Rassler wrote...
Its so obvioys its not even funny. Evelina presented herself to the cricle but they branded her apostate and locked her up, didn't even let her send letters, possibily money to the children. So she escaped and we all know what happened next. It has EVERYTHING to do with the templars and how no one can survive in Kirkwall without licking templar boot. Stop blaming it on poverty, as evidence suggests Evelina was more than capable to feed them before she was locked up.
"You're fereldan, like us. But you feast on sweetmeats while your people starve in the Undercity. I spit on you traitor, and the pathetic Templars that sent you. Kirkwall should be mine, then my children would have a whole city to play in."That is what she says, she only mentions the Templars in a generic fashion. What lead her to become an Abomination were simple facts of life like poverty because living is bloody hard. It was not that she was being kept from her kids and needed power; she had already escaped. It was simply anger, resentment, jealousy and desperation caused by watching people like Hawke living in mansions while her kids were beggars.
And this is why mages can't be trusted with freedom; life presents hardships that have nothing to do with the Templars and there is always the chances mages will give in to temptation and become monsters like what happened with Evelina.
If a mage family suddenly ends up on the streets because of the same reasons that have placed others there? Should we worry they'll use mind control to gain money? Become Abominations?
You simply hate Anders too much, unable to see how grey his actions were. Someone who is more than willing to die for freedom of others can be named anything but selfish.
Anders is selfish. You support his actions; ok, I couldn't care less; I can see why some people would support them. But Anders is selfish.
Anders was not leading a group of people that agreed with him and wanted the same he did; he was a lone rebel who felt things had to change. And because of that, he selected the Circle of Kirkwall to become unwilling martyrs.
What if the mages would rather live in the Circle that be placed in a fight or die situation?
It didn't matter to him, things had to change.
What if the Templars would rather things stay as they are and not be order to Annul the Circle?
It didn't matter to him, things had to change.
What if the civilians did not wish to be caught in the crossfire?
It didn't matter, things had to change.
Ultimately, Anders did what he did because HE felt that the world couldn't stay as it was; HE thought he knew better than everyone how the world should and HE would drag everyone into this new world if he had to. And that is what makes him selfish because his actions were committed because of how HE felt, not because of what OTHERS wanted.
A person can be selfish even if their actions are done for the supposed benefit of others.
A truly selfless person would either gain the support of the people he claimed to wish to help or he would respect their wishes to remain in the Circle. He might believe they were being foolish and denying themselves a worthier life but a selfless person would put his feelings aside and do what others wanted for themselves, not what he thought they should want for themselves.
And that is why, ultimately, Anders is a selfish person. His cause may even be worthy to many; not to me; but that doesn't change the fact Anders is selfish.
Modifié par MisterJB, 13 janvier 2014 - 01:50 .
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