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[IllusiveManJr]

If I worked three full time jobs (120 hours) in a week at minimum wage ($7.25), I'd still be making less than I currently do working 40 hours in a week at my current job. I don't think I could tolerate that kind of stress for such a measly amount. 

Of course I know some six year old in China makes half-a-yen a year making iPhone cases or whatever, because someone always has it worse.

[bmwcrazy]

IllusiveManJr wrote...

If I worked three full time jobs (120 hours) in a week at minimum wage ($7.25)...

What?

Nobody works 120 hours a week.

The minimum wage in my state (New York) has just increased to $8 an hour and $8.25 in New Jersey. It's hard to survive making minimum wage here, that's why you kids should stay in school and study hard. Mmmkay?

Modifié par bmwcrazy, 10 janvier 2014 - 10:44 .

[Druss99]

bmwcrazy wrote...

IllusiveManJr wrote...

If I worked three full time jobs (120 hours) in a week at minimum wage ($7.25)...

What?

Nobody works 120 hours a week.

I think he was being hypothetical.

It's the same everywhere. Wait until you get to the point(if you haven't already) where jobs that used to pay a decent amount are now minimum wage because there's so many people out of work they can offer sh*t pay and still get thousands of applicants.

[bmwcrazy]

EntropicAngel wrote...

He's just saying that to compare it to the money he makes now. He's saying he'd NEED to work 120 hours a week to make what he makes now.

Although he doesn't seem to realize that the people on minimum wage don't have the budgets he has

The cost of living is also different in the states, but it doesn't matter where you are, you shouldn't expect a comfortable life style if you make only a minimum wage.

[IllusiveManJr]

Feather what?

[Angrywolves]

yes it is.

[IllusiveManJr]

EntropicAngel wrote...

Lol. It's like a scarf. It's nothing significant, just something that's considered "extravagant" like a mink coat or a Cadillac.

Googling it brought up almost naked ladies covering themselves with feather boas. A nurse just told me up look at that stuff at home. 

Good thing I know she's kidding.

[bmwcrazy]

Druss99 wrote...

I think he was being hypothetical.

It's the same everywhere. Wait until you get to the point(if you haven't already) where jobs that used to pay a decent amount are now minimum wage because there's so many people out of work they can offer sh*t pay and still get thousands of applicants.

I don't know any jobs with minimum wage that used to have "decent" pay in the US. If you're in Ireland, things are definitely difference since it is much rougher over there since the global recession caused by the subprime mortgage crisis and the collapse of some major financial institutions since 2008.

However in the US, minimum wage has also increased steadily in the past decade. I'll use New York as an example, the minimum wage in 2000 was $5.15, in 2005 it was $6, in 2006 it was increased to $6.75, finally in 2009 it went up to $7.25 and with the $8 in 2014.

You don't need to lecture me about the job market in the states either, I know it very well. 

If a job was offered with a minimum wage, it was never a decent job with good pay in the first place. I do know your point though. My company has recently hired a Columbia graduate with an MBA. It was a position starting at least $60k in 2005.  I offered him only $35k a year and he took the job with a huge smile on his face.

Modifié par bmwcrazy, 10 janvier 2014 - 11:27 .

[RedArmyShogun]

Wow bmw I find it rich that on the one had you go "lol go to school get better paying job." Then on the next post go "lol hired some idiot for half the pay."



Also cost of living index and crooked rent and business pratices are needed to account for in the states and Western Europe. Also the sad fact that economics pretty much dictate not everyone or even most people can be rich or even middle class.

Modifié par RedArmyShogun, 10 janvier 2014 - 11:27 .

[bmwcrazy]

RedArmyShogun wrote...

Wow bmw I find it rich that on the one had you go "lol go to school get better paying job." Then on the next post go "lol hired some idiot for half the pay."

Also cost of living index and crooked rent and business pratices are needed to account for in the states and Western Europe. Also the sad fact that economics pretty much dictate not everyone or even most people can be rich or even middle class.

You find it "rich" but sadly it is the reality. If the job market is bad to the point that nobody offers a better pay, why should we double your salary? Your starting salary.

Here in the real world, it is all about the competition. Out of hundreds of resumes we get, of course we are picking out the people with bachelor's and master's degrees from the top schools and also with the most experience.

People tell you it's all about what you study in college. Go to a good school, pick the right major and earn the right degrees, and you'll be rewarded.

Modifié par bmwcrazy, 10 janvier 2014 - 11:44 .

[RedArmyShogun]

No the problem is you go, lol go to school to get rich. Then you go "lol here take this pay that I wouldn't touch." as if you are doing them a favor for a sum that won't pay back that student loan anytime soon and forces them to be indebted to you.

The only thing you showed there is a waste of time and more of the same old the rich get richer and the poor get screwed, compitition my ass. More like exploitation, which THAT is what the current system is based on and WHY the global economy is going down the ****ter.

There is a word for actions and people like that. Saddly this place has a profanity filter.

Modifié par RedArmyShogun, 10 janvier 2014 - 11:55 .

[bmwcrazy]

RedArmyShogun wrote...

No the problem is you go, lol go to school to get rich. Then you go "lol here take this pay that I wouldn't touch." as if you are doing them a favor for a sum that won't pay back that student loan anytime soon and forces them to be indebted to you.

The only thing you showed there is a waste of time and more of the same old the rich get richer and the poor get screwed, compitition my ass. More like exploitation, which THAT is what the current system is based on and WHY the global economy is going down the ****ter.

There is a word for actions and people like that. Saddly this place has a profanity filter.

Or you could simply read between the lines and learn that a business degree is nowadays as useless as liberal arts.

Like what I've said, pick the right major and earn the right degrees.

[RedArmyShogun]

And as I pointed out thats not economically possible. Plus in case you did not notice as Western Europe has learned to its demise to an extent the service economy does NOT work. You must have a robust field of industries and professions. However the Min Wage should be a benchmark of the bare lowest for a citizen to make ends meet. But the problem isn't raising it.

Its stoping Corru...oh sorry "compitition" that makes the currencies around the world as worthless as they now are. But thats Dirty Commie Talk.

[bmwcrazy]

RedArmyShogun wrote...

And as I pointed out thats not economically possible. Plus in case you did not notice as Western Europe has learned to its demise to an extent the service economy does NOT work. You must have a robust field of industries and professions. However the Min Wage should be a benchmark of the bare lowest for a citizen to make ends meet. But the problem isn't raising it.

Its stoping Corru...oh sorry "compitition" that makes the currencies around the world as worthless as they now are. But thats Dirty Commie Talk.

You're very worked up over this. 

Personally, I'm also against raising the minimum wage. But that's evil capitalist pig talk, amirite?

However, I think you've now gone off topic since you've brought up service economy. 

[garrustheturian64]

I'm a student over here in Berlin I have to work a few hours a day. I feel like they shouldn't raise the minumum wage because even though the unemployment rate is decreasing and the economy is starting to pick back up in the states, its still to early to raise it because the economy might tank again and many people will be getting paid more than the government could handle and it might end with a worse economy.

[Cainhurst Crow]

Meh. Its a living.

[Mashiro Yuki]

I need a job...

[Ravensword]

garrustheturian64 wrote...

I'm a student over here in Berlin I have to work a few hours a day. I feel like they shouldn't raise the minumum wage because even though the unemployment rate is decreasing and the economy is starting to pick back up in the states, its still to early to raise it because the economy might tank again and many people will be getting paid more than the government could handle and it might end with a worse economy.

I don't see what th government has to do w/ the minimum wage other than enforcing it. Government jobs already pay out salaries that are already above poverty level. The issue is getting private corporations to have to pay employees at a minimum wage that is still livable. People who work for corporations like Walmart or McDonad's end up going on public assistance just to be able to make ends meet. The taxpayer ends up underwriting the profits of these wealthy corporations that can already afford to pay their employees a lot more than the pittance that is $7.25 or $8.50 an hour.

[Straw Nihilist]

Foxxie x Lightning wrote...

I need a job...

Since when did prostitution not count as a job?

Modifié par Billie Bones, 11 janvier 2014 - 01:38 .