and if someone will help caputre mage will be
rewarded.Now new anti-magical organisation instead watch mages what
don't work and consumes only resources and time will focused in 100 % on
hunting mages and killing them.

This will end with a whole lot of dead false positives, and I don't see you getting all the actual mages either.

And now you are probably
try save yourself with argument that mages are needed but as far only
for grey warden joining so i m ready give grey wardens few mages but on
very restrictive conditions. They are imprisoned and watched in rare
cases like blight they are allowed to work in the field but still
watched.

It's not just the Blights that require this. Theoretically any emisarry or ogre attack could call for mages. And where are they going to get the mages if you don't allow any to exist out in society? And this will leave the countries under the Inquisition's control open to Tevinter attack. Plus, unless you side with the Qunari (who will not allow you to do this, since they actually use mages) they'll see that you're vulnerable and come on down south too.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Riverdaleswhiteflash wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

My solution is easy and practical kill mages...
And before you will say that won't solve problem because of new-born mages i will explain my solution...

First
is get rid of chantry and current templars why many of them is
corrupted ,many of them is brainwashed into chantry hypocritical morals
and some of them is too soft... (of course first they need kill each
other wirh current mages)

With you so far.

Next step is creating new order
anti-mages that is independent but country where they are woking have to
pay them for hunting mages.Order will train new anti-mages when they
are childrens taught them to be complete ruthlessness toward mages and
extremely dedicated to their job also trening will be much more
exhausting to deal with mages.

The mages have no incentive to cooperate with this group, then? That's not the main problem here, but it's one way for this not to end well.

another step is changing the law
now any mages will be hunted down and killed and anyone helping them
will be heavily punished and if someone will help caputre mage will be
rewarded.Now new anti-magical organisation instead watch mages what
don't work and consumes only resources and time will focused in 100 % on
hunting mages and killing them.

This will end with a whole lot of dead false positives, and I don't see you getting all the actual mages either.

And now you are probably
try save yourself with argument that mages are needed but as far only
for grey warden joining so i m ready give grey wardens few mages but on
very restrictive conditions. They are imprisoned and watched in rare
cases like blight they are allowed to work in the field but still
watched.

It's not just the Blights that require this. Theoretically any emisarry or ogre attack could call for mages. And where are they going to get the mages if you don't allow any to exist out in society? And this will leave the countries under the Inquisition's control open to Tevinter attack. Plus, unless you side with the Qunari (who will not allow you to do this, since they actually use mages) they'll see that you're vulnerable and come on down south too.

1.That is way to success and prosperity of new organisation.

2.Well mages don't need cooperate all they must to do is die.Only cooperation is required from civilians (that shouldn't be too hard) and country (that might be more problematic but still not imposible)

3.All mages not but huge procent of them what should be enough they won't be able to live in societes too much risk so well good luck in flemeth hut:devil: and well they will fall too small in numbers to do something about it.

4.Not rly for first anti-magical warrior should be good for second good warden should be sufficient.Not rly i have anti-mages and well almost entire continet tev can't do much they have also war with qunari and well i have tev and entire continent against qunari i don't even mention that technology will start move on without mages and chantry... 

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

1.That is way to success and prosperity of new organisation.

I suppose.

2.Well mages don't need cooperate all they must to do is die.Only cooperation is required from civilians (that shouldn't be too hard) and country (that might be more problematic but still not imposible)

An uncooperative mage could end with a few deaths. Besides the one you want, I mean. Not to mention that civilian cooperation is hardly a given. Cullen mentions that the civilians were as likely to slam a door in his face as help him.

3.All mages not but huge procent of them what should be enough they won't be able to live in societes too much risk so well good luck in flemeth hut:devil: and well they will fall too small in numbers to do something about it.

Mages are quite capable of living in society as it is, and summary execution is already the norm for apostates past a certain age. You're not making it all that much more dangerous for a large segment of existing apostates.

4.Not rly for first anti-magical warrior should be good for second good warden should be sufficient.

Those things can be huge. An entire team of good Wardens is what you want. Or one mage.

Not rly i have anti-mages and well almost entire continet tev can't do much they have also war with qunari and well i have tev and entire continent against qunari i don't even mention that technology will start move on without mages and chantry... 

That's not really a given. Besides, if it does happen it will be too slow. The Qunari already have that technology, remember?

[Rotward]

AresKeith wrote...

Rassler wrote...

Stop pretending the circle is a solution, its quite cruel and unhuman but feel free, its your game.

And stop pretending the Kirkwall Circle is the norm for every circle

It's the norm of some circles. We did encounter people claiming that there were worse circles still. The fact of the matter is, a solution with no oversight will inevitably become worse than the original problem. 

mx_keep13 wrote...

@Rassler you're applying the terrible state of one circle to all. The only thing that happens in all circles is children being taken away after birth. That isnt terrible, the children are raised and cared for by the chantry most likely.

Kidnapping children from their parents is a federal offence. Don't kid yourself. 

Modifié par Rotward, 12 janvier 2014 - 05:29 .

[Han Shot First]

There is but one path...

Alright, now who is with me?!

Modifié par Han Shot First, 12 janvier 2014 - 05:52 .

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Han Shot First wrote...

There is but one path...

Alright, now who is with me?!

Everyone in Thedas who is incapable of recongizing scale.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Rotward wrote...

Kidnapping children from their parents is a federal offence. Don't kid yourself. 

It's also a right delegated to the states. You can argue if you want that it's not justified here, but it's quite manifestly justified in some cases.

[AlexanderCousland]

1. Magic doesn't manifest itself until after Puberty. Templar's are not hunting down Toddlers people.
2. The Circle is a place for Mage's with great potential, like elite universities (Harvard, Brown, Yale) your average citizen could likely be an apostate lacking the magical prowess to even warrant attention from the Templars.
3. All circles are different, going to Stanford U is not the same as going to Cal State. Kirkwall circle is like Penn State Football, and Meredith is Jerry Sandusky.
4. Pro Circle Mage's exist, Vivienne for example. Tevinter Nobility LOVES THE CIRCLE.

[dragonflight288]

FreshIstay wrote...

1. Magic doesn't manifest itself until after Puberty. Templar's are not hunting down Toddlers people.
2. The Circle is a place for Mage's with great potential, like elite universities (Harvard, Brown, Yale) your average citizen could likely be an apostate lacking the magical prowess to even warrant attention from the Templars.
3. All circles are different, going to Stanford U is not the same as going to Cal State. Kirkwall circle is like Penn State Football, and Meredith is Jerry Sandusky.
4. Pro Circle Mage's exist, Vivienne for example. Tevinter Nobility LOVES THE CIRCLE.

1. Not always. Sometimes a mages talents appear around 8-9 years of age.

2. And even non-mages can be killed by default by templars, like that con-man who pretended to be a healer, and was executed by templars on the spot because they thought he was an apostate, even though he had no magical talent whatsoever.

3. And all Circle's are different because the standards of templars (and thus mages) are held at different places based entirely on who the Knight Commander is. There is no set standard.

4. And Finn from Witch Hunt....mainly because he absolutely hated being outdoors and was constantly complaining about mud, mosquitoes, and how much he hated exercise.

[Han Shot First]

Riverdaleswhiteflash wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

There is but one path...

Alright, now who is with me?!

Everyone in Thedas who is incapable of recongizing scale.

Both the Mage Circles and the Templars represent comparitively small factions.

Cleansing Orlais of both would be a bit like the King of France having decided to not just get rid of the Templars, but also the Hospitallers. It could be done.

In any case I was joking. I plan to only have my Inquisitor eliminate rebelling mages and Templars that go beyond their mandate to protect both the mages in their care and the people of Thedas. No harm will fall to Mages or Templars who aren't looking to buck the system.

[eyesheild21]

There is but one choice and that is to go Spartacus on them.   "Kill Them All"

[OctagonalSquare]

1.) Secularize the Templars and make lyrium regulation a gov't thing. In fact, stop the lyrium bull**** and see if it REALLY has an effect of Templar abilities. Templars can be religious, but overly dogmatic people should be ineligible. Also, Templars who abuse mages will be discharged and tried.

2.) Mages may visit family every X months, years, etc. (amount decided by local laws). They are free to leave and live outside the Circle at X yrs. of age (again, set by local laws; max of 25). Maybe have a few Templars check up on them every so often.

3.) Fringe magics (shapeshifting, blood magic, etc.) should be researched like other schools of magic. However, blood magic should be handled carefully. This will make Circles more focused on learning than imprisonment and restriction.

4.) Don't punish apostates so harshly, and leave witches, Dalish, etc. alone as long as they stay away from cities.

There are a few other things I could think of, but these would be the general changes I would make.

[Lulupab]

On my previous comment about harshness of circles I never meant mages should be completely free. I just said circles are not working, whatever might happen I can bet that there will be no such ending to bring back the old circles. I mean mages just rebelled to get out of it, to get back to it without gaining anything? Nope, not going to happen.

[Lord Raijin]

Rassler wrote...

I'd like to share some screenshots that shows how much of a prison the circle is and a reminder that people are held this way because of the way they are born, not something they've done, unlike normal prisons:









Couldn't agree more Anders.






Stop pretending the circle is a solution, its quite cruel and unhuman but feel free, its your game.

This my dear friend :happy: is the reason why the Templar's are losing support from the public. Even Cullen acknowledges this as a fact.

AresKeith wrote...

Rassler wrote...

Stop pretending the circle is a solution, its quite cruel and unhuman but feel free, its your game.

And stop pretending the Kirkwall Circle is the norm for every circle

Wynne was not part of the Kirkwall circle and the templar's kidnapped her newborn son. kidnapping babies from circle mages seems to be quite normal event.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Riverdaleswhiteflash wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

1.That is way to success and prosperity of new organisation.

I suppose.

2.Well mages don't need cooperate all they must to do is die.Only cooperation is required from civilians (that shouldn't be too hard) and country (that might be more problematic but still not imposible)

An uncooperative mage could end with a few deaths. Besides the one you want, I mean. Not to mention that civilian cooperation is hardly a given. Cullen mentions that the civilians were as likely to slam a door in his face as help him.

3.All mages not but huge procent of them what should be enough they won't be able to live in societes too much risk so well good luck in flemeth hut:devil: and well they will fall too small in numbers to do something about it.

Mages are quite capable of living in society as it is, and summary execution is already the norm for apostates past a certain age. You're not making it all that much more dangerous for a large segment of existing apostates.

4.Not rly for first anti-magical warrior should be good for second good warden should be sufficient.

Those things can be huge. An entire team of good Wardens is what you want. Or one mage.

Not rly i have anti-mages and well almost entire continet tev can't do much they have also war with qunari and well i have tev and entire continent against qunari i don't even mention that technology will start move on without mages and chantry... 

That's not really a given. Besides, if it does happen it will be too slow. The Qunari already have that technology, remember?

1.So then i order RoA of this chantry and every other (oh god i wish that i could say that in game with voice arnold:devil:)
2.Well still less damage is dead mage than this among living.About support as i said law that will use hate , fear and greed in once.So well any person that will help mage will be severely punished those who will help caputre mage will be rewarded and little propaganda that mages are evil or devilspawns would of course help.:whistle:So you are overestimating humans if you think that won't work... (and where were your supporters in da 2 outside cullen sentence?)

3.Not rly did i have mention templars can sense magic is someone (well something different about them) just only if they weren't stupid and trained properly they would use that.There is huge reason why most mages is imprisoned in circles...

4.Yes bethany shows how mage is good dealing with ogre... mages suck deal with that...

5.No want more qunari are dogmatic fools with set of rules and restrictions and if you are smart you can use this rules against them... of course that tehcnology will need time to develop but it will.Another matter is that you think that they will attack now besides mages suck that first thedas will unite against them (and i doubt that they can fight with entire continent) three use their principles against them unfettered person shouldn't have problem with that.  

[The Elder King]

@Octagonal Square: Gaider confirmed that lyrium is necessary, and Alistair in the comics stated he had to take lyrium to use again templar's abilities.

Modifié par hhh89, 12 janvier 2014 - 11:16 .

[Lotion Soronarr]

Do you even know the protocol that takes place once the Right of Annulment has been implemented on a Circle? It is not to quarantine the mages but to purge them all to restore order. That means that once R.o.A has been declare gives the Templar's full authorization to exterminate every single mage including children and the elderly.

I know. So?

A true quarantine process would be to take a mage and send him/her to the circle where they would undergo rigorous amount of tests to not only test their mental status but also their knowledge of the arcane arts of magic, and to see if they can resist demonic possession. Once they've passed these tests they should come out of quarantine and be allowed to be part of the society, not to be locked away and stunned by society.

The Circle is a quarantene.
The RoA is not - it's the final recourse if quarantene has failed. Once blood magic and demons run rampant, everyone inside the circle is basicly considered lost.