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[Jaison1986]

 I was making my master save for Origins, and I'm aways torn between accepting Morrigan offer or refusing it and have Loghain perform the ultimate sacrifice. The thing is, if you romance Morrigan the OGB still exists, but without the soul of an old god. Do you guys think there will be much difference with the OGB, if he is born as an old god or just an normal child?

[Lady Niltiak]

I think they will be different, but I can't remember where I heard they would be.

[Nefla]

I thought they said if you didn't do the DR, the OGB didn't exist. It would be interesting to see if they made 2 different OGBs though, one dwarf looking if the father was a dwarf(like sandal) and one human looking if the father was a human or elf.

[Veruin]

Jaison1986 wrote...
The thing is, if you romance Morrigan the OGB still exists, but without the soul of an old god.

If it lacks the soul of an old god, how is it an old god baby?

[Sylvius the Mad]

Nefla wrote...

I thought they said if you didn't do the DR, the OGB didn't exist. It would be interesting to see if they made 2 different OGBs though, one dwarf looking if the father was a dwarf(like sandal) and one human looking if the father was a human or elf.

David Gaider has said exactly that.

If you didn't do the Dark Ritual, there is no Old God Baby.

[Jaison1986]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

Nefla wrote...

I thought they said if you didn't do the DR, the OGB didn't exist. It would be interesting to see if they made 2 different OGBs though, one dwarf looking if the father was a dwarf(like sandal) and one human looking if the father was a human or elf.

David Gaider has said exactly that.

If you didn't do the Dark Ritual, there is no Old God Baby.

There is. If you lay with Morrigan at the camp, she becomes pregnant with the Warden baby, even if you refuse the ritual. She confirms this in Witch hunt.

[Ryzaki]

That's not an OGB that's a normal baby.

[Magdalena11]

I think that regardless of whether or not Morrigan was romanced (and thus expecting) the DR is what makes an OGB. A normal child would perhaps appear but would not have anything special about him other than being the son of Morrigan and a man the inquisitor has never met.

I don't honestly think there will be a tremendous amount of difference volume-wise between those who complete the DR and those who don't. Content will be different. In some games the OGB may have a significant role in how events unfold. In others there will be a different explanation. Maybe the OGB/no OGB issue will have little impact on the overall plot and maybe it will be the catalyst for different endings. I lean toward the former because the OGB is one issue out of about 10 going on in the world.

[The Elder King]

Jaison1986 wrote...
There is. If you lay with Morrigan at the camp, she becomes pregnant with the Warden baby, even if you refuse the ritual. She confirms this in Witch hunt.

That's normal human baby. Not a baby with the soul of an Old God.

[Jaison1986]

hhh89 wrote...

Jaison1986 wrote...
There is. If you lay with Morrigan at the camp, she becomes pregnant with the Warden baby, even if you refuse the ritual. She confirms this in Witch hunt.

That's normal human baby. Not a baby with the soul of an Old God.

Yes, I know, I didn't meant the OGB is born regardless, I mean an child in itself will be born regardless. My main question would be if the boy role would change depending whether he haves the sould of an Old God or not.

[Zatche]

Ummm yes, I think the OGB will be different from the regular (not old god) baby. Though...I have no idea what kind of actual impact it would have on the overall game. I think the OGB was vaguely said to have "more than a passing reference. " Maybe regular baby will just have a passing reference. Or maybe it will only affect Morrigan while the OGB will affect more of the plot.

[daveliam]

Jaison1986 wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

Jaison1986 wrote...
There is. If you lay with Morrigan at the camp, she becomes pregnant with the Warden baby, even if you refuse the ritual. She confirms this in Witch hunt.

That's normal human baby. Not a baby with the soul of an Old God.

Yes, I know, I didn't meant the OGB is born regardless, I mean an child in itself will be born regardless. My main question would be if the boy role would change depending whether he haves the sould of an Old God or not.

The "OGB" or regular human baby won't "be born regardless" because:
* some Wardens are female and choose sacrifice
* some male Wardens romance Leliana and not Morrigan and choose sacrifice
* some male Wardens romance Zevran and not Morrigan and choose sacrifice

So unless they come up with another way to explain that Morrigan has a baby, there will be plenty of imported saves without a baby, OGB or otherwise.

[Spectre slayer]

Morrigan only has a baby if you are male and slept with her or did the dark ritual, the former is a normal male son, the dark ritual is the ogb son and is only possible if you did the ritual but not there's no ogb. Also if you didn't sleep with her there is no child at all, please just stop the devs and writer's have 100% confirmed that the children are not born no matter what, if you didn't sleep with or didn't do the ritual, then neither exist.

[Secretlyapotato]

Yes, I think one could have some sort of negative consequence. Maybe the OGB kills a party member, maybe the normal one can't save himself and gets killed, idk. Maybe both have different ones.

[Jaison1986]

daveliam wrote...

Jaison1986 wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

Jaison1986 wrote...
There is. If you lay with Morrigan at the camp, she becomes pregnant with the Warden baby, even if you refuse the ritual. She confirms this in Witch hunt.

That's normal human baby. Not a baby with the soul of an Old God.

Yes, I know, I didn't meant the OGB is born regardless, I mean an child in itself will be born regardless. My main question would be if the boy role would change depending whether he haves the sould of an Old God or not.

The "OGB" or regular human baby won't "be born regardless" because:
* some Wardens are female and choose sacrifice
* some male Wardens romance Leliana and not Morrigan and choose sacrifice
* some male Wardens romance Zevran and not Morrigan and choose sacrifice

So unless they come up with another way to explain that Morrigan has a baby, there will be plenty of imported saves without a baby, OGB or otherwise.

The OGB will be born regardless in case the Warden romanced an slept with Morrigan. I'm well aware that an unromanced Morrigan have no child.

[Angrywolves]

Veruin wrote...

Jaison1986 wrote...
The thing is, if you romance Morrigan the OGB still exists, but without the soul of an old god.

If it lacks the soul of an old god, how is it an old god baby?

If you don't do the DR the child isn't an OGB, just a normal child.

[daveliam]

Jaison1986 wrote...

The OGB will be born regardless in case the Warden romanced an slept with Morrigan. I'm well aware that an unromanced Morrigan have no child.

There are three possibilities here:

An OGB (only if a male warden - PC, Alistair, or Loghain - slept with Morrigan in the Dark Ritual)

A regular child (only if the male PC warden slept with Morrigan in the camp, but didn't do the Dark Ritual)

No child is born (if a warden didn't sleep with Morrigan and no one did the Dark Ritual)

Because of this, I don't see how they will be able to make the OGB play a major role in the game without major retconning and, if history tells us anything, that would go over like a lead balloon.  I suspect that if Morrigan has a child, there will be reference to him (at most, a small unique sidequest), but he can't play a major role without changing alot of players' games.

Modifié par daveliam, 08 janvier 2014 - 01:37 .

[myahele]

The ogb seems far too important to be left behind. I don't think he'll play a role in games due to the fact that his existence is optional.

I do believe that he'll play a role in future spinoffs titles like a book, comic or movie. But definitely not in game. He'll be referenced, or play a minor role if you choose the dark ritual.

[Zatche]

Jaison1986 wrote...

The OGB will be born regardless in case the Warden romanced an slept with Morrigan. I'm well aware that an unromanced Morrigan have no child.

You should probably stop using the acronym OGB as an encompassing term for both Old God Baby and the normal Morrigan love child. It's confusing.

Modifié par Zatche, 08 janvier 2014 - 02:24 .

[Zatche]

myahele wrote...

The ogb seems far too important to be left behind. I don't think he'll play a role in games due to the fact that his existence is optional.

I do believe that he'll play a role in future spinoffs titles like a book, comic or movie. But definitely not in game. He'll be referenced, or play a minor role if you choose the dark ritual.

In DAI, the the dark ritual will have "more than a passing reference." We'll have to wait and see what that actually means.

The comics and books use the Ultimate Sacrifice ending, so we won't see the OGB there.