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[Phoenix_Fyre]

 Beaten Origins with the 3 basic classics, and now I've never tried a hybrid class before. I honestly just don't get it reallly...

I know it's a mage in heavy armor.....but how do I attack? Do I use a staff then swap to my sword and shield?

Do I cast spells and then use my sword and shield? 

I know a huge problem for me is picking the 'right' spells....the I don't need to sheath my weapon ones.... 

[Blazomancer]

You can use both staves and melee weapons, any way you prefer. Both can come in handy. As an example, you can use a staff to quickly cast the spells which need sheathing and then switch to melee. You might want to refer to the wiki article on arcane warrior spellcasting to check which spells can be used without sheathing.

[Phoenix_Fyre]

Ahhhhh ok thanks. So I can have wintersbreath/ sword + shield as my weapons?

[Ferretinabun]

Yes. Remember, Origins lets you have two weapon sets and you can swap between them at will.

[Phoenix_Fyre]

Yup. Currently using wintersbreath + sword and shield....

Anyone got ideas for armor? I'm wearing the keep armor, but people say evon the great's mail or the dragonbone stuff?

[mousestalker]

Evon's the great chest piece + Wade's dragonscale for the remaining bits will still give you the set bonus. Which is nice.

[luna1124]

Arcane Warrior is my favorite to play. I use 4 mods to make it great.
Dual Weapon Abilities for Arcane Warriors http://www.nexusmods...age/mods/1281/?
And/or
Two Handed Weapon Abilities for Arcane Warriors http://www.nexusmods...age/mods/1159/?
Arcane Warrior Weapon Drawn Casting http://www.nexusmods...nage/mods/767/?
Cheaper Combat Magic http://www.nexusmods...nage/mods/293/?
I don't use the weapon and shield because it conflicts with the stamina potion mod I use.

[Phoenix_Fyre]

I play on console it really sucks

so if I just equip two daggers w/o a mod nothing happens?

[mousestalker]

You just attack slower than you would if you had the specialization.

Being the tank really isn't that hard for an arcane warrior. Sword 'n board is totally valid and useful.

[Phoenix_Fyre]

Yup that's what I have on right now. I activate some buffs, use my staff to set up a fireball or something then swap to my SnS

there's a special sword for AW's right?

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Spellweaver. You take it off the corpse of an Arcane Warrior in the Temple of the Sacred Ashes. (After killing him, which shouldn't surprise you much.)

[dainbramage]

Phoenix_Fyre wrote...

I play on console it really sucks

so if I just equip two daggers w/o a mod nothing happens?

You still get to go stabbity, just no talents. Unfortunately that means you're missing dual weapon training and momentum, which are what really give DW rogues and warriors their huge dps. In fact an arcane warrior will generally do more damage with sword 'n' shield than dual wielding because of this.

[Phoenix_Fyre]

Yup I realized, using ostagar gear and got the magister lord staff

is the hex line worth it? I was either gonna get the full hex line or curse of mortality

[Ferretinabun]

The hexes are as tasty as any other line. Though bare in mind only Misdirection Hex can be cast with your weapon drawn. Curse of Mortality can be cast with weapon drawn, however, and yes it is very nasty.

Check this out to see what spells cast be cast with a drawn weapon, and which require you to sheathe it (which is just a tedious, time-consuming animation):

http://dragonage.wik...or_spellcasting

In general though, when building an Arcane Warrior, you want spells that buff you as a melee fighter, like Miasma, Rock Armour and Spell Shield. You can make a case for Death Syphon too. Fireball is always good as it draws a good deal of aggro (threat gen is the only way in which an Arcane Warrior might struggle as a tank). And of course, any mage with Mana Clash is every other mage's nemesis, but that's just a stand-out OP spell; it's not specific to an AW build.

Modifié par Ferretinabun, 12 janvier 2014 - 04:50 .

[DarthGizka]

dainbramage wrote...

 In fact an arcane warrior will generally do more damage with sword 'n' shield than dual wielding because of this.

I agree. I was quite surprised when I found that sword & board warriors have the highest sustained damage rate from basic attacks, except for heavily armoured foes where the maul's lower swing and higher penetration give it an edge (which becomes moot with telekinetic weapons). Dual-wielders and two-handers can do huge amounts of spike damage and AoE, but without the weapon talents they fall behind. Also, there are many outstanding longswords around and sets like Cailan's Arms, but a lot less in the other categories.

[AshenSugar]

I usually use Wades Superior Dragonbone for Origins, and upgrade to Sentinel in Awakening, along with Spellweaver,

Never entirely sure what the third specialisation should be after going Arcane Warrior/Battlemage. I guess that Blood Mage makes the most sense from a pure game mechanic perspective, but for personal RP reasons, I can never quite bring myself to go down that path.

[Phoenix_Fyre]

Would the AW/SH healer work? I did a SH/BM in my pure mage run

I know you get the dragonbone from the high dragon scale, but how can I get both the dragonbone armor and the superior drakescale w/o locking up the shop?

[dainbramage]

Phoenix_Fyre wrote...

Would the AW/SH healer work? I did a SH/BM in my pure mage run

I know you get the dragonbone from the high dragon scale, but how can I get both the dragonbone armor and the superior drakescale w/o locking up the shop?

You can't, superior drakeskin will always close the shop (dragon scale is irrelevant to that). If you buy evon's and the felon's coat before getting the second set of drakeskin it doesn't really matter if the shop closes though.

[Phoenix_Fyre]

Ahhh got it. So basically buy all that you need before getting the second drakeskin set, because after that store's closed?

[AshenSugar]

You can get both - here's how.

You speak to Herron, and start the quest which requires three drake scales, and pay Wade 10 gold to 'speed things up', leave the shop, go into Goldanna's home next door in order to transit the area, return to the shop.

Wade will give you the normal drakescale armor, but he'll express dissatisfaction with his efforts, you then speak to Herron again give Wade your other three drake scales, and pay him 20 gold to 'make it perfect', leave the shop, go to Goldanna's home.

Back to the shop, Wade will then give you the superior drakescale armor.

You then tell Herron you've a dragonscale, Wade willl make the superior dragonbone armor on the spot without you having to leave the shop.

After that he'll shut the shop.

There you go - all three armor sets, total cost 30 gold, 6 drake scales, one dragon scale.

Modifié par AshenSugar, 14 janvier 2014 - 07:52 .

[dainbramage]

Phoenix_Fyre wrote...

Ahhh got it. So basically buy all
that you need before getting the second drakeskin set, because after
that store's closed?

Yeah. You can still comission the dragon scale after he's shut, but nothing else.

AshenSugar wrote...

You can get both - here's how.

You speak to Herron, and start the quest which requires three drake scales, and pay Wade 10 gold to 'speed things up', leave the shop, go into Goldanna's home next door in order to transit the area, return to the shop.

Wade will give you the normal drakescale armor, but he'll express dissatisfaction with his efforts, you then speak to Herron again give Wade your other three drake scales, and pay him 20 gold to 'make it perfect', leave the shop, go to Goldanna's home.

Back to the shop, Wade will then give you the superior drakescale armor.

You then tell Herron you've a dragonscale, Wade willl make the superior dragonbone armor on the spot without you having to leave the shop.

After that he'll shut the shop.

There you go - all three armor sets, total cost 30 gold, 6 drake scales, one dragon scale.

You only need to pay him once to get the superior dragonscale set. First time is better obviously since it costs less, but paying twice just puts you 20 gold behind.

[AshenSugar]

But would I not be right in thinking that paying him twice gets you the superior drakescale set, as well as the superior dragonbone?

[dainbramage]

You get the superior drakescale set the second time regardless of any payment (including if you never pay). Payment only determines if the dragonscale set is superior or not.

[keeneaow]

Cailan's arms and armor is hands down the best stuff for AW,
+5 mana regeneration for sustainables, and +5 life regeneration for BM spells.
But due to how console users get awesome mana regeneration from various weapons & armor,
it is well worth investigating dual wield with haste & buffed flaming weapons

[Argolas]

I plan to do a AW tank playthrough soon. I already decided on the equipment (Spellweaver, Champion's Shield/ Fade Wall as soon as it is available, Evon the Great), but I am not sure about the stats. Full Magic or only enough magic for heavy equipment and the rest into Dex?