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[MassivelyEffective0730]

eluvianix wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

I suppose nows not the best time to mention how I want to throw screaming elven children into flaming pits with blight wolves to rip them to pieces, with a vertically bisected head of an elf as my shoulder pouldrens, and allowing my men to have their way with the knife eared harlots and proceeding to use them as arrow practice, all while choreographing their delightful screams of terror, agony and misery into a perfect adaptation of the nutcracker score by Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky.

You done yet?<_<

Does dead elves disturb you? 

There's a reason Arlathan is gone. I destroyed it.

[EmperorSahlertz]

Arlathan could also just have been a myth and never have actually existed.

[General TSAR]

^Pretty much^

[Cainhurst Crow]

^I'd agree if not for the photographic evidence staring me in the face on the first page.^

[EmperorSahlertz]

It is a concept art, with an attached line from the codex entry on Arlathan. You take that as photographic proof of Arlathan's existance?

[Hellion Rex]

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

Arlathan could also just have been a myth and never have actually existed.

I would agree, but the Tevinters clearly remember it too, since they sunk the damn thing.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

I kind of doubt that. History begins to blur with legend at about 3000 years or so into the past. The founding of Arlathan certainly is shrouded in the mists of time but the Fall of Aralthan occurred only 1900 years before the Dragon Age. Records from that point in history still are fairly clear. We also know there was an ancient elven civilization and culture predating their enslavement because we've visited some of their ruins.

[General TSAR]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

^I'd agree if not for the photographic evidence staring me in the face on the first page.^

A painting of an unknown ruin on a lake, nice photographic evidence brah. 

[EmperorSahlertz]

eluvianix wrote...

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

Arlathan could also just have been a myth and never have actually existed.

I would agree, but the Tevinters clearly remember it too, since they sunk the damn thing.

The ancient Greeks remembered sinking Atlantis too...

[Steelcan]

Filthy knife ears, can't even defend either homeland they have...

[Cainhurst Crow]

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

It is a concept art, with an attached line from the codex entry on Arlathan. You take that as photographic proof of Arlathan's existance?

Seeing it come from an official source. Yes. I do.

And until shown actual counter evidence that isn't speculation  based, I will continue to think it is arlathan. IE until a dev or someone from their facebook stats that it isn't arlathan.

I believe in skepticism as much as the next person, but when a picture says "And thus arlathan fell", and we see a picture of a city falling, and it comes from an offical and much more credible source then a persons deviantart page, I tend to see it as credible evidence.

It would be like if the devs posted a picture of a horned qunari, and wrote a small quote about serving the qun, and people saying that "That's not a qunari".

So I will wait, and see what the people who are actually working on the game have to say, before I snicker and point at others for being "wrong" about what they see the evidence showing to have a proxy mocking of dragon age elves and their supporters, and make an ass of myself one way or another.

Modifié par Darth Brotarian, 07 janvier 2014 - 07:48 .

[EmperorSahlertz]

The difference here would be of course, taht we KNOW what Qunari looks like, and that they are confirmed actualities in Thedas.
Had we not yet known how Qunari looked like, and it was only a quote about Qunari, and not a direct statement that it indeed was a Qunari on the picture, then it would be entirely reasonable to say, that what the pciture shows was not necessarily a Qunari.

Modifié par EmperorSahlertz, 07 janvier 2014 - 07:50 .

[Hellion Rex]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

I suppose nows not the best time to mention how I want to throw screaming elven children into flaming pits with blight wolves to rip them to pieces, with a vertically bisected head of an elf as my shoulder pouldrens, and allowing my men to have their way with the knife eared harlots and proceeding to use them as arrow practice, all while choreographing their delightful screams of terror, agony and misery into a perfect adaptation of the nutcracker score by Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky.

You done yet?<_<

Does dead elves disturb you? 

There's a reason Arlathan is gone. I destroyed it.

No. You are just beginning to sound like a broken record, and it's getting a little annoying.

[EmperorSahlertz]

Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

I kind of doubt that. History begins to blur with legend at about 3000 years or so into the past. The founding of Arlathan certainly is shrouded in the mists of time but the Fall of Aralthan occurred only 1900 years before the Dragon Age. Records from that point in history still are fairly clear. We also know there was an ancient elven civilization and culture predating their enslavement because we've visited some of their ruins.

Oh I am not disputing that there once was an ancient Elven culture (even though we never see any huge evidence of it*). I am saying that Arlathan might be entirely fictional.

*The only actual evidence of an ancient Elven culture are the Eluvians. Every ruin we have crawled through in the games have been Tevinter in origin.

[Hellion Rex]

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

I kind of doubt that. History begins to blur with legend at about 3000 years or so into the past. The founding of Arlathan certainly is shrouded in the mists of time but the Fall of Aralthan occurred only 1900 years before the Dragon Age. Records from that point in history still are fairly clear. We also know there was an ancient elven civilization and culture predating their enslavement because we've visited some of their ruins.

Oh I am not disputing that there once was an ancient Elven culture (even though we never see any huge evidence of it*). I am saying that Arlathan might be entirely fictional.

*The only actual evidence of an ancient Elven culture are the Eluvians. Every ruin we have crawled through in the games have been Tevinter in origin.

Hang on. We have seen Dalish ruins, right? I know the vast majority are Tevinter, but surely we have seen some Dalish ruins.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

The ruins in the Brecellian Forest seemed to be elven. There's statues of elven gods and "ghosts" of elven children inside. As well as a room for an elven ritual. Tamlen also said the artifact that the scavengers found in the Dalish Origin had written elvish in it.

And since the Eluvian is elven and was also found in those same ruins, it would seem that they were elven ruins.

[XxPrincess(x)ThreatxX]

I just hope there is no ancient Arlathan elf companion or anything like that.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

eluvianix wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

I suppose nows not the best time to mention how I want to throw screaming elven children into flaming pits with blight wolves to rip them to pieces, with a vertically bisected head of an elf as my shoulder pouldrens, and allowing my men to have their way with the knife eared harlots and proceeding to use them as arrow practice, all while choreographing their delightful screams of terror, agony and misery into a perfect adaptation of the nutcracker score by Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky.

You done yet?<_<

Does dead elves disturb you? 

There's a reason Arlathan is gone. I destroyed it.

No. You are just beginning to sound like a broken record, and it's getting a little annoying.

So you don't like my posts. Sorry. And here I thought I was being on topic.

[Cainhurst Crow]

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

The difference here would be of course, taht we KNOW what Qunari looks like, and that they are confirmed actualities in Thedas.
Had we not yet known how Qunari looked like, and it was only a quote about Qunari, and not a direct statement that it indeed was a Qunari on the picture, then it would be entirely reasonable to say, that what the pciture shows was not necessarily a Qunari.

Fair enough,  though looking at a pregame release standpoint, it is fair to say the situation I'd similar, from our point compared to that of a pre DA 2 point.

[TK514]

Pretty art. Doubt it's the city of Arlathan, though. Hole isn't large enough, is too symmetrical, and if it were Arlathan, and the Tevinter did sink it, why would they have left things unfinished? There's a whole lot of building sticking out of that hole, just begging to be demolished. Not to mention the hole itself, just begging to be closed up or filled in.

Leaving a big signpost like this sticking out of the ground is just begging people to find it, which would defeat the point of sinking it in the first place.

[Hellion Rex]

I don't think this is the actual great city of Arlathan, unless it somehow is hidden by some type of magic. Probably the remnants of an ancient Elven city. Which I am totally cool with.

[EmperorSahlertz]

Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

The ruins in the Brecellian Forest seemed to be elven. There's statues of elven gods and "ghosts" of elven children inside. As well as a room for an elven ritual. Tamlen also said the artifact that the scavengers found in the Dalish Origin had written elvish in it.

And since the Eluvian is elven and was also found in those same ruins, it would seem that they were elven ruins.

Nope the ruins in Brecillian forest were of Tevinter origin. Morrigan points out how odd it is, since the Tevinter Imperium never actually stretched so far. Which also makes it odd why the Juggernaut armor set is found in the Brecillian forest (And the ghosts use the human model).

[Br3admax]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

I suppose nows not the best time to mention how I want to throw screaming elven children into flaming pits with blight wolves to rip them to pieces, with a vertically bisected head of an elf as my shoulder pouldrens, and allowing my men to have their way with the knife eared harlots and proceeding to use them as arrow practice, all while choreographing their delightful screams of terror, agony and misery into a perfect adaptation of the nutcracker score by Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky.

Too casual, Massively. You haven't forced them to eat their own children yet. 

[Steelcan]

eluvianix wrote...

I don't think this is the actual great city of Arlathan, unless it somehow is hidden by some type of magic. Probably the remnants of an ancient Elven city. Which I am totally cool with.

Or most of it is well, underground