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[MrMrPendragon]

Orian Tabris wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Veruin wrote...

Rassler wrote...
 I'm here to discuss what happens if he is spared. Stop arguing about numbers, please. 

You already got your answer.  Because it's an optional choice, it'll be a cameo/codex.  There is no way he will play any significant role.

He might not even BE Anders anymore if spared

Aha! "And here we go, again!"

This is the perfect example of how pathetic the BSN is. Always going around in circles... Ares, someone already said that.

Lol

We'd all be saying the same thing for 10 pages.

[Orian Tabris]

andy69156915 wrote...

Orian Tabris wrote...
So... his post was boring as heck?


To me, that post you quoted was an example of just how jaded and lacking of faith, people are of BioWare.

I think House meant that the scenario of Justice or Anders being the big bad guy of DAI would be a boring scenario, not my post.

You think? Well, I still believe you were jaded and/or lacking in faith.

[rapscallioness]

[andy6915]

Orian Tabris wrote...

You think? Well, I still believe you were jaded and/or lacking in faith.

Nope, I'm quite hopeful and optimistic. I usually am about Bioware games. Also, I actually would find Justice being the big bad interesting, I didn't say I personally thought that scenario would be boring.

[Grieving Natashina]

andy69156915 wrote...

Honestly, a Justice controlled Anders or Justice freed from him upon Anders' death (whether you killed him or not, the spirit will live on) being the one behind the Veil tear wouldn't surprise me.

Nothing personal, but no.  No no no.  Look, I like Anders and some returning characters is nice.  I look forward to seeing Cass, Varric, Cullen, Leliana, Morrigan and Flemeth coming back.  If it's handled well, then I'm all for it.

I would be pretty disgusted by the writers for their lack of imagination of that turned out to be the case.  We need a new Big Bad, as I think Anders/Vengence would be very boring at this point.   There should be a few NPC mentions about his actions, and maybe a codex on his fate.  I would say I'd be quite surprised if Cass and Varric don't talk about it to the Inquisitor at least once.  Same with Cullen, with the fate of Meredith mentioned by him as well.

This does bring up an idea I had though.  I'm wondering if there might be more spirits looking for willing people to help them, since the Veil tears affect them too.  I'm beginning to wonder if intent of the spirit is what separates those connected to the spirits from abominations.  This exchange in Awakenings makes me wonder even more:

Anders Why do spirits seek out mages? I've always wondered.
Justice: You speak of demons. I am not a demon.
Anders: Aren't demons simply spirits with unique and sparkling personalities?
Justice: They have been perverted by their desires.

[/list]Since we've only seen two unions between spirits and mages (I don't quite count Kristoff, since he was dead and all,) this could be an interesting side effect to the war.  Some might have the fortitude/inner will/ect to resist becoming demonic in their desires, such as Wynne/Faith.  Others, well...I don't think I need to add anything more to that.  

Modifié par Starsyn, 10 janvier 2014 - 12:07 .

[Mr.House]

andy69156915 wrote...

Orian Tabris wrote...
So... his post was boring as heck?


To me, that post you quoted was an example of just how jaded and lacking of faith, people are of BioWare.

I think House meant that the scenario of Justice or Anders being the big bad guy of DAI would be a boring scenario, not my post.

Indeed.

[Texhnolyze101]

There is no real logical reason to kill Anders.

[Orian Tabris]

ArcherTactlenecks wrote...

Orian Tabris wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Veruin wrote...

Rassler wrote...
 I'm here to discuss what happens if he is spared. Stop arguing about numbers, please. 

You already got your answer.  Because it's an optional choice, it'll be a cameo/codex.  There is no way he will play any significant role.

He might not even BE Anders anymore if spared

Aha! "And here we go, again!"

This is the perfect example of how pathetic the BSN is. Always going around in circles... Ares, someone already said that.

Lol

We'd all be saying the same thing for 10 pages.

Indeed. And this is what happens when moderators aren't strict, or on the site/forum enough.

This is how these threads go on forever. ...And yet, my threads never end up like this. I had one thread that was long, but it's on the Off-topic forum, and that forum has threads that go on for 100+ pages (even 1000+!).

[wolfhowwl]

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

There is no real logical reason to kill Anders.

Nah, I had a good reason after he lost control and tried to kill that mage girl.

[Orian Tabris]

andy69156915 wrote...

Orian Tabris wrote...

You think? Well, I still believe you were jaded and/or lacking in faith.

Nope, I'm quite hopeful and optimistic. I usually am about Bioware games. Also, I actually would find Justice being the big bad interesting, I didn't say I personally thought that scenario would be boring.

I knew you didn't think the idea was boring... Where'd you get that idea from?

[Mr.House]

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

There is no real logical reason to kill Anders.

There are alot of reasons to kill Anders.

[andy6915]

Who could be behind it? Lambert? Connor? A greater Pride Demon (my personal pet theory)? Corypheus? Would Anders/Justice really be so much less interesting than this list?

[Orian Tabris]

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

There is no real logical reason to kill Anders.

Let's not go there...

[Orian Tabris]

wolfhowwl wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

There is no real logical reason to kill Anders.

Nah, I had a good reason after he lost control and tried to kill that mage girl.

I assume you mean the fact that he started losing himself, not because he did something you thought was stupid. The latter of which is something most people killed him for.

[Mr.House]

andy69156915 wrote...

Who could be behind it? Lambert? Connor? A greater Pride Demon (my personal pet theory)? Corypheus? Would Anders/Justice really be so much less interesting than this list?

Corypheus is 1000x more intresting then Anders/Justice.

[Texhnolyze101]

wolfhowwl wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

There is no real logical reason to kill Anders.

Nah, I had a good reason after he lost control and tried to kill that mage girl.

He kept himself under control after that so i still see no logical reason to kill him.

Modifié par 101ezylonhxeT, 10 janvier 2014 - 12:12 .

[Angrywolves]

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

There is no real logical reason to kill Anders.

He blew up the chantry in Kirkwall and started the mage-templar war..Sufficient reason for his execution.

[Texhnolyze101]

Orian Tabris wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

There is no real logical reason to kill Anders.

Let's not go there...

 Lets not go where?

[HiroVoid]

The person responsible for the veil tear is almost certainly a new character though I suspect Flemeth may have a hand in it even if she's not the main antagonist.

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

wolfhowwl wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

There is no real logical reason to kill Anders.

Nah, I had a good reason after he lost control and tried to kill that mage girl.

He kept himself under control after that so i still see no logical reason to kill him.

By that logic, every murderer who killed in the heat of the moment should be free to go.

[Orian Tabris]

Mr.House wrote...

andy69156915 wrote...

Who could be behind it? Lambert? Connor? A greater Pride Demon (my personal pet theory)? Corypheus? Would Anders/Justice really be so much less interesting than this list?

Corypheus is 1000x more intresting then Anders/Justice.

The hell it is. Corypheus is just a magister who entered the Black City. He's dead in all of my playthroughs, anyway. Anders survives a lot more than Corypheus does... Can Corypheus even live through his encounter with Hawke?

[The Elder King]

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Orian Tabris wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

There is no real logical reason to kill Anders.

Let's not go there...

 Lets not go where?

Into discussing if there were reasons to kill Anders.

[andy6915]

I killed him because he just kept getting worse. He was an abomination who was losing more and more control with every passing year, becoming increasingly violent and unhinged with every passing "act" of the game. In act 1, fairly soon after his possession, he was still more or less Anders. But as time went on, Anders became less himself and more a vengeful fade creature. I mean, by the end he's blowing up buildings! That's after 10 years. What would another 5 years do to the guy if you spare him? Killing non-mages in the street, deciding that making a second Tevinter is a good idea and that keeping non-mage slaves is how it should be? For goodness sakes, he's already close to being like that as of act 3. Proof? If you give Fenris back to his master, Ander APPROVES of it, he even mocks Fenris as he gets taken and finds it funny. You think act 1 Anders would have done that? No, he wouldn't have. He needed to die because he's becoming a bigger threat to everyone, even other mages, with every passing year because Vengeance is taking more control as time goes on.

It needed to stop. I stopped his slope down to dangerous insanity before it went any further the only way I could... Death. It was a mercy kill, really. The old Anders would have been terrified of what he become like by the time of his death. Act 1 Anders would have begged me to kill his act 3 self. I like Anders. It's just a shame what Vengeance warped him into.

[Veruin]

101ezylonhxeT wrote...
He kept himself under control after that so i still see no logical reason to kill him.

And was that control because it was no longer a power struggle between two spirits fighting over a body, as they became *1* or was it because he "mastered" the spirit.  I'm inclined to go with the former

hhh89 wrote...

Into discussing if there were reasons to kill Anders.

Not like this thread has a better purpose.

Modifié par Veruin, 10 janvier 2014 - 12:16 .