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[Reigned]

Was discussing with some friends the possibilities and I know evryone would rather much just wait until they publish the finer details to us. However, if ME4's story continues after whatever decision we made, what do you think will be the universal plot to ensure all decisions are taken into account? Especially since this latest game will be next gen, the possibility of save data carrying over to define the MEU is null, unless they do like a questionaire like ME:Genesis for ME2. It's been rather difficult to hypothsize of one, just seeing what other interesting ideas are out there in the community...

[AlanC9]

I don't think they're going to do a save import at all.

[Reigned]

Yeah, I definitely find it very impossible for a save import to be done at all. However, it's possible a ME: Genesis type thing could be done to have the user answer every important decision throughout the series.

[AlanC9]

I don't think that's practical. Too many choices, too divergent. Shepard is retired or dead. Her choices should  retire with her.

Modifié par AlanC9, 10 janvier 2014 - 04:21 .

[Reigned]

Of course retired or dead, I agree with you there. But Sheps decisions still shape a very interesting universe for the next protagonists, the most important decision being her/his very last one.

[DeinonSlayer]

They won't do save import. If it were PC-exclusive they potentially could (though they'd really have their work cut out for them), but thanks to the transition to the next generation of consoles they won't.

[SwobyJ]

Shepard's Journey was a separate journey in another Mass Effect universe, in a way.

[SwobyJ]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

They won't do save import. If it were PC-exclusive they potentially could (though they'd really have their work cut out for them), but thanks to the transition to the next generation of consoles they won't.

I don't know why you guys say this in a world where Dragon Age Keep exists. (and yep, DA:I will be for both last and current gen)

It's not like 100s+ of conditions need to transfer. Or even matter. Shepard's character deal is done, in itself.

Modifié par SwobyJ, 10 janvier 2014 - 04:36 .

[Steelcan]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

They won't do save import. If it were PC-exclusive they potentially could (though they'd really have their work cut out for them), but thanks to the transition to the next generation of consoles they won't.

Or because they want a blank slate on the nest game

[Reigned]

Yeah, the ONLY platform that could do a import would be pc (insert Master Race comment), of course, as you said they would definitely have their work cut out for them.

@SwobyJ - Clarify?

[spirosz]

I'd rather it stay away from any type of import.

[Reigned]

spirosz wrote...

I'd rather it stay away from any type of import.

I feel you on that, everyone knows that a clean slate will be done. I just see the only possible way a true clean slate would be prequel before the Reaping or some event that was taking place during Shepards series. Kind of like Halo 3 and Halo 3: ODST type poop.

[SwobyJ]

Reigned wrote...

Yeah, the ONLY platform that could do a import would be pc (insert Master Race comment), of course, as you said they would definitely have their work cut out for them.

@SwobyJ - Clarify?

Huh?

Dragon Age Keep. DA:O or DAII 'import' system for DA:I. DA:I will be on PS3 and XB360, but ALSO PS4 and XB1 (and PC).

It's not a literal 'transfer' system (though I think it'll include that capability for cases where it can be done).

You just fill in your choices, character info, etc etc.

Then it works.

People at BSN are too negative. It's not that very very impossible to set up story states for future gen games. They're basically giving us an advanced save state editor for Dragon Age, and given how little those games were connected between DA:O and DAII, I'll damn well predict they'll do the same for 'ME4'.

Modifié par SwobyJ, 10 janvier 2014 - 04:50 .

[SwobyJ]

Why do we need a clean slate? Because we saw some pretty colors, Reapers, and green squiggly lines? Because 0-3 species may or may not be extinct?

[spirosz]

They can still do a sequel with no ties to Shepard's story. Though a canon storyline might ****** off a fanbase, but I think it will strengthen their writing ability.

[MrMrPendragon]

ME4 should happen in the same universe. No prequels, reboots, or spin offs. That just ruins the continuity of the series.

That's what I think anyway.

[SwobyJ]

They don't even need a fully canon story. *shrug* man people have been negative about Bioware's abilities since DAII, SWTOR, and ME3's ending

[spirosz]

SwobyJ wrote...

Why do we need a clean slate? Because we saw some pretty colors, Reapers, and green squiggly lines? Because 0-3 species may or may not be extinct?

The endings are bigger than some "colours" and squiggly lines.

[spirosz]

SwobyJ wrote...

They don't even need a fully canon story. *shrug* man people have been negative about Bioware's abilities since DAII, SWTOR, and ME3's ending

Oh I'm sorry, how many more attemps do they need? 

[SlottsMachine]

They could copy Deus Ex Invisible War and come up with a weird ass canon that draws from all the endings. Hahahahahahahahahaha.

[MrMrPendragon]

spirosz wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

They don't even need a fully canon story. *shrug* man people have been negative about Bioware's abilities since DAII, SWTOR, and ME3's ending

Oh I'm sorry, how many more attemps do they need? 

Attempts can show good resutls too. Not just bad ones.

Modifié par ArcherTactlenecks, 10 janvier 2014 - 04:56 .

[Reigned]

SwobyJ wrote...

Reigned wrote...

Yeah, the ONLY platform that could do a import would be pc (insert Master Race comment), of course, as you said they would definitely have their work cut out for them.

@SwobyJ - Clarify?

Huh?

Dragon Age Keep. DA:O or DAII 'import' system for DA:I. DA:I will be on PS3 and XB360, but ALSO PS4 and XB1 (and PC).

It's not a literal 'transfer' system (though I think it'll include that capability for cases where it can be done).

You just fill in your choices, character info, etc etc.

Then it works.

People at BSN are too negative. It's not that very very impossible to set up story states for future gen games. They're basically giving us an advanced save state editor for Dragon Age, and given how little those games were connected between DA:O and DAII, I'll damn well predict they'll do the same for 'ME4'.

I get what you're saying, thats something similar to the ME:Genesis of ME2 with just some heavy tweaking involved and what not. Now as far as clean slates go, Shepard's residue of that final choice will be all over any slate if they continue the story post ME3. Even if they fast forwarded centuries, the framework of the universe changes so much in those last few minutes, that it'll be interesting to see what plot they use to accomodate each possible decision.

[SwobyJ]

spirosz wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

They don't even need a fully canon story. *shrug* man people have been negative about Bioware's abilities since DAII, SWTOR, and ME3's ending

Oh I'm sorry, how many more attemps do they need? 

Considering:
-DA2 was alright but just not worthy of being declared a main series game; spinoff at best (Dragon Age: Kirkwall lol)
-SWTOR was almost totally a whole other studio (barely anyone from ME/DA developers)
-ME3 was, by and large for most players, at least pretty good until that showstopping (to put it lightly) ending

...a couple (more attempts)?

Even personally, I'm giving em DA:I and ME4. Not preordering. Not Collector's Edition. Just seeing what they're gonna do.

If you're not, I guess you're more purely here for the 'social' part of the Bioware Social Network, because you're done with the games themselves.

Modifié par SwobyJ, 10 janvier 2014 - 04:57 .

[spirosz]

ArcherTactlenecks wrote...

spirosz wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

They don't even need a fully canon story. *shrug* man people have been negative about Bioware's abilities since DAII, SWTOR, and ME3's ending

Oh I'm sorry, how many more attemps do they need? 

Attempts can result into good resutls too. Not just bad ones.

And consistent "failed" attempts in that business can lead to less sales.  I like SWTOR and DA II, but the writing was sub-par at best, especially for what I've seen them do before.  What they did to Revan was laughable and DA][ 's rushed development led to what we got.  

[Reigned]

ArcherTactlenecks wrote...

ME4 should happen in the same universe. No prequels, reboots, or spin offs. That just ruins the continuity of the series.

That's what I think anyway.

Yeah, I think prequels wouldn't be as interesting as a genius plot to continue the universe after Shepard rainbow sacrifice. Although I wont lie, I wouldn't mind playing as a wet behind the ear private of the Relay 314 Incident and Shanxi War.