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“And thus was mighty Arlathan cast down, its people swallowed by darkness — never to rise again.”


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#176
EmperorSahlertz

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Wissenschaft wrote...

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eluvianix wrote...

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Arlathan could also just have been a myth and never have actually existed.

I would agree, but the Tevinters clearly remember it too, since they sunk the damn thing.

The ancient Greeks remembered sinking Atlantis too...

 

Actually, the only mention of Atlantis is from Plato. Its only during latter generations that people start to believe that Atlantis was real. In fact, Plato used several fables in his dialgoues and its quite likely that Atlantis is just a made up story ment to illustrate his ideal city state.

Since Minoan culture of Crete was at war with the Mycenean culture of mainland Greece, and was in many way superior to the Myceneans, many historians believe that Crete is actually the Atlantis of legend. The fact that Minoan culture was utterly destroyed by a tidal wave caused by the Theran Eruption, obviosuly help validating this theory.
But yes, Atlantis is in itself purely fiction, which Aralthan MAY also be. I was trying to point out, that just because the Elves have stories about Arlathan does not make it true.

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No, any city from an ancient but highly successful civilization that sinks in a single day is atlantis. This remains true until we get more information. Any conclusions drawn from this post are based off of essentially no info, and are pure speculation. 

That said, I've yet to encounter a fantasy city that rises from underwater which doesn't borrow heavily from the legend of atlantis. 

Arlthan was sunk beneath the earth not the sea. OBVIOUSLY Arlathan takes a bit of inspiration from Atlantis, but that doesn't make it a rip-off, and now you have just validated my claim, that you don't really understand the term rip-off.

Modifié par EmperorSahlertz, 13 janvier 2014 - 12:27 .


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Cimeas wrote...

I love the fact that FINALLY in DAI we get real *variety*.

Jungles, mountains, deserts, forests, swamps, cities- that's exactly what I want to see.


That seems to be the case. I'm curious what awaits the Inquisitor in the possible ruins of Arlathan; I hope the Dalish protagonist can learn more about the ancient elves.

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Wissenschaft wrote...

Actually, the only mention of Atlantis is from Plato. Its only during latter generations that people start to believe that Atlantis was real. In fact, Plato used several fables in his dialgoues and its quite likely that Atlantis is just a made up story ment to illustrate his ideal city state.


It wasn't only mentioned by Plato, but by alot of cultures worldwide.
Plato's writings are the only extencive writings on Atlantis that survived till this day.
http://talc.site88.net/atla.htm

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Gwinever wrote...

Wissenschaft wrote...

Actually, the only mention of Atlantis is from Plato. Its only during latter generations that people start to believe that Atlantis was real. In fact, Plato used several fables in his dialgoues and its quite likely that Atlantis is just a made up story ment to illustrate his ideal city state.


It wasn't only mentioned by Plato, but by alot of cultures worldwide.
Plato's writings are the only extencive writings on Atlantis that survived till this day.
http://talc.site88.net/atla.htm

 

All those ancient writers wrote AFTER Plato. Hence, why academia generally accepts atlantis as a fable told by Plato. But hey, theres always people willing to chase after a fools errand. Like trying to find evidence of big foot.

And yes, lots of ancient cultures share myths and themes in their legends. Need I point out all the biblical stories that seem mirrored in various cultures pre-dating the bible? Humans, dispite how different our cultures can seem at the surface, tend to think suprisingly similarly. 

Err...

I should actually address the topic. It would be really cool to explore the ruins of Arlathan, or a related city. The Elven ruins in DA:O was one of the coolest parts of the game.

Modifié par Wissenschaft, 13 janvier 2014 - 03:04 .


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LobselVith8 wrote...

Cimeas wrote...

I love the fact that FINALLY in DAI we get real *variety*.

Jungles, mountains, deserts, forests, swamps, cities- that's exactly what I want to see.


That seems to be the case. I'm curious what awaits the Inquisitor in the possible ruins of Arlathan; I hope the Dalish protagonist can learn more about the ancient elves.


Agreed. I hope all Inquisitors can learn about the elvhen, though. Although I can understand if the Dalish Inq. would get a little something extra. I hope however, that whatever we learn skews some of what the Dalish supposedly know of their past.

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 Found this. May be relevent. Source. By Matt Rhodes.


DA:I - OvergrowthTwo more images I've worked on have been released. Seems to make sense to put these two together.
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Modifié par Dragon Effected, 13 janvier 2014 - 03:02 .


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That was the one with the caption about the Arbor Wilds. It could just be a connection about overgrowth on a ruin though.