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I make saves in Mass Effect 2 that are just right before the Suicide Mission. So my save had:
-Garrus
-Grunt
-Miranda
-Jacob
-Thane
-Mordin
-Kasumi
-Tali
-Jack
-Legion

Dead in Mass Effect 2 with Kaidan dead in Mass Effect 1. The remaining ones that lived were Zaeed and Samara, both unloyal. In Mass Effect 3, I let Samara take her own life, and Zaeed dies protecting the Volus Ambassador. Ashley dies durig the Citadel coup, and Wrex dies in the gun fight with Shepard. Eve dies by the Turian Bomb, and Wiks dies by being shot by Shepard. Anderson is shot by Illusive Man(dies regardless), and EDI is killed by Destroy. Cortez is shot down, and Liara and James die during the run to the beam. 

So in the end, the dead ones were:

-Garrus
-Grunt
-Miranda
-Jacob
-Thane
-Mordin
-Kasumi
-Tali
-Jack
-Legion
-Samara
-Zaeed
-Wrex
-Kaidan
-Ashley
-EDI
-Liara
-James
-Cortez
-Anderson
-Eve
-Padok Wiks

I was so sad, but I wanted to see how much people could I kill off. This was low to medium EMS Destroy, and so, Earth is devastated but not destroyed. Normandy crew lives as well.:crying:
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As if ME3 wasn't depressing enough... how horrible!!! :(

Modifié par enayasoul, 09 janvier 2014 - 03:54 .


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This is just horrible.

Hackett is utterly disappointed.

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enayasoul wrote...

As if ME3 wasn't depressing enough... how horrible!!! :(


Besides how unpolished ME3 was, it had a lot of great and sad moments. I realized that all of those dead crew sums up ME3, ME2, and ME1 crew excluding Javik. 

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ArcherTactlenecks wrote...

This is just horrible.

Hackett is utterly disappointed.


Yeah, but what is he gonna do? He just stands there in his ship, and for some reason he survives any ending besides refusal.

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enayasoul wrote...

As if ME3 wasn't depressing enough... how horrible!!! :(

I was musing in another thread that something like this might be the only way some of the failures in ME3 make sense.

Play your Shep as a douche in ME1 and 2 killing everyone in ME2 except Kasumi (this works on a bug I think). Come ME3, you're in jail instead of out gathering troops and supplies because everyone that could've supported you is dead (Liara is still the outlier though), the ME2 squadmates can't be sidelined because they're dead and Kasumi's appearance goes from cowardice to resonable fear (after all you're the douche that killed everyone last time around).

Just let the rest play out.

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CrutchCricket wrote...

enayasoul wrote...

As if ME3 wasn't depressing enough... how horrible!!! :(

I was musing in another thread that something like this might be the only way some of the failures in ME3 make sense.

Play your Shep as a douche in ME1 and 2 killing everyone in ME2 except Kasumi (this works on a bug I think). Come ME3, you're in jail instead of out gathering troops and supplies because everyone that could've supported you is dead (Liara is still the outlier though), the ME2 squadmates can't be sidelined because they're dead and Kasumi's appearance goes from cowardice to resonable fear (after all you're the douche that killed everyone last time around).

Just let the rest play out.


If the character can be killed off after the Suicide Mission in another mission, then you can keep one Squad mate.

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I had an import with just Miranda and Thane alive. I did not bother helping save Oriana and purposely failed Thane's mission.

And then both of them got Leng'd in ME3.

It was kinda funny.

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you can have 51 dead with shepard alive with high ems

you can have 54 dead with shepard dead (1750-1900) and still get the memorial scene. below 1750, the door to the Normandy doesn't open

Modifié par themikefest, 09 janvier 2014 - 05:25 .


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You miss so much conversation when everyone's dead. I'm curious... what happens in Citadel DLC? Who comes to the party?

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Killing off Garrus is already enough to change the game's tone for me.

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Massa FX wrote...

You miss so much conversation when everyone's dead. I'm curious... what happens in Citadel DLC? Who comes to the party?

For me I had only Steve, Joker, Sam, Liara, edi and James at the party. It is very quiet and empty without the others.

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StreetMagic wrote...

Killing off Garrus is already enough to change the game's tone for me.

I have no problem killing off Garrus. It gives me an extra scene with Traynor.

Here's the scene

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StreetMagic wrote...

Killing off Garrus is already enough to change the game's tone for me.

I have no problem killing off Garrus. It gives me an extra scene with Traynor.

Here's the scene


Yeah, I know. I like that scene. [edit] Even without the romance I mean.

I have no problem with it either. They set him up as the kind of reminiscer and morale booster and active connection to ME2. I'd prefer Shepard being pissed off and lonely while on the ME3 Normandy. Plus, I dislike how he's the only connection to the Suicide Mission or the Collectors. He was cool, it's unfair to distill it all into Garrus. That was a huge squad.

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The more I think about it the more curious I become as to what that "douche/everbody dead" playthrough would be like. I don't have the heart to actually do it so I'd probably need to mod a save...

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CrutchCricket wrote...

The more I think about it the more curious I become as to what that "douche/everbody dead" playthrough would be like. I don't have the heart to actually do it so I'd probably need to mod a save...


I still avoid that extreme, just out of aesthetic reasons. That Citadel party portrait must look lame and depressing.

I try to at least get a good mix of female and male survivors too. Don't want a sausage fest.

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Yeah well ME3 is already depressing enough. At least now it'd be somewhat consistent.

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CrutchCricket wrote...

The more I think about it the more curious I become as to what that "douche/everbody dead" playthrough would be like. I don't have the heart to actually do it so I'd probably need to mod a save...


It's quick and easy also a bit heart breaking. I don't do any side missions or DLCs if I plan to grind a bad story. I always go Renegade for a bad story.

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CrutchCricket wrote...

Yeah well ME3 is already depressing enough. At least now it'd be somewhat consistent.


It's consistent for me with just Garrus gone. Add in a couple of others, plus the people who are forced to die in ME3, and you're already looking at 5 or 6 deaths. If you take too long rescuing the Cerberus crew too, then Ken Donnelly is depressed if you bring him back. It's not the same atmosphere without Gabby or Garrus chatting away.

I'd never kill a love interest though, for sure. That's basically what happened to Thane. His wife was killed because of his stupidity and he was forever messed up by it. I don't think Shepard would be any different. The tone of ME3 is depressing, but not to the point where Shepard isn't functional or seeking his own death.

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StreetMagic wrote...

It's consistent for me with just Garrus gone. Add in a couple of others, plus the people who are forced to die in ME3, and you're already looking at 5 or 6 deaths. If you take too long rescuing the Cerberus crew too, then Ken Donnelly is depressed if you bring him back. It's not the same atmosphere without Gabby or Garrus chatting away.

I'd never kill a love interest though, for sure. That's basically what happened to Thane. His wife was killed because of his stupidity and he was forever messed up by it. I don't think Shepard would be any different. The tone of ME3 is depressing, but not to the point where Shepard isn't functional or seeking his own death.

The problem is you can't actually be the "hero that does everything right" in ME3.

If you do everything right at the end of ME2 you finish with a full crew of the galaxy's best badasses on a ship that's OP against anything short of a Reaper, in one of the most impregnable positions in the galaxy, and being backed by a private network of spies and informants that would make even Palpatine envious. In other words you have the makings of your own empire, as well as ties and leverage into just about every government. You could if you were allowed to that is, give everyone a gun and point them in the direction the Reapers will be coming from, without them being any the wiser.

Cue ME3... you're in jail on bull**** charges so some ****s can gain political points with a race that's already dead, your ship's impounded and its upgrades gutted, your badasses are scattered, and apart from two notable examples appear to be doing ****-all of use while refusing to join you, your would-be sanctuary has been taken and thus sped up/enabled the launch of the worst stormtooper homage to date and your vaunted Shadow Broker is crawling through vents because she's mildly menaced by two mooks.

No, I think it's easier to reconcile a failShep with this reality. If Shepard didn't do everything right, if he's an insufferable ****** and a moron to boot, who got everyone killed, and any survivors are wary and mistrustful, where he starts in ME3 and how it unfolds from there starts to flow a lot more smoothly. You can also play up the realistically shellshocked soldier angle, say it's all getting to him, the war, the losses. He's coming apart at the seams. Even those stupid nightmare sequences would have a place, though the damnable kid still doesn't.

I doubt it's the story any of us wanted. But... it is what it is.

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You could also get everybody including Shepard killed in ME2. Then 3 never happened. Hopefully Joker obeyed her last order and warned everybody.

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CrutchCricket wrote...

The problem is you can't actually be the "hero that does everything right" in ME3.

If you do everything right at the end of ME2 you finish with a full crew of the galaxy's best badasses on a ship that's OP against anything short of a Reaper, in one of the most impregnable positions in the galaxy, and being backed by a private network of spies and informants that would make even Palpatine envious. In other words you have the makings of your own empire, as well as ties and leverage into just about every government. You could if you were allowed to that is, give everyone a gun and point them in the direction the Reapers will be coming from, without them being any the wiser.

Cue ME3... you're in jail on bull**** charges so some ****s can gain political points with a race that's already dead, your ship's impounded and its upgrades gutted, your badasses are scattered, and apart from two notable examples appear to be doing ****-all of use while refusing to join you, your would-be sanctuary has been taken and thus sped up/enabled the launch of the worst stormtooper homage to date and your vaunted Shadow Broker is crawling through vents because she's mildly menaced by two mooks.

No, I think it's easier to reconcile a failShep with this reality. If Shepard didn't do everything right, if he's an insufferable ****** and a moron to boot, who got everyone killed, and any survivors are wary and mistrustful, where he starts in ME3 and how it unfolds from there starts to flow a lot more smoothly. You can also play up the realistically shellshocked soldier angle, say it's all getting to him, the war, the losses. He's coming apart at the seams. Even those stupid nightmare sequences would have a place, though the damnable kid still doesn't.

I doubt it's the story any of us wanted. But... it is what it is.


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I'm pretty sure the game is hard-coded to have two henchmen at every point, so I very much doubt that you can get down to one squadmate in me2 even if you try to kill Zaeed after the SM.

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I have a saved game I picked up on that masseffectsaves site. Zaeed and Kasumi are the only survivors of a very renegade game. I played it as far as the genophage arc and found it too depressing to continue. Some of the dialogue was kinda cool, but the Normandy was practically a ghost ship. When I started discouraging the Joker/EDI relationship arc, I just thought, 'Nah I don't want to do this'.

EDIT: Does it get more enjoyable later on?

Modifié par SporkFu, 09 janvier 2014 - 08:16 .