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[AresKeith]

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

General TSAR wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...
Nope and i don't intend to but i do know that the current divine is suppose to be nice but that's irrelevant to me since i don't like what she and the chantry stands for as a whole and i'm going to kill her.

How do you know you have such an option sweetheart?

I don't i'm just hoping there is but i suspect Bioware will make me befriend her or make all the dialog i can say be respectful or something else equally awful.

I can only hope 

[Texhnolyze101]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...


Blowing up chantrys would be sending a message to the divine that once i deal with the templars and the fade tear she and the rest of her associates are next on my hit list.

That's a rather pointless crusade to go on after a war that will probably ravage the land. If anything, you'll need the Chantrys to house all of the displaced people after the war.

But you know, if your Inquisitor wants to pointlessly and illogically destroy resources, then I guess that's his peragotive. 

The chantry doesn't offer anything i see worth keeping them around for and all those displaced people can  just rebuild whatever crappy town they lived in before.

Sounds like a pretty worthless hero to me.

My character is only a hero because Bioware plot demands it because its defiantly not something i want to be.

Modifié par 101ezylonhxeT, 10 janvier 2014 - 01:31 .

[Orian Tabris]

AresKeith wrote...

Silfren wrote...

Orian Tabris wrote...

Silfren wrote...

Rassler wrote...

Vengeace only takes over when Anders is angry.

Or in the Fade, or when Anders is fighting against what Vengeance wants.  But my point has nothing to do when and how Vengeance is able to assume control, but rather that it is incorrect to say that Vengeance can't take him over.  He indisputably can and does.

I NEVER said that Vengeance CAN'T take him over. I am saying that it takes over Anders' body and then controls his body.

Yes, you did.

Orian Tabris wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Pretty sure by this time Vengeance took over if still alive

Vengeance
can't take over him. They "are as one." The only thing vegeance can do
is replace him in the mortal realm, fulltime (ignoring the fact that it
was actually in the mortal realm anyway, since it was unable to do
anything). Eventually Vengeance might replace him in the mortal realm,
while Anders replaces it in the Fade.

Basically, Vengeance is just slowly leaving the Fade and entering the mortal realm permanently, for good(?).

Like I said, he's trolling

I'm not a troll! This is me trolling...

Wow, you are such an idiot. Seriously, do you even know what a fullstop is? Hint, hint.

[Angrywolves]

Gaider has pretty much hinted Anders won't return.But he also hints Vengeance might.

[Grieving Natashina]

Maybe it's just me...but name calling is pretty childish. C'mon guys, knock it off with the insults.

<sigh> Gamers...

[Lulupab]

Starsyn wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Orian Tabris wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

@Orian

Does Anders forget what Justice does because he's in the Fade at the time that Justice takes over his body?

No, the memories of the spirit and the host are not affected with any of the transitions.

Are you saying Anders doesn't lose memory in the transitions?

Hanar is right.  While Anders admits it a little on the friendship path, as a rival he makes that quite clear.

And this turned into a typical Anders thread.  Sorry OP, I know you tried. 

I'll be heading back to Origins in a few.  Getting close to the Landsmeet, and I'm looking forward to completing Awakenings for the first time. 

Its actually good it turned on like this. This is full proof people care about Anders and Justice, which was my point. I hope mods are reading.

we NEED to know what happens to them and a codex/hearing about it in game wont cut it.

Modifié par Rassler, 10 janvier 2014 - 01:35 .

[Mr.House]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...


My character is only a hero because Bioware plot demands it because its defiantly not something i want to be.

Sooo why do you play Bioware games then?

Power fantasy.

[Silfren]

Mr.House wrote...

Silfren wrote...

HiroVoid wrote...

I like his character(especially compared to Awakening), though I see him more as a tragic character than a heroic one.

+1 

Anders is one of the best examples of tragic characters I've seen in a while.

One has to feel sorry for the character so they can be labled tragic.

I don't think that is necessarily true, but either way, many players DO feel sorry for him, so if you were trying to imply that he can't be tragic because nobody feels sorry for him...

[Grieving Natashina]

@Rassler: No offense, but there is a new thread about how great or awful Anders is about once every 3-4 days. I was hoping for something different, but eh..oh well.

[Silfren]

Rassler wrote...

Its actually good it turned on like this. This is full proof people care about Anders and Justice, which was my point. I hope mods are reading.

we NEED to know hat happens to them and a codex/hearing about it in game wont cut it.

That's kind of silly.  I don't think Bioware was somehow unaware that Anders has a great many fans before this thread was created 

Modifié par Silfren, 10 janvier 2014 - 01:35 .

[General TSAR]

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

I don't i'm just hoping there is but i suspect Bioware will make me befriend her or make all the dialog i can say be respectful or something else equally awful.

Oh you poor butthurt dame, I didn't know acting civilized toward the pope of the Dragon Age Universe is so painful to you.

[Orian Tabris]

Let me clarify.

Vengeance takes over Ander's body, THEN that spirit takes control of that body.

Forget any errors I've made because the above is the sementical truth.

Example:
Once Vengeance completely takes over Anders' body, it is then able to control the body permanently (or until the body/mind is dead.. whichever it is).

[AresKeith]

Rassler wrote...

Its actually good it turned on like this. This is full proof people care about Anders and Justice, which was my point. I hope mods are reading.

we NEED to know hat happens to them and a codex/hearing about it in game wont cut it.

From what's going on in this thread a codex/hearing would work just fine or him appearing with Vengeance now in control if players spared him or just Justice because players killed Anders

[Cainhurst Crow]

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...


Blowing up chantrys would be sending a message to the divine that once i deal with the templars and the fade tear she and the rest of her associates are next on my hit list.

That's a rather pointless crusade to go on after a war that will probably ravage the land. If anything, you'll need the Chantrys to house all of the displaced people after the war.

But you know, if your Inquisitor wants to pointlessly and illogically destroy resources, then I guess that's his peragotive. 

The chantry doesn't offer anything i see worth keeping them around for and all those displaced people can  just rebuild whatever crappy town they lived in before.

Education. Housing. Relief for the needy. Shelter to the refugees in times of crisis.

Sounds like a lot more to offer then the other lords of the land do.

[Orian Tabris]

Silfren wrote...

Rassler wrote...

Its actually good it turned on like this. This is full proof people care about Anders and Justice, which was my point. I hope mods are reading.

we NEED to know hat happens to them and a codex/hearing about it in game wont cut it.

That's kind of silly.  I don't think Bioware was somehow unaware that Anders has a great many fans before this thread was created

Indeed.

A codex will have to cut it. Hearing about it in the game will only cut it if there is a codex to go with it.

[Lulupab]

Silfren wrote...

Rassler wrote...

Starsyn wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Orian Tabris wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

@Orian

Does Anders forget what Justice does because he's in the Fade at the time that Justice takes over his body?

No, the memories of the spirit and the host are not affected with any of the transitions.

Are you saying Anders doesn't lose memory in the transitions?

Hanar is right.  While Anders admits it a little on the friendship path, as a rival he makes that quite clear.

And this turned into a typical Anders thread.  Sorry OP, I know you tried. 

I'll be heading back to Origins in a few.  Getting close to the Landsmeet, and I'm looking forward to completing Awakenings for the first time. 

Its actually good it turned on like this. This is full proof people care about Anders and Justice, which was my point. I hope mods are reading.

we NEED to know what happens to them and a codex/hearing about it in game wont cut it.

That's kind of silly.  I don't think Bioware was somehow unaware that Anders has a great many fans before this thread was created 

I don't see how reminding them that we care is silly  There are Anders fans who are totally in love with him and Bioware knows about them. But there are those that want to know what happens to him explained fully even though they are not really a fan, these people matter too. Can you see how many different opinions/ideas people have about him? Probably 99% of them are wrong and only inquisition can tell us which 1% of them are true.

[TK514]

Rassler wrote...

Its actually good it turned on like this. This is full proof people care about Anders and Justice, which was my point. I hope mods are reading.

we NEED to know what happens to them and a codex/hearing about it in game wont cut it.

with less than a year to go (or just over, if my assumption about BioWare time holds) you're way too late for them to include him if he hadn't been.

[Silfren]

Rassler wrote...
I don't see how reminding them that we care is silly  There are Anders fans who are totally in love with him and Bioware knows about them. But there are those that want to know what happens to him explained fully even though they are not really a fan, these people matter too. Can you see how many different opinions/ideas people have about him? Probably 99% of them are wrong and only inquisition can tell us which 1% of them are true.

Again, the idea that Bioware somehow didn't know that before this thread existed is silly.

Also, instead of keeping these quote trees so massive, would it hurt to cut them down so you're not quoting five conversations that are no longer pertinent?  There's no need to let them get so unwieldy.

Modifié par Silfren, 10 janvier 2014 - 01:44 .

[Orian Tabris]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...


Blowing up chantrys would be sending a message to the divine that once i deal with the templars and the fade tear she and the rest of her associates are next on my hit list.

That's a rather pointless crusade to go on after a war that will probably ravage the land. If anything, you'll need the Chantrys to house all of the displaced people after the war.

But you know, if your Inquisitor wants to pointlessly and illogically destroy resources, then I guess that's his peragotive. 

The chantry doesn't offer anything i see worth keeping them around for and all those displaced people can  just rebuild whatever crappy town they lived in before.

Education. Housing. Relief for the needy. Shelter to the refugees in times of crisis.

Sounds like a lot more to offer then the other lords of the land do.

The second thing is basically the same as the third thing. The fourth thng is basically the same as the third thing.

As for education, who is it that provides people with an education in Thedas? I know that there's a thread for that. Anyway, the Dalish are educated by each other, without the Chantry, and the city elves are probably not educated by the Chantry, but I'm not sure. However, the "education" the Chantry provides includes their own beliefs, which they DON'T need to give to people. They do it because that's what they believe in, and that's what they want you to believe in.

[Texhnolyze101]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...


My character is only a hero because Bioware plot demands it because its defiantly not something i want to be.

Sooo why do you play Bioware games then?

Well other then DA2 all of their games i have played have been fun.