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[smoke and mirrors]

I am i showing my age when i say i remember when it all came in the game and you didn`t have to pay for extra

AND GET OFF MY LAWN !

[DragonKingReborn]

Oh, I remember that too. My first RPG was So You Want To Be A Hero (when it was called Hero's Quest, not even Quest for Glory yet). I also remember you could buy the exact same game a year later with VGA graphics. Very exciting.

Times change, though. While, in an ideal world, this content would be in the game when it shipped and not cost extra if it wasn't, the fact is it won't be. In an ideal world, MP would leave Dragon Age alone. Since that doesn't seem possible, micro transactions is a liveable compromise. I don't have to buy them, after all.

[Deflagratio]

First off, I generally don't like micro-transactions in single player games, particularly for gameplay segments. (Quests and such). Save quest writing and characters for prime expansions.

I wouldn't be overly critical of Weapon Packs like Mass Effect 2 had, as micro-transactions, but it shouldn't be about "Buying Power" just "Buying variety". Even that's walking a tightrope though, because I can see that "request" inviting a crippling lack of options at launch, only to slowly trickle in more for ridiculous amounts over time. So in summary, it's a concept I support, but when EA marketing gets ahold of an agreeable concept, the morph it into an unrecognizable cancer.

Multiplayer Micro-trans... I can't complain too much about what Mass Effect 3 did, I got along just fine for months without buying a reinforcement pack, and if the Micro-transactions in multiplayer are used to fund continuing development, I kind of lost the moral high ground I think.

[metatheurgist]

DragonKingReborn wrote...
Times change, though. While, in an ideal world, this content would be in the game when it shipped and not cost extra if it wasn't, the fact is it won't be. In an ideal world,

In an ideal world, people wouldn't be dumb enough to pay for horse armor. Once that stone fell off the mountain, we couldn't stop the avalanche.

[FINE HERE]

"Let's Talk Microtransactions"
Sure. Don't have any. They're awful and money-grabbing and really pointless for this kind of game. For a free to play game? Okay, fine. For an MMO, I can see it working for vanity objects. Talk about DLC? Okay, but only after the game's out. Microtransactions? Maker, NO.

[Gorkanus]

Ea.Stop trolling with false "customer" account.

[DragonKingReborn]

If it stops multiplayer, I am all for micro transactions. Unless it becomes play to win. Then I'm off.

[Yendor_Trawz]

I can't believe there are people who want microtransactions to exist. You people are using oxygen that sane people could be using.

Do you also bend over in front of used car salesmen and ask them to screw you some more.

[AshenSugar]

You realise that this thread is likely going to be giving them ideas?

Somewhere, some grey-suited, shark-featured EA executive is sitting there, reading this and thinking "hmm, so people would pay for monetized romances in one of our products? How very interesting" wheels will turn, and rolls of numbers will scroll in the chilly wastes of his mind...

Paying money to have a relationship with is a very old kind of business transaction. Are we now prepared to do the same with virtual characters in a video game? To put it more crudely, are we happy to support EA whoring virtual characters out for cash?

[Cribbian]

Lost a stronghold? Buy it back for $5

[Rodia Driftwood]

AutumnWitch wrote...

Do you mean things like the Mage Packs or buying stuff already in the game?

I love being able to buy extra stuff. I bought all the DLCs for DA games and would happily pay for the ability to buy in-game gold.

Oddly enough I spend most of my in game gold on my companions. I always buy Merrill Final Thought for example (besides being a killer staff it matches her armour colour wise ;-). But things are so expensive I am so limted. I would love to get Isabela the Puzzle Ring in act two and the Four-Fingered Eddie's Lucky Talisman in Act 3 but there is no where near enough gold to earn. There is a Barden's Folly ring I want to give to Aveline as well. So I would gladly pay for more gold. As far as earning it. Hell we saved Kirkwall from the Qunari and get what like 5 gold for it? WTH? We have earned way, way more gold and then some.

In-game gold? In-game gold?! In-game gold?!

Boy, you're just a walking wallet, just waiting to be robbed, aren't you?

[coldflame]

Just think about the amount of extra money ea is going to make by having a day one female qunari companion dlc... lol.

Modifié par tcgtqu, 11 janvier 2014 - 11:22 .

[Gorkanus]

Rodia Driftwood wrote...

AutumnWitch wrote...

Do you mean things like the Mage Packs or buying stuff already in the game?

I love being able to buy extra stuff. I bought all the DLCs for DA games and would happily pay for the ability to buy in-game gold.

Oddly enough I spend most of my in game gold on my companions. I always buy Merrill Final Thought for example (besides being a killer staff it matches her armour colour wise ;-). But things are so expensive I am so limted. I would love to get Isabela the Puzzle Ring in act two and the Four-Fingered Eddie's Lucky Talisman in Act 3 but there is no where near enough gold to earn. There is a Barden's Folly ring I want to give to Aveline as well. So I would gladly pay for more gold. As far as earning it. Hell we saved Kirkwall from the Qunari and get what like 5 gold for it? WTH? We have earned way, way more gold and then some.

In-game gold? In-game gold?! In-game gold?!

Boy, you're just a walking wallet, just waiting to be robbed, aren't you?

Do you people know, that thats what the cheats are for ? you have even console in game and you can add 10000 gold if you want.you just need to stop being a Cow

[Dutchess]

I came in here and fell off my chair reading all these enthusiastic suggestions to have romances, (side) quests and in-game gold as DLC. Is EA's shameless milking of The Sims 3 actually used here as a desirable example??? I don't even... I... My head hurts.

I can live with expansion-like DLC, like for Skyrim. Day-one nonsense, weapon packs and all that other stuff are embarrassing for the company as far as I'm concerned, and they won't get a dime from me for it. It will only make me wait even longer before I buy the game at all.

[Laughing_Man]

Gorkanus wrote...

Rodia Driftwood wrote...

AutumnWitch wrote...

Do you mean things like the Mage Packs or buying stuff already in the game?

I love being able to buy extra stuff. I bought all the DLCs for DA games and would happily pay for the ability to buy in-game gold.

Oddly enough I spend most of my in game gold on my companions. I always buy Merrill Final Thought for example (besides being a killer staff it matches her armour colour wise ;-). But things are so expensive I am so limted. I would love to get Isabela the Puzzle Ring in act two and the Four-Fingered Eddie's Lucky Talisman in Act 3 but there is no where near enough gold to earn. There is a Barden's Folly ring I want to give to Aveline as well. So I would gladly pay for more gold. As far as earning it. Hell we saved Kirkwall from the Qunari and get what like 5 gold for it? WTH? We have earned way, way more gold and then some.

In-game gold? In-game gold?! In-game gold?!

Boy, you're just a walking wallet, just waiting to be robbed, aren't you?

Do you people know, that thats what the cheats are for ? you have even console in game and you can add 10000 gold if you want.you just need to stop being a Cow

^ I agree. However, it is possible that he is from those unenlightend heathens who use consoles...

[Nightdragon8]

metatheurgist wrote...

DragonKingReborn wrote...
Times change, though. While, in an ideal world, this content would be in the game when it shipped and not cost extra if it wasn't, the fact is it won't be. In an ideal world,

In an ideal world, people wouldn't be dumb enough to pay for horse armor. Once that stone fell off the mountain, we couldn't stop the avalanche.

yea they are micro tranactions stuff that really should have been mods to begin with. so them not releasing a toolkit allows them to hold all the cards.

[ames4u]

Guys, stop feeding the troll!!!

[ames4u]

renjility wrote...

I came in here and fell off my chair reading all these enthusiastic suggestions to have romances, (side) quests and in-game gold as DLC. Is EA's shameless milking of The Sims 3 actually used here as a desirable example??? I don't even... I... My head hurts.

I can live with expansion-like DLC, like for Skyrim. Day-one nonsense, weapon packs and all that other stuff are embarrassing for the company as far as I'm concerned, and they won't get a dime from me for it. It will only make me wait even longer before I buy the game at all.

This; but I have the distinct feeling that the OP is trolling for suckers. At least I fricken' hope so, because the positive comments are being incredibly foolish.

[Vort3xX]

I won't pay or even bother to buy a game that supports microtransactions anymore, why ? because it's f*cking stupid and i could use my money for better purposes than paying in a game that i already have payed 60$ for to play, EA is welcome to do what they want thought it's not like i care since i haven't been interested in a EA game for a very long time.

[HopHazzard]

In terms of ME3 multiplayer style microtransactions, I never really used them (unless I had some points left over after buying something else). I might have been more inclined to spend real money on multiplayer if the packs weren't random. It just seemed a step too far to pay for something when I couldn't be sure it would even be something I wanted.

As far as the main game, I wouldn't want it to get to a point where all the good stuff is locked behind a pay wall, but I have no objection to story-based dlc.

[Sir JK]

My reaction to any microtransaction would be entirely dependant on how it's used. If it's shortcuts, better equipment or just unlocked for a single playthrough I'd be very much opposed to it.

However, the ability to purchase extra quests, npcs, small plots or even area-hubs would be an interesting approach. Small things to add to your game. I'd evaluate each of them indiidually to figure out if I think they'd be worth it, but I'd definantely think it would be a good approach. I suspect that if it had good quality it'd earn them tons of money to boot.

[Moghedia]

Foshizzlin wrote...

No microtransactions. Period.

THIS, stop nickel and diming the games,

Modifié par Moghedia, 11 janvier 2014 - 04:32 .

[JoltDealer]

DAI Multiplayer will be an interesting thing indeed, if you feel like discussing ideas for what you'd like to see, you might want to post in the thread I started. It gets a little off-track here and there, but it's a good discussion of what we want to see from multiplayer. Here's the link: http://social.biowar.../index/17696511

As for microtransactions, anything received from them should be purely cosmetic. I'm talking armor and weapon appearance, not actual armor and weapons. By involving items with potentially better stats, you begin to venture in to pay-to-win territory. Now if you want to pay a buck or two to look cooler faster, then go right ahead.

Modifié par Crimson Sound, 11 janvier 2014 - 04:44 .

[Sanunes]

I dislike microtransactions, but I can live with them if its something I can unlock in the game normally with just a little time.  If I had to pick a microtransaction system that I felt was the less evil of the ones I have seen, I prefer the ones from Mass Effect 3 multiplayer and Dead Space 3 for both were there to speed up the process if you wanted something faster, but if you spent the time in game it was available to you as well.

So if they make side-quests, romance content, or anything else that I can't unlock by spending time to unlock it a microtransaction this would be the last BioWare/EA game I buy new or before major discounts.