txgoldrush wrote...
mopotter wrote...
txgoldrush wrote...
mopotter wrote...
Invisible Man wrote...
spirosz wrote...
The Mods really need to start a new thread where people can still complain about the endings. All these long posts, yet you will still get the new game!
I probably will, though I've never clamed me3 to be a bad game, just the ending. (though the me3 ending was almost bad enough to spoil the game, to me)
I won't be buying it automatically like I did with the NWN series and I won't pre-order the next few games, which I've done sinced KOTOR, including ME3. Buying their next game is now something I will have to think about. I'll have to hear from other people, I trust, how the game story is, or I'll have to look at sites that give the walk through information so I can see for myself what they have done. 
I worked hard towards destroying the reapers, I also worked hard in a couple of games to have Tali and Legion co-operate and was extremely irritated when that didn't matter. One or the other group died unless you picked synthesis. If I hadn't gotten them to co-operate, I would have picked synthesis a few times, but on the games where I got them working togehter, i should have been able to destroy the reapers with their help and the ones who made it through the final battle should have been able to work together to rebuild their world if my ems total was as high as I could get it.
For me there are just too many things like that and those, added to the ending with a charred body as the "good" ending, that destroyed any thought I had of pre ordering DA:I even though it's a different group working on it or pre-ordering any other game no matter how good it looks. And DAI looks very good to me, but I no longer trustt BW's vision.
So you ignored the theme of "victory through sacrifice", that victory does not come without cost.
Sorry, but you are criticizing based off what you want ME3 to be, not for what it is. And you are missing the point of what it is.
Victory through sacrifice is fine for ONE ending. I have a warden who died, I also have a warden who encouraged the dark ritual and one who returned to the mage circle and one who is Queen. I have no problem with Shepard dieing, as long as there is also an option for no doubt Shepard lives, which the charred body does not encourage. I don't even have a problem with synthesis or controle, though I don't trust either of them.
My disappointment with ME3 is based on what I expected it to be which was based on past experience with BioWare games. Without that past history - ME1 and ME2, JE. DA:O and DA2 and KOTRO all games I enjoyed and still play, I wouldn't have purchased ME3.
ME2 gave me so many options from dieing to saving everyone, which I did twice out of all the games I played from the release date in 2007 to the date I got ME3. I expected them to continue having my choices count in the ending and it didn't..
Please don't bother being sorry. I have all their old games to play. Maybe be sorry for them since I'm no longer on the pre-order everything they ever come out with no matter what it cost group. I'm now in the wait and see what they have done group. If the next game is good I'll get it. If it isn't what I'm looking for I won't. But I no longer trust them to make games I will love and replay for years and years.
You are not getting it,
Choice is not about getting what you want, it is not about wish fulfillment. It can be about choosing the lesser evil.
And once again, you are criticizing ME3 for not giving you what you want, or ending the way you want...that's your problem, you are not seeing WHY it ended the way it did.
Don't play the Witcher series, because none of the choices in those games are about wish fulfillment.
And really, DAO has cop outs and Morrigan's was complete deus ex machina.
Sorry this is getting so long.
This is what irritates me to no end. I don't "get" it the way you want me to because I don't look at the game the way you do. That does not mean you're right and I'm wrong. It means we don't see things the same way. And I'm sorry you don't get that.
I have never been interested in the Witcher series and have no intention of every getting it, or deus ex or probably most of the other games you enjoy, unless you like Fall Out 3 with the BS dlc; FANV, Elder Scrolls series, Dragon Dogma or Borderland series.
I bought BioWare games for a specific reason. Well 3 specific reasons. I had choices being male or female, a good story and I had endings that I liked. Every game I've ever played from BioWare gave me at least one ending that was satisfying. I didn't like the DR, hated it in fact and started romancing Zev because of it, but Zev was a good choice and the endings were satisfying. I will admit that the ME3 ending has made me no longer hate the DR as much.
I play video games for fun. For the super feeling of satisfaction knowing that I destroyed the evil and sometimes my character lives on with or without their LI and sometimes my character dies. I don't play video games for real life experiences. I have a real life. So I'm going to agree to disagree with you and go to bed.
Modifié par mopotter, 12 janvier 2014 - 04:26 .