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Funkier_Than_Thou

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I have been reading all the Mass Effect 4 news updates. The more I read the news the more worried I become that the next game will be only good for the crapper. Don't get me wrong. I'm a Mass Effect fan to the core and I've put in hundreds of hours on all the games of the trilogy. I'm anxious about what the next chapter of the Universe will be. I just want to put my two cents in...

Here it is in a nutshell:

Sequel Possibility:

The Mass Effect Universe is huge. Infinite possibilities. However, the story can't be a sequel because the three endings, whether you like it or not, severely set a limit to the story that can be written after. If the Mass Effect Universe is the Ocean the Mass Effect 3 ending practically says that the next story will be in a pond. 

Prequel Possibility:

Okay. I get that it could be a good idea however why would I be interested in playing a prequel? If the game would be about choices and how it will affect the Universe at large then how can it be a good game when all the future events that matter has already been set in on the proverbial stone?

If it was set during the First Contact War it will basically mean there would be no human biotics yet or very few. I want to play a character that is a biotic.

A Spin Off on the Trilogy Possibility:

How would this be fun to play? How would your character's decision affect the event of Mass Effect Trilogy? Does this mean your character is just a guppy in the ocean and of very little consequence? I'm fine with playing something a bit less epic but playing uninteresting character where he doesn't matter at all in the grand scheme of things does not float my boat.

What I think the Next Mass Effect Game will be set:

I think none of the three possibilities would make me interested in playing "Mass Effect 4". However, if they pull it off and actually come up with a great story I'll tip my hat to them. I am not underestimating the talents at bioware. They are all great writers and very talented storytellers.

I think for the story to work: It should be set in an alternative Universe like the Star Trek Mirror Universe. Almost everything is the same yet very different. I would be intereseted in a What if storyline where the Protheans defeated the Reapers during their cycle and now still a thriving empire with the rest of the spieces subjugated. Or what if the Reapers are a non-issue and defeated by an ancient race long before the Prothean cycle? Would the cycle of synthetics rising up and killing their creators be the theme? A Terminator-Fest cycle of a galactic scale? The way I see it, if that is what the Reapers were trying to protect organic life from and with them being out of the picture wouldn't there 50000 years harvesting cycle be replaced by synthetics destroying organic life? Bear in mind that all these are happening on an alternate timeline.

The Alternate Universe is very appealing over making a sequel of the Mass Effect Trilogy. I submit this conjecture based on something EDI said in Mass Effect 3 when Liara asked her to compute the possibility of the Mass Effect Technology only happens in finite number of Universes. So it stands to reason that the next Mass Effect game can happen on a different Universe where Commander Shepard might have never existed.

This is all speculation of course... but due to the lack of any updates from Bioware what am I suppose to do but be worried. They can fall face down with the new game and alienate all existing fans forever or they can actually deliver something worth all this wait and suspense.

And my personal message to BIOWARE: Hurry the f*ck up. Give us something to chew on Bioware. Considering what happened to the Mass Effect 3 ending... your silence does not give me any comfort at all.

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Hellion Rex

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Wrong forum, dude.

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eluvianix wrote...

Wrong forum, dude.



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Funkier_Than_Thou

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Thanks. I just wanted to let out some steam. My apologies for my Noobie mistake. :)

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Eurypterid

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Yeah, why is this in a Dragon Age forum?

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Eurypterid wrote...

Yeah, why is this in a Dragon Age forum?


Cuz everyone makes mistakes. Everyone has those days. Everyone knows what I'm talkin' 'bout. Everybody gets that way.

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Funkier_Than_Thou

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Foopydoopydoo wrote...

Eurypterid wrote...

Yeah, why is this in a Dragon Age forum?


Cuz everyone makes mistakes. Everyone has those days. Everyone knows what I'm talkin' 'bout. Everybody gets that way.


Thanks for the kind words and understanding.:D

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Eurypterid wrote...

Yeah, why is this in a Dragon Age forum?


Ahem...rouge.:whistle:

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Eurypterid

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Foopydoopydoo wrote...

Cuz everyone makes mistakes. Everyone has those days. Everyone knows what I'm talkin' 'bout. Everybody gets that way.


Fair enough.

Fortlowe wrote...

Ahem...rouge.:whistle:


Don't make me go medieval on your butt!

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A ban is coming.

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Funkier_Than_Thou wrote...
Thanks for the kind words and understanding.:D


Don't thank me! Thank Hannah Montana.

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Wrong forum, hon.

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Funkier_Than_Thou

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I'm getting that. Don't know how to delete this. Suggestions would be appreciated.

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AlanC9

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I don't think we can delete. I suppose you could report your own thread and a mod could delete it.

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Funkier_Than_Thou

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AlanC9 wrote...

I don't think we can delete. I suppose you could report your own thread and a mod could delete it.


That's worth a try. Thanks. :)

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Don't worry. I almost talked about Kal Reegar here, I have both tabs right next to each other always open on my phone. Except now I did talk about Kal Reegar here. Takin' a walk on the wild side.

edit: wait. I think the mods moved the whole thing. Sick. 

I am hoping for a sequel, even if it meants picking a canon. 

Modifié par Stakrin, 08 janvier 2014 - 08:19 .


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Doesn't necessarily have to be a prequel or sequel. You can go parallel reality route...or have it occurring in parallel to Shepard's actions. You could do the "lost in space" theme having the Alliance R&Ding alternative FTL travel that goes wrong pulling a science vessel or fleet of ships into our nearest neighboring galaxy. Mass Effect: Andromeda. You keep humans in the loop and introduce a whole new world full of aliens and assorted conflicts. Maybe a few different factions vying for power wooing the humans to tip the balance...that would create some great RPG elements. Lots of things you can do without canonizing ME3 ending I guess is my point.

Not that it really matters. We'll get what we get, and most of us will step up to play...and probably grow to love it like most all other Bioware games. I think ultimately...eventually, Shepard's story will get reset. Hopefully with a tighter and more consistent story and better overall game play through the entire series (just can't play ME1 anymore.)

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Refuse ending will be 'canon'.

Humans tried doing what the Protheans did, but actually succeed... a little. 3 humans surive their stasis pods and try to prevent the inevitable.

Instead of having to deal with a reluctant council, now you get to deal with reluctant, hostile and scared alien races you've never seen before, and you get to tell them a story they simply can't believe. So your first quest is:

Find one of Liara's capsules.

Holy crap, I just made a game.

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Stakrin wrote...

I am hoping for a sequel, even if it meants picking a canon. 


I am thinking they pick a canon ending and just never talk about it again. either control and the shep reapers just disappeared. or synthesis, life didn't really change as much as we thought it would, and the reapers just disappeared. doing destroy would be more difficult because the geth get destroyed and they are part of what makes mass effect mass effect (unless you destroyed the geth to begin with, then destroy would be the logical choice for canon ending)

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....the premise "it cannot be a sequel of the three endings" is faulty

Deus Ex says hi


Also, the op omits the possibility of a reboot

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A reboot would be disappointing.

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crimzontearz

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Not to me

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What would a reboot be in your mind?

A retell of Shepard's story?

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mhmbaSR1 wrote...

Stakrin wrote...

I am hoping for a sequel, even if it meants picking a canon. 


I am thinking they pick a canon ending and just never talk about it again. either control and the shep reapers just disappeared. or synthesis, life didn't really change as much as we thought it would, and the reapers just disappeared. doing destroy would be more difficult because the geth get destroyed and they are part of what makes mass effect mass effect (unless you destroyed the geth to begin with, then destroy would be the logical choice for canon ending)


right, that's my guess. I would hope for maybe a comic series or codex entries talking about epilogue a for squadmates, but even if not I am happy for a sequek

i feel like alternate or parrelllel reality takes away the point of Shepard's story. 

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I'd say if you'd bump up the date 30-40 years or so a sequel would be possible, you'd just need differing codex entries and a bit more dialogue to cover the difference, you don't even need a synthetic green skin mesh (for perhaps the green cybernetic junk vanished as the cybernetics became more seamlessly intergraded over time). and in most endings 30-40 years is plenty of time for galactic reconstruction to take place. though I could be wrong as I'm not an expert an any of the involved fields. in other words, IMHO.

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typos, still getting used to my new keyboard.

Modifié par Invisible Man, 08 janvier 2014 - 04:59 .