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[dreamgazer]

David7204 wrote...

I don't know how many times I've had to say this. No magic wands. Magic wands are not good writing. Is that clear enough to you, Iakus? That your magic thermal weapons, magic 'energy weapons' are crap writing? You don't seem to be the grasping the simple premise that a magic solution is a crap solution.

A magic wand brought Shepard's brain back to life in Project Lazarus. 

And iakus' quasi-conventional concept was better than yours, sport.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

dreamgazer wrote...

David7204 wrote...

I don't know how many times I've had to say this. No magic wands. Magic wands are not good writing. Is that clear enough to you, Iakus? That your magic thermal weapons, magic 'energy weapons' are crap writing? You don't seem to be the grasping the simple premise that a magic solution is a crap solution.

A magic wand brought Shepard's brain back to life in Project Lazarus. 

And iakus' quasi-conventional concept was better than yours, sport.

That's not going to a compute with him.

He's essentially this guy, bar the talent.

[spirosz]

A magic wand also made Liara the Shadow Broker... so we can go on.

[Steelcan]

spirosz wrote...

A magic wand also made Liara the Shadow Broker... so we can go on.

BUT HER HEROISM AND CHARACTERIZATION

[themikefest]

David7204 wrote...

Are we really still suggestion these, frankly, stupid ideas?

I don't know how many times I've had to say this. No magic wands. Magic wands are not good writing. Is that clear enough to you, Iakus? That your magic thermal weapons, magic 'energy weapons' are crap writing? You don't seem to be the grasping the simple premise that a magic solution is a crap solution.

On top of that, i seriously doubt you have much understanding at all of these 'ideas' you're throwing out.

Again with the word stupid.

How do you know these ideas won't work? When it comes to the reapers every idea is on the table no matter how far-fetched it is.

If one idea doesn't work, try another one. Adapt and overcome.

[ImaginaryMatter]

iakus wrote...

I'm not talking about magic wands.  I'm talking about adapting to unconventional means of combat to make fighting the Reapers less of a "You're curb-stomped.  Nothing you did mattered" 

While I admit after all the time wasted in ME2, a magic wand is sadly necessary to end the story (and that's just what the Crucible is, a big red, green, and blue magic wand.  And a cursed one at that) I submit that it could have, in fact should have, been done better

I think what David means by magic is any solution other than bonding together using the power of heroism to defeat your enemies. The problem is we're all limited by trying to find a sensible way to defeat the Reapers like tactics or science, when the real thematic or whatever true way to defeat the Reapers is to just be couragous and honorable about it and blind the Reapers into stupidity with a blazing display of heroism.

Modifié par ImaginaryMatter, 10 janvier 2014 - 09:25 .

[ImaginaryMatter]

David7204 wrote...

I don't know how many times I've had to say this. No magic wands. Magic wands are not good writing. Is that clear enough to you, Iakus? That your magic thermal weapons, magic 'energy weapons' are crap writing? You don't seem to be the grasping the simple premise that a magic solution is a crap solution.

The Harry Potter series was well written and it was chock full of magic wands.

[AlanC9]

von uber wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...


Yes, it is. Give it up.

Be a fairly quiet board if we all did that though.

Hah! Got me there.

[FlyingSquirrel]

A superweapon or some sort of super-device (the Crucible is arguably only a "weapon" if you choose Destroy) would have to be key to defeating the Reapers given the extent to which the narrative built up their apparent power and the length of time for which they've been doing this. It would have been even more unbelievable if this cycle managed to succeed where thousands of others failed through conventional military tactics with the assumption that somehow similar methods were just less effective when employed by protheans, inusannon, etc.

The idea that nobody ever finds it far enough ahead of time to have it ready by the time the Reapers arrive does seem like a stretch at first glance. On the other hand, I don't think the Reapers always necessarily wait 50,000 years between harvests - since they were aware of the Crucible at some point, maybe they typically started their invasions once they noticed anybody working on it.

But really, the mistake Bioware made was in making the Reapers too powerful. It would be like structuring a story around a flock of sparrows trying to stop a hurricane - only something completely out of left field *could* do it.

[AlanC9]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

Why don't we just have the crucible activate the mass relay inside the citadel and link it to the omega relay, and turn it into a black hole corridor that sucks all the reapers, the citadel, earth, and the fleet, into a giant black hole, where they die.

Detonating the Citadel Relay would work too; the Reapers are too close to the blast to FTL out before it hits.

[Seboist]

dreamgazer wrote...

David7204 wrote...

I don't know how many times I've had to say this. No magic wands. Magic wands are not good writing. Is that clear enough to you, Iakus? That your magic thermal weapons, magic 'energy weapons' are crap writing? You don't seem to be the grasping the simple premise that a magic solution is a crap solution.

A magic wand brought Shepard's brain back to life in Project Lazarus. 

And iakus' quasi-conventional concept was better than yours, sport.

You're presuming Shepard ever had a brain to begin with.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Seboist wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

David7204 wrote...

I don't know how many times I've had to say this. No magic wands. Magic wands are not good writing. Is that clear enough to you, Iakus? That your magic thermal weapons, magic 'energy weapons' are crap writing? You don't seem to be the grasping the simple premise that a magic solution is a crap solution.

A magic wand brought Shepard's brain back to life in Project Lazarus. 

And iakus' quasi-conventional concept was better than yours, sport.

You're presuming Shepard ever had a brain to begin with.

Well, I know anyone who played full paragon and full renegade don't.

In between is where things get interesting.

[David7204]

iakus wrote...

I am not a physicist, so no,k  I do not know precisely what it is.  However, I do have a layman's idea of what it is:

If you don't know what it is, putting it forth as a serious suggestion it is not particularly wise.

And condemning the writers for not using it is downright moronic.

Let's clear this up here and now. A 'bomb-pumped laser warhead' makes no sense. It sounds to me like a warhead with a ridiculously complex and cumbersome targeting laser. Which is downright silly.

Modifié par David7204, 10 janvier 2014 - 09:31 .

[MassivelyEffective0730]

David7204 wrote...

iakus wrote...

I am not a physicist, so no,k  I do not know precisely what it is.  However, I do have a layman's idea of what it is:

If you don't know what it is, putting it forth as a serious suggestion it is not particularly wise.

And condemning the writers for not using it is downright moronic.

1) He knows the general idea. And anyway, are you saying that a person who doesn't know what something is or does means he's automatically wrong?

2) He didn't 'condemn' the writers for not using it. You are the only person suggesting this. As far as I've seen, he's only condemned them for things they did put it, not for idea's they didn't use.

[David7204]

No, I really don't think he does. He seems to think this is some of sort of bomb that releases lasers.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

David7204 wrote...
Let's clear this up here and now. A 'bomb-pumped laser warhead' makes no sense. It sounds to me like a warhead with a ridiculously complex and cumbersome targeting laser. Which is downright silly.

I know, it's completely silly right?

[MassivelyEffective0730]

David7204 wrote...

No, I really don't think he does. He seems to think this is some of sort of bomb that releases lasers.

Well, bombs do release lasers. Guiding lasers. It's how they hit their target.

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 10 janvier 2014 - 09:36 .

[Iakus]

ImaginaryMatter wrote...

I think what David means by magic is any solution other than bonding together using the power of heroism to defeat your enemies. The problem is we're all limited by trying to find a sensible way to defeat the Reapers like tactics or science, when the real thematic or whatever true way to defeat the Reapers is to just be couragous and honorable about it and blind the Reapers into stupidity with a blazing display of heroism.

I have nothing against heroism, courage, and honor.  But the problem with the Crucible is that it's exactly what David calls a "magic wand"  It works because it has to work, not because what it does makes any sense.  HEck what it does is a complete mystery right up until the closing moments of the game.  Just like "cnventional means" won't work against the Reapers for no other reason than they can't work or the Crucible would be redundant.

[dreamgazer]

Seboist wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

David7204 wrote...

I don't know how many times I've had to say this. No magic wands. Magic wands are not good writing. Is that clear enough to you, Iakus? That your magic thermal weapons, magic 'energy weapons' are crap writing? You don't seem to be the grasping the simple premise that a magic solution is a crap solution.

A magic wand brought Shepard's brain back to life in Project Lazarus. 

And iakus' quasi-conventional concept was better than yours, sport.

You're presuming Shepard ever had a brain to begin with.

[spirosz]

David7204 wrote...

No, I really don't think he does. He seems to think this is some of sort of bomb that releases lasers.

A bomb can release lasers.  

[David7204]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

David7204 wrote...

No, I really don't think he does. He seems to think this is some of sort of bomb that releases lasers.

Well, bombs do release lasers. Guiding lasers. It's how they hit they're target.

A laser-guided bomb is not a bomb-pumped laser. Having a bomb-pumped guiding laser makes no sense.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

David7204 wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

David7204 wrote...

No, I really don't think he does. He seems to think this is some of sort of bomb that releases lasers.

Well, bombs do release lasers. Guiding lasers. It's how they hit they're target.

A laser-guided bomb is not a bomb-pumped laser. Having a bomb-pumped guiding laser makes no sense.

Sounds like he meant laser guided bomb or laser guided missile. The guiding part gave it away. Granted, I don't know what the hell he's saying by the bomb-pumped part, but points for trying.

[AresKeith]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Seboist wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

David7204 wrote...

I don't know how many times I've had to say this. No magic wands. Magic wands are not good writing. Is that clear enough to you, Iakus? That your magic thermal weapons, magic 'energy weapons' are crap writing? You don't seem to be the grasping the simple premise that a magic solution is a crap solution.

A magic wand brought Shepard's brain back to life in Project Lazarus. 

And iakus' quasi-conventional concept was better than yours, sport.

You're presuming Shepard ever had a brain to begin with.

Well, I know anyone who played full paragon and full renegade don't.

In between is where things get interesting.

Until it felt bi-polar

[Iakus]

David7204 wrote...

iakus wrote...

I am not a physicist, so no,k  I do not know precisely what it is.  However, I do have a layman's idea of what it is:

If you don't know what it is, putting it forth as a serious suggestion it is not particularly wise.

And condemning the writers for not using it is downright moronic.

Let's clear this up here and now. A 'bomb-pumped laser warhead' makes no sense. It sounds to me like a warhead with a ridiculously complex and cumbersome targeting laser. Which is downright silly.

You didn't even click on the link did you?

Such devices were worked on in the 1970's and 1980s as a directed energy weapon to shoot down ICBMs (you know, the Strategic Defense Initiative) before it was determined that the technology's not there yet.  Science fiction author David Weber uses the concept in ship-to-ship combat in his Honor Harrington series

[MassivelyEffective0730]

iakus wrote...

You didn't even click on the link did you?

Such devices were worked on in the 1970's and 1980s as a directed energy weapon to shoot down ICBMs (you know, the Strategic Defense Initiative) before it was determined that the technology's not there yet.  Science fiction author David Weber uses the concept in ship-to-ship combat in his Honor Harrington series

You mean the Boeing YAL-1? They canceled that not too long ago. The concept was successful, but it was way too expensive to maintain and use practically.