That doesn't change what it is. That only changes the legal status of the kidnapping.General TSAR wrote...
Also it's not kidnapping, the Chantry is well within its power to take any and all children born to mage parents within their Circles.
Modifié par General TSAR, 14 janvier 2014 - 07:52 .
Jaison1986 wrote...
TK514 wrote...
Lord Raijin wrote...
It's also very cruel to have the templars kidnap newborn babies from an already weaken mage. I mean how ethical is it to beat an already beaten down individual?
It's not kidnapping if it's legal, and what the Circles do is legal. And please don't try to say it isn't legal. They've been doing it openly for almost a thousand years. If it weren't legal, they'd have been brought to task by some soft hearted noble with the ear of a monarch and a love for ther poor mage relative long before the Dragon Age.
Legal on paper anyway. I might as well make an Inquisitor that change the law by punishing maker worshipers with an decaptation, and it would be completely alright because it's the law. Just because something is legal, it doesn't mean that it's acceptable.
Modifié par TK514, 14 janvier 2014 - 07:53 .
General TSAR wrote...
Banning Maker Worship = Rebellion by hundreds of thousands and Exalted March.
Taking a Mage Child from Mage parents = No effect whatsoever on the outside world minus the butthurt of the two parents.
Consequences of the actions are not even remotely the same.
Sylvius the Mad wrote...
That doesn't change what it is. That only changes the legal status of the kidnapping.General TSAR wrote...
Also it's not kidnapping, the Chantry is well within its power to take any and all children born to mage parents within their Circles.
It's still kidnapping. It's just legal kidnapping.
Jaison1986 wrote...
And who said I'm talking about that? What I said is that legalizing an action does not instantly make said action justified.
Modifié par General TSAR, 14 janvier 2014 - 08:07 .
TK514 wrote...
So make it optional. Want to be allowed to play pillow games? Here's an option that lets you do so without having to hide it.
Though, frankly, I have my doubts about its efficacy in a world with Healing Magic. I also seem to recall someone, maybe Wynne?, obliquely mentioning methods of contraception, though I may be misremembering. If magical contraception, or even herbal contraception isn't in widespread use to give mages the freedom to sleep with whoever, then there's more to it than just babies.
Like the whole "Boo hoo, my true love broke up with me. He/She just doesn't understand that we are meant to be together forever! Well, I will MAKE them understand. They WILL love me! *slits wrist* *makes the blood magic happen*"
Love is a crazy powerful emotion, for good or ill.
General TSAR wrote...
Jaison1986 wrote...
And who said I'm talking about that? What I said is that legalizing an action does not instantly make said action justified.
And I say otherwise.
Opinions, opinions everywhere.
Child Protective Services?Jaison1986 wrote...
Legal on paper anyway. I might as well make an Inquisitor that change the law by punishing maker worshipers with an decaptation, and it would be completely alright because it's the law. Just because something is legal, it doesn't mean that it's acceptable.
Modifié par The Hierophant, 14 janvier 2014 - 08:12 .
I guess you missed my edit.Darth Brotarian wrote...
I legalize the murder of all left-handed people, ergo, it is justified to murder a person for being left-handed.
It is law because it is right, and it is right because it is law.
The Hierophant wrote...
Child Protective Services?Jaison1986 wrote...
Legal on paper anyway. I might as well make an Inquisitor that change the law by punishing maker worshipers with an decaptation, and it would be completely alright because it's the law. Just because something is legal, it doesn't mean that it's acceptable.
Though it's likely to protect the newborns by placing them in an environment where they won't be roasted by a wayward spell, possessed or mauled to death by an abomination.
Can you imagine would've happened if there were infants during Uldred's coup?
Modifié par General TSAR, 14 janvier 2014 - 08:15 .
Nah, screw common sense.AresKeith wrote...
Someone think of the Children
Lord Raijin wrote...
What constitutes an "accidental pregnancy"? If 2 mages fall in love with each other and have sex the baby that they reproduce is not an accident.
Because pit up sexual frustrations always works. ALWAYS!General TSAR wrote...
The best way to avoid this whole dilemma with illegitimate children is to have segregated circles run by segregated Templars.
Modifié par Br3ad, 14 janvier 2014 - 08:21 .
Modifié par General TSAR, 14 janvier 2014 - 08:24 .
Br3ad wrote...
Because pit up sexual frustrations always works. ALWAYS!General TSAR wrote...
The best way to avoid this whole dilemma with illegitimate children is to have segregated circles run by segregated Templars.
BECOME MORE TOTALITARIAN. THAT WILL FIX THE PROBLEM!General TSAR wrote...
I'm sure each respective quarantine zone can accommodate the biological needs of its condemned or have potions that weaken desire or something.
It sure did. That couldn't have gone better.AresKeith wrote...
Br3ad wrote...
Because pit up sexual frustrations always works. ALWAYS!General TSAR wrote...
The best way to avoid this whole dilemma with illegitimate children is to have segregated circles run by segregated Templars.
It worked for Meredith and Orsino amirite?
Darth Brotarian wrote..
I legalize the murder of all left-handed people, ergo, it is justified to murder a person for being left-handed.
It is law because it is right, and it is right because it is law.
Giving walking WMDs ****** material or giving them potions that kill sexual desire is totalitarian?Br3ad wrote...
BECOME MORE TOTALITARIAN. THAT WILL FIX THE PROBLEM!
General TSAR wrote...
Giving walking WMDs ****** material or giving them potions that kill sexual desire is totalitarian?
You have just legalized the killing of lefties, ergo it is no longer technically murder. Murder is pecifically the unlawful act of killing another person.Darth Brotarian wrote...
General TSAR wrote...
Jaison1986 wrote...
And who said I'm talking about that? What I said is that legalizing an action does not instantly make said action justified.
And I say otherwise.
Opinions, opinions everywhere.
I legalize the murder of all left-handed people, ergo, it is justified to murder a person for being left-handed.
It is law because it is right, and it is right because it is law.
well when it comes to mages who can turn in any moment into abomnation maybe shooting on sight would be smart idea.It obvious that circles do don't good job containing mages so if you insist on circles to work need be much more strict and harsh because now it is way to lax.Sadly with so dumb peoples as divine and leliana who freed walking abomnations even strict circles will may fall and lead to situation we had now so im for killing them all it is certain method. Mages must be controled and current circles do bad job...Br3ad wrote...
BECOME MORE TOTALITARIAN. THAT WILL FIX THE PROBLEM!General TSAR wrote...
I'm sure each respective quarantine zone can accommodate the biological needs of its condemned or have potions that weaken desire or something.
LET'S BLOW UP MORE PEOPLE, THAT WILL FIX THE PROBLEM!
Neither of those are smart types of thinking, and it most certainly won't dix any dilemmas.
And to prevent people from becoming animals.EmperorSahlertz wrote...
You have just legalized the killing of lefties, ergo it is no longer technically murder. Murder is pecifically the unlawful act of killing another person.Darth Brotarian wrote...
General TSAR wrote...
Jaison1986 wrote...
And who said I'm talking about that? What I said is that legalizing an action does not instantly make said action justified.
And I say otherwise.
Opinions, opinions everywhere.
I legalize the murder of all left-handed people, ergo, it is justified to murder a person for being left-handed.
It is law because it is right, and it is right because it is law.
Laws are not by definition right or wrong, but rather a tool rulers use to facilitate control over the public.
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