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[Argentoid]

Necanor wrote...

David7204 wrote...

District 9 was at, best, mediocre.

Judging by the reviews it got on Rotten Tomatoes(90%) and IMDb(8/10) as well as the highly positive reaction from the public I'd say your opinion is pretty rare. But I'm guessing you think you know better than all of them combined anyway.

Rotten Tomatoes and IMDB's rating doesn't prove anything. Though I liked District 9, its David's opinion and its ok.

On the other side, if you want a really overrated film worth of mention, that one is pretty much Avatar, which I think that it is just a really mediocre film with a big budget.
I mean I never liked it and I found it that it was just a copy-paste of The Last Samurai's plot combined with Pocahontas, filled with every single cliché you can find in an epic science fiction movie.

You might go as well to Rotten Tomatoes and check its 83% or Metacritic which has an approval score of 83. 

BTW, I'm not the type of hipster-indie dude who claims that every single Hollywood blockbuster is terrible and overrated. Michael Bay's last movie is actually good (for Michael Bay's standard) and while still many people did not liked it, I would give you my points in why I found it amusing.

A film that I found it to be a masterpiece recently is Only God Forgives. The RT score is 39 %. And I don't care.

Again, Rotten Tomatoes, IMDB or Metacritic doesn't prove anything, most of the time.

Modifié par Argentoid, 08 janvier 2014 - 01:37 .

[Cainhurst Crow]

Sorry, I watched avatar years before it was released when I saw dances with wolves. Don't feel like watching the sci-fi adapt remake version all that much.

[dreamgazer]

Everything about Avatar is a copy-paste job, even Pandora.

[spirosz]

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Avatar sucked because the aliens won. Same with District 9.

[AresKeith]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Avatar sucked because the aliens won. Same with District 9.

That's a really crappy reason to say a movie sucks

[Obadiah]

Dances with Wolves was good. District 9 was good.

Avatar was weird. Coorporations were unbelievably stupid - I don't care how much they verbally dehumanize the natives, no coorporation would want to deal with endless attacks in their infrastructure. They want to make money!!! Why antagonize the Navii if they don't have to (and they didn't have to). And then the movie's hero steals a billion dollar synthetic body in the end and... I just don't think that will end well.

That said, I experienced an Avatar effect the last time I finished the ME triolgy.

Modifié par Obadiah, 08 janvier 2014 - 03:12 .

[RogueBot]

Avatar's message was so obvious, and the characters and story were so cliche, that I couldn't help but root for the bad guys to chop down that stupid tree and hope it lands on the stupid natives.


I did enjoy it, though. I like cheesy scifi movies like Avatar, The Chronicles of Riddick, etc.

Modifié par RogueBot, 08 janvier 2014 - 03:11 .

[MrMrPendragon]

Yeah I got that feeling too. Although I wouldn't necessarily link that feeling to "Avatar".

For myself, that feeling came from the fact that the ending did not properly incorporate the supporting characters.

These characters (Garrus, Liara, Tali, Kaidan, Traynor, all of them) were such a big part of the Mass Effect experience that when everything ended and I didn't get to see them with my Shepard, it just didn't sit right with me. I wanted more because I felt like "it can't end there, Shepard needs to reunite with his buddies and love interest back on the Normandy... somehow". It didn't even have to be like that, I just wanted a proper goodbye.

[OdanUrr]

Relevant:

Starring the recycled plots from:

- Dances with Wolves
- Pocahontas
- The Last of the Mohicans
- An inconvenient truth
- Native American History
- Ferngully: The Last Rainforest

[KaiserShep]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Avatar sucked because the aliens won. Same with District 9.

Both are similar in that the aliens were only struggling against a corporation, not really fighting an all out war with the human race. Difference is, in Avatar, the humans were screwed no matter what. They can't live on Pandora because the environment is too hostile, and no amount of unobtainium is going to reverse what became of the earth.

[o Ventus]

KaiserShep wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Avatar sucked because the aliens won. Same with District 9.

Both are similar in that the aliens were only struggling against a corporation, not really fighting an all out war with the human race. Difference is, in Avatar, the humans were screwed no matter what. They can't live on Pandora because the environment is too hostile, and no amount of unobtainium is going to reverse what became of the earth.

IIRC, the humans in Avatar had no intention of living on Pandora, they just wanted the unobtainium (whoever wrote that name should be shot). Either way, it's inconceivable how James Cameron wants to make 2 more sequels. 

Seriously , what could happen? The humans lost in the first movie, so they come back and firebomb the magic God-tree, thus irrevocably crippling the Navi resistance and eliminatig them as a species.

[KaiserShep]

RDA isn't a military force. They were using a small group of what was essentially mercenaries using conventional weaponry and a makeshift daisy-cutters from mining explosives. Now, if there's a lot of oversight permitted in the movie, like, say RDA on Earth decides to procure WMD's to ship off to Pandora, then perhaps that's something. But I have a feeling that RDA isn't able to just do whatever they want, like nuking a site from orbit just to be sure.

[AlanC9]

o Ventus wrote...
IIRC, the humans in Avatar had no intention of living on Pandora, they just wanted the unobtainium (whoever wrote that name should be shot). 

It did make for a good joke in Laser Cats V.

[Artifex_Imperius]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Avatar sucked because the aliens won. Same with District 9.

would you perfer "skyline". where the aliens are like invincible. would have enjoyed a hopeless and helpless mass effect.

sigh. if only reapers were truly indistructible. was also hoping to see reapers do an instant repair upon destruction. would have loved to see shepards faze. like oh**** moment.

i wanted to hear shepard or hackett say "flee for your livez!" hahaha..

the reaper i wanted to see. was a walking giant with a blender on one hand and a scoop on the other. running around the street scooping up people. and putting them in the blender.

Modifié par Artifex_Imperius, 08 janvier 2014 - 04:54 .

[AresKeith]

KaiserShep wrote...

RDA isn't a military force. They were using a small group of what was essentially mercenaries using conventional weaponry and a makeshift daisy-cutters from mining explosives. Now, if there's a lot of oversight permitted in the movie, like, say RDA on Earth decides to procure WMD's to ship off to Pandora, then perhaps that's something. But I have a feeling that RDA isn't able to just do whatever they want, like nuking a site from orbit just to be sure.

Yea, they aren't the Sith Empire 

[Anubis722]

Meh, Avatar was okay

[Bfler]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Avatar sucked because the aliens won. Same with District 9.

It's a triumph of nature over technology,industrialization. Same like with Ents and Isengard in LotR.

Modifié par Bfler, 08 janvier 2014 - 07:15 .

[TheMyron]

I liked Avatar. I really don't see much of a connection with that horrible Pocahontas film...

P.S. The Na'vi would make excellent prey for the Yautja (Predator)...

Modifié par TheMyron, 08 janvier 2014 - 09:23 .

[Display Name Owner]

I liked Avatar when I first saw it at the cinema. But that was nothing to do with the plot; in fact, even the first time things about it annoyed me. The protagonist was boring, the whole message was kind of obnoxious and the fact that the human became the alien leader was somehow annoying as well. Like a lot of people, it was all about the world design to me (although I seem to remember reading that some of those were directly ripped off from some artist who was never given any credit).
And even the magic of Pandora wore off when I started watching it a second time.

One thing I like about the MEverse is that it's a touch less fantastical. It made the whole world feel somehow believable (except for all the Reaper stuff). Well, ME1 did. ME2 is where it started feeling more (and I know people hate this word but...) videogamey. Still a great universe, but that's my opinion.

[Farangbaa]

Invisible Man wrote...
@ everyone
I didn't have the avatar blues, does that make me a sociopath?

I didn't even see Avatar. What does that make me? 

[Farangbaa]

TheMyron wrote...

I liked Avatar. I really don't see much of a connection with that horrible Pocahontas film...

P.S. The Na'vi would make excellent prey for the Yautja (Predator)...

Na'vi?

That sounds like DotA 2 to me

[TheMyron]

Psychevore wrote...

TheMyron wrote...

I liked Avatar. I really don't see much of a connection with that horrible Pocahontas film...

P.S. The Na'vi would make excellent prey for the Yautja (Predator)...

Na'vi?

That sounds like DotA 2 to me

Its what the natives in James Cameron's Avatar are called.

[TheMyron]

tickle267 wrote...

TheMyron wrote...

P.S. The Na'vi would make excellent prey for the Yautja (Predator)...

everything on Pandora would.

I imagine the Thanator being reserved for Elites only...