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[VettoRyouzou]

So more of a whom do you prefer poll but in an all out war Vs the two large races who would end up the victor?

Here the poll

Modifié par VettoRyouzou, 21 janvier 2010 - 12:31 .

[Haasth]

EDIT: Woah, way old post... well I made a new one somewhere further down the line! 

Modifié par Haasth, 04 mars 2010 - 12:01 .

[rines]

It would seem Geth have numbers, though collectors technology. Without husks, their numbers would be much less, and their paralyzing little bugs would have no effect on the Geth. Also the Geth have much more ships. They also know no fear. Collectors are organic so it can be assumed they do.

[VettoRyouzou]

Well to be fair Both sides have husk.

[Xivai]

The collectors average troops don't look threatening. On the other hand Geth Primes and all sorts of nasties would rip them a new one.



Personally I think the Geth have the superior troops, but perhaps not the superior technology.

[GnusmasTHX]

Seeing as how geth couldn't do anything in ME1, I'm inclined to vote Collector's.

[Soldier989]

The Geth are awesome, I think they have more numbers too.

[Xivai]

Yea, but you have to keep in mind. The advanced technology the collectors has seems to be super effective against biological beings. Which the Geth aren't. As a matter of fact, the Geth look suspiciously like their weakness.

[NKKKK]

Both would be in a long drawn out war

[Waco_Kid]

rines wrote...

It would seem Geth have numbers, though collectors technology. Without husks, their numbers would be much less, and their paralyzing little bugs would have no effect on the Geth. Also the Geth have much more ships. They also know no fear. Collectors are organic so it can be assumed they do.

There is incredibly little information to go on, so I feel that saying the Geth have greater numbers of soldiers and far greater numbers of ships is a huge stretch.  We don't have any real sense of how many geth there are behind the veil or how many collectors there are beyond the Omega-4 relay. 

Your point about the paralyzing bugs and fear not having an effect on the geth is valid, but based on the Collectors being a hive mind I wouldn't be surprised if they don't know fear either.

In the end I would say that it is quality not quantity that wins wars, and the Collectors definately outclass the geth.  As far as I know Sovereign couldn't even detect the Normandy while stealthed but a Collectors ship was able to.

[Palathas]

Heh, I read the title of this thread incorrectly and thought it had something to do with a Collector's Edition of the game. Then it struck me that it would be a cool twist if there was a Collectors' edition of the game which was themed towards the Collectors with maybe some sort of Collector figurine.

[SomethinNothing]

Collectors would win, I think, but I'd be rooting for the Geth.

[Funkcase]

The Geth, the Collectors cant just paralyze them.

[Xivai]

Palathas wrote...

Heh, I read the title of this thread incorrectly and thought it had something to do with a Collector's Edition of the game. Then it struck me that it would be a cool twist if there was a Collectors' edition of the game which was themed towards the Collectors with maybe some sort of Collector figurine.

The Collectors Edition comes with Collectors armor.

Anyways where does it say he couldn't detect the Normandy? Also you have to keep in mind that maybe this is the first time stealth technology was ever used. The Reapers didn't suspect it.

Also who says they had their stealth systems on when attacked? I may have missed someoen yelling it in the video. 

[rines]

Waco_Kid wrote...

rines wrote...

It would seem Geth have numbers, though collectors technology. Without husks, their numbers would be much less, and their paralyzing little bugs would have no effect on the Geth. Also the Geth have much more ships. They also know no fear. Collectors are organic so it can be assumed they do.

There is incredibly little information to go on, so I feel that saying the Geth have greater numbers of soldiers and far greater numbers of ships is a huge stretch.  We don't have any real sense of how many geth there are behind the veil or how many collectors there are beyond the Omega-4 relay. 

Your point about the paralyzing bugs and fear not having an effect on the geth is valid, but based on the Collectors being a hive mind I wouldn't be surprised if they don't know fear either.

In the end I would say that it is quality not quantity that wins wars, and the Collectors definately outclass the geth.  As far as I know Sovereign couldn't even detect the Normandy while stealthed but a Collectors ship was able to.

True, the collectors could outnumber the geth, and it is safe to say emotion is no factor here. The collectors do have better technology aswell. I want to root for the geth though.

[shinobi602]

Collectors. They have the most superior technology in the universe. Their beam weapons would just tear any Geth in pieces, not to mention their enormous mother ships.

[LoL]

A collector assassin and possessed drone enters the scene.



Geth trooper: Wassup b*tches?

Collector Assassin shoots Geth in the face.

Harbringer: TO THA FACE.

Geth Colosus enters the scene.

Colleter Assassin and Harbringer: Oh sh-(giant explosion of collector goodness)

[Dethateer]

... WILL SOMEONE PLEASE DO SOMETHING ABOUT THESE NECROMANCERS ALREADY??

[BlightWalker]

rines wrote...

Waco_Kid wrote...

rines wrote...

It would seem Geth have numbers, though collectors technology. Without husks, their numbers would be much less, and their paralyzing little bugs would have no effect on the Geth. Also the Geth have much more ships. They also know no fear. Collectors are organic so it can be assumed they do.

There is incredibly little information to go on, so I feel that saying the Geth have greater numbers of soldiers and far greater numbers of ships is a huge stretch.  We don't have any real sense of how many geth there are behind the veil or how many collectors there are beyond the Omega-4 relay. 

Your point about the paralyzing bugs and fear not having an effect on the geth is valid, but based on the Collectors being a hive mind I wouldn't be surprised if they don't know fear either.

In the end I would say that it is quality not quantity that wins wars, and the Collectors definately outclass the geth.  As far as I know Sovereign couldn't even detect the Normandy while stealthed but a Collectors ship was able to.

True, the collectors could outnumber the geth, and it is safe to say emotion is no factor here. The collectors do have better technology aswell. I want to root for the geth though.

How do the collectors outnumber the Geth? The collectors got one cruiser, their base and a few hundred, maybe thousand drones/guardians/assasins.

The Geth are stated to have THOUSANDS of ships and the ressources of several star systems.

Modifié par BlightWalker, 04 mars 2010 - 11:41 .

[DarthCaine]

EDIT: Oh wait, I misunderstood
IMO the Collectors will win since they have much more advanced technology

Modifié par DarthCaine, 04 mars 2010 - 12:02 .

[Nolenthar]

It obviously depends of the Collector's technology itself. If they can create a very advanced informatic virus, we can imagine they can wipe the Geth out really quickly, or reprogrammed them.

From what I saw in ME1 and ME2, both the Geth and the Collectors are really dangerous, and they both have different strength.
Geth are synthetic and have very advanced mechanic technology.
Collectors are biologic and have very advanced biotechnologies and biotic abilities.

Modifié par Nolenthar, 04 mars 2010 - 11:52 .

[Haasth]

Geth. Collector weaponry is more oriented to fight organics... that and they are a lot less numerous. Geth can easily build more of themselves, Collectors can not. That said, Geth do have two factions as of now... But if they group up, they could probably take them. 

But if the Collectors could actually do something with their vastly superior technology then the Geth would stand no chance... that said, the Collectors aren't exactly very smart at the moment and would require Reaper oversight... if they can create an effective synthetic counter they would probably do well. But from what we've seen, I'm voting Geth.  

Now think of what would happen if the Geth start 'upgrading' themselves with Collector technology! After all, Geth are technology themselves.

Modifié par Haasth, 04 mars 2010 - 12:00 .

[Balerion84]

Collector's couldn't even kill Legion... common sense dictates to put my money on the Geth.

[Habelo]

Lol fail... geth isnt superior.

[khaos974]

Let's consider the forces of both sides:



Numbers:

The Collectors have one cruiser sized ship and one battlestation which is actually half empty. (If we consider Shep destroyed all the Collectors at the end of ME2)

The Herectics have one station which id the half the size of the citadel, and from the vids of the battle of the Citadel at least hundreds of frigate sized ships, probably dozen of cruisers. The "true Geth" are at least as numerous if not more.



Technology:

For ship to ship fight the Geth are roughly Citadel level.

The Collectors have a "beam weapon" probably an underpowered Sovereign style cannon.

BUT, while the original Normandy could not resist it wasn't oneshot killed like the Alliance cruisers against Sovereign. The Collector cruiser is fragile, the Thanix* cannon can't easily destroy it, javelin missiles too.



* Not as powerful as you think, it's based on Reaper tech but it was drastically DOWNSIZED and probably not as efficient; according to the codex gives the Normandy the firepower of a cruiser.