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[draken-heart]

StreetMagic wrote...

draken-heart wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

draken-heart wrote...

I like to headcanon that ME 1 and Citadel DLC are the only real part of ME, and that the rest was just a story made up for some child.

That's ... bizarre, considering how much Citadel has to do with ME2 squadmates and plot points.

That is odd, considering the Citadel DLC has very little to do with ME 2 characters at all.

Maya Brooks was the person who got you to recruit all of those ME2 characters. She mentions people like Thane and Samara. The Clone mentions Miranda.

I AM SAYING THE COLLECTOR MISSION NEVER HAPPENED, NOT THAT THE CHARACTERS NEVER EXISTED!

The whole Trilogy is nothing more than a story so it means nothing.

Modifié par draken-heart, 07 janvier 2014 - 09:43 .

[ImaginaryMatter]

draken-heart wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

draken-heart wrote...

I like to headcanon that ME 1 and Citadel DLC are the only real part of ME, and that the rest was just a story made up for some child.

That's ... bizarre, considering how much Citadel has to do with ME2 squadmates and plot points.

That is odd, considering the Citadel DLC has very little to do with ME 2 characters at all.

Here is what I am talking about: Shepard picks up EDI while on a joint assignement with Cerberus, that is not Collector-related. Miranda is there, and Maya's references are true, but the mission of ME 2 never happened.

That's a lot of headcanon gymnastics. What about the clones itself? Without ME2 it was created for... what reason? What about Liara's role as a Shadow Broker? What about all the jokes and references to stuff that happened in ME2?

Considering the DLC's main draw was to be humorous and light hearted it would feel extremely wierd without all the apartment visits from ME2 squadmates. Plus, many of the jokes would be bizarre without some ME2 to provide some grounding.

Edit: *Looks up* Oh the characters exist. Wouldn't it still be a little wierd since the events of ME2 brought them all together?

Modifié par ImaginaryMatter, 07 janvier 2014 - 09:48 .

[draken-heart]

StreetMagic wrote...

draken-heart wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

draken-heart wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

draken-heart wrote...

I like to headcanon that ME 1 and Citadel DLC are the only real part of ME, and that the rest was just a story made up for some child.

That's ... bizarre, considering how much Citadel has to do with ME2 squadmates and plot points.

That is odd, considering the Citadel DLC has very little to do with ME 2 characters at all.

Maya Brooks was the person who got you to recruit all of those ME2 characters. She mentions people like Thane and Samara. The Clone mentions Miranda.

I AM SAYING THE COLLECTOR MISSION NEVER HAPPENED, NOT THAT THE CHARACTERS NEVER EXISTED!

No need for caps. All you have to do is explain yourself. You never said that. You said the events of ME2 didn't exist. That's pretty vague. Remember, I don't exist in your head. It helps if we actually talk, instead of try to read each other's minds.

I am simply saying that the main mission of ME 2+ME 3 is a mere story, which leads to tons of other options. But I get that if the citadel DLC is real, then the entire trilogy has to be real, to you.

[draken-heart]

ImaginaryMatter wrote...

draken-heart wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

draken-heart wrote...

I like to headcanon that ME 1 and Citadel DLC are the only real part of ME, and that the rest was just a story made up for some child.

That's ... bizarre, considering how much Citadel has to do with ME2 squadmates and plot points.

That is odd, considering the Citadel DLC has very little to do with ME 2 characters at all.

Here is what I am talking about: Shepard picks up EDI while on a joint assignement with Cerberus, that is not Collector-related. Miranda is there, and Maya's references are true, but the mission of ME 2 never happened.

That's a lot of headcanon gymnastics. What about the clones itself? Without ME2 it was created for... what reason? What about Liara's role as a Shadow Broker? What about all the jokes and references to stuff that happened in ME2?

Considering the DLC's main draw was to be humorous and light hearted it would feel extremely wierd without all the apartment visits from ME2 squadmates. Plus, many of the jokes would be bizarre without some ME2 to provide some grounding.

Actually I was wrong, the whole trilogy is a story. That is my new hedcanon.

[dreamgazer]

dreamgazer wrote...

^

[draken-heart]

dreamgazer wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

^

Really? I re-did my head-canon to go with the true canon of the trilogy being a story being told. None of the events happened, Shepard never worked for Cerberus and the reapers never existed. How hard is that to understand?

[draken-heart]

StreetMagic wrote...

It's an interesting way of looking at things. Unless Bioware explores this stuff further though, I'm willing to accept it at face value.

To me, Citadel is partly created for people like me: ME2 fans who got shafted in the main game. It's them partly making up for real world mistakes and giving better roles for everyone.

yet it literally means nothing because it was just a story. Or did you forget the ending withthe stargazer telling the story to the child?

[MegaSovereign]

@darken-heart

Soo why?

[draken-heart]

StreetMagic wrote...

draken-heart wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

It's an interesting way of looking at things. Unless Bioware explores this stuff further though, I'm willing to accept it at face value.

To me, Citadel is partly created for people like me: ME2 fans who got shafted in the main game. It's them partly making up for real world mistakes and giving better roles for everyone.

yet it literally means nothing because it was just a story. Or did you forget the ending withthe stargazer telling the story to the child?

I'm not disputing it's just a story. I never said anything about that.

Isn't accepting it at face value disputing that it's a story? It would not be a story if it was commnly accepted at face value.

[draken-heart]

StreetMagic wrote...

Good point, but that doesn't mean a story is totally made up. The stargazer could be telling a story exactly as we played it and/or how things went down.

My main point about accepting things at face value though is that I'd rather wait to see what they come out with next. If this is the actual end of the Shepard series, then I have to take it at face value. There's no other alternative. It's not like I've seen another game that shows the "real story". I'm all ears though.

If the trilogy is just a story, then the true story can be anything. They will not waste time with Shepard any more. They outright said in the game that it was a story therefore I take to mean that it really is a story.

[draken-heart]

StreetMagic wrote...

draken-heart wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

Good point, but that doesn't mean a story is totally made up. The stargazer could be telling a story exactly as we played it and/or how things went down.

My main point about accepting things at face value though is that I'd rather wait to see what they come out with next. If this is the actual end of the Shepard series, then I have to take it at face value. There's no other alternative. It's not like I've seen another game that shows the "real story". I'm all ears though.

If the trilogy is just a story, then the true story can be anything. They will not waste time with Shepard any more. They outright said in the game that it was a story therefore I take to mean that it really is a story.

That's kind of terrible though. Because they got us to actually care about it and the characters in it (another point of the Citadel DLC). I feel like I wasted my time investing in anything if it was just some old geezer making up b.s.

Just like in DA 2 where the actual game was a story within a story. ME 3 establishes that the trilogy is a story, which means were are simply playing space DA 2.

[draken-heart]

StreetMagic wrote...

draken-heart wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

draken-heart wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

Good point, but that doesn't mean a story is totally made up. The stargazer could be telling a story exactly as we played it and/or how things went down.

My main point about accepting things at face value though is that I'd rather wait to see what they come out with next. If this is the actual end of the Shepard series, then I have to take it at face value. There's no other alternative. It's not like I've seen another game that shows the "real story". I'm all ears though.

If the trilogy is just a story, then the true story can be anything. They will not waste time with Shepard any more. They outright said in the game that it was a story therefore I take to mean that it really is a story.

That's kind of terrible though. Because they got us to actually care about it and the characters in it (another point of the Citadel DLC). I feel like I wasted my time investing in anything if it was just some old geezer making up b.s.

Just like in DA 2 where the actual game was a story within a story. ME 3 establishes that the trilogy is a story, which means were are simply playing space DA 2.

Yeah, but Varric is funnier than stargazer. I'm fine with his brand of b.s. They set up his character better.

Are you upset that they did not tell you that ME was simply a story being told by some old person at the start of the first game? You should be.

[Br3admax]

I was not upset when it happened in PoP. I am not upset by it happening in ME.

[MattFini]

 I was trying to make sense of the turn this thread has taken. But at this point all I can come up with is:

http://gifb.in/lvsV