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[Comrade Wakizashi]

On their own accord, yes. But not for the purpose of destroying organics. They interpreted their path as the best way to defend themselves against hostility from the Quarians. My point is simply that the geth are in no way evidence of the Catalyst's claim of necessary synthetic plans to wipe out all organic life.

[Invisible Man]

Armass81 wrote...

A direct quote from Legion in ME2: "Geth build our own future. The heretics asked the old machines to give them the future. They are no longer part of us."

You see, they asked. They did it willingly on their part. Of course you can always claim that Legion is lying. But If its lying about this, what else could it lie about? After all most what we really know about the geth comes from it.

we don't know if they were indoctrinated first, it could be that legion wasn't lying, simply mistaken.

[Comrade Wakizashi]

Helios969 wrote...

Comrade Wakizashi wrote...

Helios969 wrote...

Comrade Wakizashi wrote...

Helios969 wrote...

I think there is an inherent flaw in the way they were written, nevermind the contradiction of the Geth-Quarian conflict. Organics create synthetics...synthetics surpass organics intellectually but cannot understand them emotionally...synthetics decide to exterminate organics.

Just as likely: Organics create synthetics...synthetics surpass organics...synthetics find a nice quite part of the galaxy to continue their evolutionary progression because the complexity of organic emotions are incomprehensible - too many variables and impossible to quantify.

That's exactly a big portion of the flaw in the Catalyst's logic. I don't think it was a mistake by the developers though It's just the way the Catalyst reasons. And that reasoning is flawed. The geth are an example of a synthetic species that just seek to isolate themselves and keep away from organic civilization. The fact that geth keep showing up as enemies is mostly the result of active Reaper meddling and Quarian stupidity.

Also, why would hyperadvanced machines care if we went extinct, e.g. our tech/way of life wasn't preserved?  Really, why does it matter?  Subservience versus self-determination?

They have been programmed to care. They just don't care about the way in which they do it. But they care about preserving genetics because that's in their programmed way of thinking.

So for all their supposed intelligence it comes down to Legion's math error.  Leviathan's mandate: "preservation of life" turns into preservation of the collective knowledge of each life form designated to be harvested.  Which takes me back to my original point that the flaw is in the way the Reapers were written.  I just can't buy into these hyper-intelligent machines with countless harvest cycles stretching back millions of years unable to recognize the concept that a species cannot be summed up by broad aspects of their natures, cultures, and societies...and their genetic makeup.  It would be like trying to write an equation that encapsulates every aspect of what it is to be human and have every human say: yep, that's me.

There is definitely a flaw in the Reapers' logic. But they themselves are unable to see that, since it would require thinking "outside the box".

[Daemul]

Invisible Man wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

A direct quote from Legion in ME2: "Geth build our own future. The heretics asked the old machines to give them the future. They are no longer part of us."

You see, they asked. They did it willingly on their part. Of course you can always claim that Legion is lying. But If its lying about this, what else could it lie about? After all most what we really know about the geth comes from it.

we don't know if they were indoctrinated first, it could be that legion wasn't lying, simply mistaken.

This makes no sense. Why would Sovereign take control of a small percentage of the Geth instead of all of them? it would give him a bigger chance of success no?  Also, have you never done the Geth Consensus mission in ME3? Legion would know instantly if Sovereign had hacked into the Geth consensus, which is what Sovereign would have to do to take control of the Geth. Legion was not mistaken at all. 

[Armass81]

Invisible Man wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

A direct quote from Legion in ME2: "Geth build our own future. The heretics asked the old machines to give them the future. They are no longer part of us."

You see, they asked. They did it willingly on their part. Of course you can always claim that Legion is lying. But If its lying about this, what else could it lie about? After all most what we really know about the geth comes from it.

we don't know if they were indoctrinated first, it could be that legion wasn't lying, simply mistaken.

Not really if you listen to Legion and what we know of the geth. They are not like organics.

Geth are aware of each other, they saw what happened to the heretics cause the heretics were still part of them when it happened. They were then allowed to leave peacefully.

Besides Legion the codex also speaks of this. The heretics made their own choice in following Sovereign. They were not hacked or "indoctrinated".

Modifié par Armass81, 15 janvier 2014 - 11:42 .

[Invisible Man]

Daemul wrote...

Invisible Man wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

A direct quote from Legion in ME2: "Geth build our own future. The heretics asked the old machines to give them the future. They are no longer part of us."

You see, they asked. They did it willingly on their part. Of course you can always claim that Legion is lying. But If its lying about this, what else could it lie about? After all most what we really know about the geth comes from it.

we don't know if they were indoctrinated first, it could be that legion wasn't lying, simply mistaken.

This makes no sense. Why would Sovereign take control of a small percentage of the Geth instead of all of them? it would give him a bigger chance of success no?  Also, have you never done the Geth Consensus mission in ME3? Legion would know instantly if Sovereign had hacked into the Geth consensus, which is what Sovereign would have to do to take control of the Geth. Legion was not mistaken at all. 

not if it was an isolated group of geth. a single sever not in constant contact perhaps. you can't presume to know the extent of the geth's detection capabilities from a single encounter in the geth consensus.

---edit
I'm not really advocating this theory either, I'm just saying I don't like people treating assumptions as fact, even if they may be logical, well informed assumptions, they are still assumptions.

Modifié par Invisible Man, 15 janvier 2014 - 11:41 .

[Armass81]

Invisible Man wrote...

Daemul wrote...

Invisible Man wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

A direct quote from Legion in ME2: "Geth build our own future. The heretics asked the old machines to give them the future. They are no longer part of us."

You see, they asked. They did it willingly on their part. Of course you can always claim that Legion is lying. But If its lying about this, what else could it lie about? After all most what we really know about the geth comes from it.

we don't know if they were indoctrinated first, it could be that legion wasn't lying, simply mistaken.

This makes no sense. Why would Sovereign take control of a small percentage of the Geth instead of all of them? it would give him a bigger chance of success no?  Also, have you never done the Geth Consensus mission in ME3? Legion would know instantly if Sovereign had hacked into the Geth consensus, which is what Sovereign would have to do to take control of the Geth. Legion was not mistaken at all. 

not if it was an isolated group of geth. a single sever not in constant contact perhaps. you can't presume to know the extent of the geth's detection capabilities from a single encounter in the geth consensus.

---edit
I'm not really advocating this theory either, I'm just saying I don't like people treating assumptions as fact, even if they may be logical, well informed assumptions, they are still assumptions.

Not according to Legion, it explicitly said the heretics were part of the main geth before they left and were allowed to leave in peace, and that geth knew each others thoughts. It says this when you inspect the server room on the heretic station.

Sure I guess everything possible, but you have to make huge leaps in thinking like this, like assuming Legion just lies through most of his loyalty mission as does the codex. I m working on what I see and hear in the game.

Kinda funny you say you dont like assumptions, when you throw in a big one yourself.

Modifié par Armass81, 15 janvier 2014 - 11:54 .

[Daemul]

Invisible Man wrote...

Daemul wrote...

Invisible Man wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

A direct quote from Legion in ME2: "Geth build our own future. The heretics asked the old machines to give them the future. They are no longer part of us."

You see, they asked. They did it willingly on their part. Of course you can always claim that Legion is lying. But If its lying about this, what else could it lie about? After all most what we really know about the geth comes from it.

we don't know if they were indoctrinated first, it could be that legion wasn't lying, simply mistaken.

This makes no sense. Why would Sovereign take control of a small percentage of the Geth instead of all of them? it would give him a bigger chance of success no?  Also, have you never done the Geth Consensus mission in ME3? Legion would know instantly if Sovereign had hacked into the Geth consensus, which is what Sovereign would have to do to take control of the Geth. Legion was not mistaken at all. 

not if it was an isolated group of geth. a single sever not in constant contact perhaps. you can't presume to know the extent of the geth's detection capabilities from a single encounter in the geth consensus.

---edit
I'm not really advocating this theory either, I'm just saying I don't like people treating assumptions as fact, even if they may be logical, well informed assumptions, they are still assumptions.

What isolated server? The Geth are one mind, one conscious, they are aware of each other. We know about the Geth's capabilites no only from the Geth Consensus mission, but also from what Legion told us about how the Geth work, there are no assumptions being made here. Honest question here, did you actually pay attention to anything Legion said?

 

[Comrade Wakizashi]

Psychevore wrote...

Organic life isn't destroyed, it's stored in Reaper form. Opposed to being eradicated by the synthetics they create, that is the better option.

Morality really doesn't matter when that is the problem.

Oh yes, because being stripped of your personality, individuality and free will and being turned first into some sort of goo and than added to a half-organic, half-synthetic abomination bent solely on genocide and harvesting for the sake of it is sooo much better than dying.

Seriously, give me death at the end of a synthetic enemy any day.

[Invisible Man]

Armass81 wrote...

Invisible Man wrote...

Daemul wrote...

Invisible Man wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

A direct quote from Legion in ME2: "Geth build our own future. The heretics asked the old machines to give them the future. They are no longer part of us."

You see, they asked. They did it willingly on their part. Of course you can always claim that Legion is lying. But If its lying about this, what else could it lie about? After all most what we really know about the geth comes from it.

we don't know if they were indoctrinated first, it could be that legion wasn't lying, simply mistaken.

This makes no sense. Why would Sovereign take control of a small percentage of the Geth instead of all of them? it would give him a bigger chance of success no?  Also, have you never done the Geth Consensus mission in ME3? Legion would know instantly if Sovereign had hacked into the Geth consensus, which is what Sovereign would have to do to take control of the Geth. Legion was not mistaken at all. 

not if it was an isolated group of geth. a single sever not in constant contact perhaps. you can't presume to know the extent of the geth's detection capabilities from a single encounter in the geth consensus.

---edit
I'm not really advocating this theory either, I'm just saying I don't like people treating assumptions as fact, even if they may be logical, well informed assumptions, they are still assumptions.

Not according to Legion, it explicitly said the heretics were part of the main geth before they left and were allowed to leave in peace, and that geth knew each others thoughts. It says this when you inspect the server room on the heretic station.

Sure I guess everything possible, but you have to make huge leaps in thinking like this, like assuming Legion just lies through most of his loyalty mission as does the codex. I m working on what I see and hear in the game.

the geth's consciousness seemed to change between me1 & me2, as well as between me2 & me3. I just wish they would pick something and stick with it.

[Daemul]

Armass81 wrote...

Invisible Man wrote...

Daemul wrote...

Invisible Man wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

A direct quote from Legion in ME2: "Geth build our own future. The heretics asked the old machines to give them the future. They are no longer part of us."

You see, they asked. They did it willingly on their part. Of course you can always claim that Legion is lying. But If its lying about this, what else could it lie about? After all most what we really know about the geth comes from it.

we don't know if they were indoctrinated first, it could be that legion wasn't lying, simply mistaken.

This makes no sense. Why would Sovereign take control of a small percentage of the Geth instead of all of them? it would give him a bigger chance of success no?  Also, have you never done the Geth Consensus mission in ME3? Legion would know instantly if Sovereign had hacked into the Geth consensus, which is what Sovereign would have to do to take control of the Geth. Legion was not mistaken at all. 

not if it was an isolated group of geth. a single sever not in constant contact perhaps. you can't presume to know the extent of the geth's detection capabilities from a single encounter in the geth consensus.

---edit
I'm not really advocating this theory either, I'm just saying I don't like people treating assumptions as fact, even if they may be logical, well informed assumptions, they are still assumptions.

Not according to Legion, it explicitly said the heretics were part of the main geth before they left and were allowed to leave in peace, and that geth knew each others thoughts. It says this when you inspect the server room on the heretic station.

Sure I guess everything possible, but you have to make huge leaps in thinking like this, like assuming Legion just lies through most of his loyalty mission as does the codex. I m working on what I see and hear in the game.

Kinda funny you say you dont like assumptions, when you throw in a big one yourself.

Agreed, that line of thinking would mean that everything we have been told is a lie. 

[DarthLaxian]

congokong wrote...

Most fans hate the Catalyst (maybe because of its form) but it actually
brought an insight into the reapers' motivations besides the "you cannot
comprehend" arrogance of Sovereign, Harbinger, and the reaper on
Rannoch.

It's actually not that hard to comprehend. The debate is
the ethics of this "ends justify the means" rationale for the harvests.
The logic is that the catalyst has studied countless civilizations and
the dangers of technological progression. Every single civilization
inevitably ended with synthetics being created, surpassing organics, and
eventually destroying them. Leviathan originally intervened to destroy
these synthetics before they could destroy other organic societies but
later created the catalyst as a mediator. The catalyst realized that
Leviathan creating it proved that Leviathan was making the same errors
the lesser species were. Therefore the reapers were made to destroy
Leviathan and any advanced organics/synthetics before synthetics could
dominate all life in the galaxy. While this gives organics free reign to
live it also put them on a timer that was accelerated by the invention
of mass relays (done to make harvesting easier as they'd technologically
progress along a linear path as well as a means for the reapers to
travel).

A theme throughout the series is the dangers of
technology. The idea is that without Leviathan or the reapers eventually
all organics will be enslaved or killed by synthetics. So are the
reapers right?

got to butt in here:

there is NO EVIDENCE of this - because if that would be the case (organics being wiped out by synthetics), then were are those synthetics that have WIPED out organics? - did the just "go home" after there were no more organics to kill?

greetings LAX
ps: yes i hate that space-magic-boy, what he says is NONSENSE (bullcrap!) - he is a bad Deus Ex Ghosty Machina

[Armass81]

Daemul wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

Invisible Man wrote...

Daemul wrote...

Invisible Man wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

A direct quote from Legion in ME2: "Geth build our own future. The heretics asked the old machines to give them the future. They are no longer part of us."

You see, they asked. They did it willingly on their part. Of course you can always claim that Legion is lying. But If its lying about this, what else could it lie about? After all most what we really know about the geth comes from it.

we don't know if they were indoctrinated first, it could be that legion wasn't lying, simply mistaken.

This makes no sense. Why would Sovereign take control of a small percentage of the Geth instead of all of them? it would give him a bigger chance of success no?  Also, have you never done the Geth Consensus mission in ME3? Legion would know instantly if Sovereign had hacked into the Geth consensus, which is what Sovereign would have to do to take control of the Geth. Legion was not mistaken at all. 

not if it was an isolated group of geth. a single sever not in constant contact perhaps. you can't presume to know the extent of the geth's detection capabilities from a single encounter in the geth consensus.

---edit
I'm not really advocating this theory either, I'm just saying I don't like people treating assumptions as fact, even if they may be logical, well informed assumptions, they are still assumptions.

Not according to Legion, it explicitly said the heretics were part of the main geth before they left and were allowed to leave in peace, and that geth knew each others thoughts. It says this when you inspect the server room on the heretic station.

Sure I guess everything possible, but you have to make huge leaps in thinking like this, like assuming Legion just lies through most of his loyalty mission as does the codex. I m working on what I see and hear in the game.

Kinda funny you say you dont like assumptions, when you throw in a big one yourself.

Agreed, that line of thinking would mean that everything we have been told is a lie. 

Maybe the whole game series is a lie. And ME4 we simply wake from a dream and there are no reapers at all, but the rest of the universe is still there.

[Daemul]

Invisible Man wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

Invisible Man wrote...

Daemul wrote...

Invisible Man wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

A direct quote from Legion in ME2: "Geth build our own future. The heretics asked the old machines to give them the future. They are no longer part of us."

You see, they asked. They did it willingly on their part. Of course you can always claim that Legion is lying. But If its lying about this, what else could it lie about? After all most what we really know about the geth comes from it.

we don't know if they were indoctrinated first, it could be that legion wasn't lying, simply mistaken.

This makes no sense. Why would Sovereign take control of a small percentage of the Geth instead of all of them? it would give him a bigger chance of success no?  Also, have you never done the Geth Consensus mission in ME3? Legion would know instantly if Sovereign had hacked into the Geth consensus, which is what Sovereign would have to do to take control of the Geth. Legion was not mistaken at all. 

not if it was an isolated group of geth. a single sever not in constant contact perhaps. you can't presume to know the extent of the geth's detection capabilities from a single encounter in the geth consensus.

---edit
I'm not really advocating this theory either, I'm just saying I don't like people treating assumptions as fact, even if they may be logical, well informed assumptions, they are still assumptions.

Not according to Legion, it explicitly said the heretics were part of the main geth before they left and were allowed to leave in peace, and that geth knew each others thoughts. It says this when you inspect the server room on the heretic station.

Sure I guess everything possible, but you have to make huge leaps in thinking like this, like assuming Legion just lies through most of his loyalty mission as does the codex. I m working on what I see and hear in the game.

the geth's consciousness seemed to change between me1 & me2, as well as between me2 & me3. I just wish they would pick something and stick with it.

What do you mean by this? We knew nothing about the Geth Consensus in ME1, how could anything change?

Modifié par Daemul, 16 janvier 2014 - 12:00 .

[Invisible Man]

Daemul wrote...

Invisible Man wrote...

Daemul wrote...

Invisible Man wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

A direct quote from Legion in ME2: "Geth build our own future. The heretics asked the old machines to give them the future. They are no longer part of us."

You see, they asked. They did it willingly on their part. Of course you can always claim that Legion is lying. But If its lying about this, what else could it lie about? After all most what we really know about the geth comes from it.

we don't know if they were indoctrinated first, it could be that legion wasn't lying, simply mistaken.

This makes no sense. Why would Sovereign take control of a small percentage of the Geth instead of all of them? it would give him a bigger chance of success no?  Also, have you never done the Geth Consensus mission in ME3? Legion would know instantly if Sovereign had hacked into the Geth consensus, which is what Sovereign would have to do to take control of the Geth. Legion was not mistaken at all. 

not if it was an isolated group of geth. a single sever not in constant contact perhaps. you can't presume to know the extent of the geth's detection capabilities from a single encounter in the geth consensus.

---edit
I'm not really advocating this theory either, I'm just saying I don't like people treating assumptions as fact, even if they may be logical, well informed assumptions, they are still assumptions.

What isolated server? The Geth are one mind, one conscious, they are aware of each other. We know about the Geth's capabilites no only from the Geth Consensus mission, but also from what Legion told us about how the Geth work, there are no assumptions being made here. Honest question here, did you actually pay attention to anything Legion said?

 

remember when you asked legion how quickly the virus would spread? he mentioned that isolated geth servers only connected into the geth consensus periodically... that's why it would take more time to spread through such areas, though I think it's like a day or so, though it's been a while since I've played me2.

[Invisible Man]

Daemul wrote...

What do you mean by this? We knew nothing about the Geth in ME1, how could anything change?

did you talk to tali at all about the geth in me1?

[Armass81]

Daemul wrote...

Invisible Man wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

Invisible Man wrote...

Daemul wrote...

Invisible Man wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

A direct quote from Legion in ME2: "Geth build our own future. The heretics asked the old machines to give them the future. They are no longer part of us."

You see, they asked. They did it willingly on their part. Of course you can always claim that Legion is lying. But If its lying about this, what else could it lie about? After all most what we really know about the geth comes from it.

we don't know if they were indoctrinated first, it could be that legion wasn't lying, simply mistaken.

This makes no sense. Why would Sovereign take control of a small percentage of the Geth instead of all of them? it would give him a bigger chance of success no?  Also, have you never done the Geth Consensus mission in ME3? Legion would know instantly if Sovereign had hacked into the Geth consensus, which is what Sovereign would have to do to take control of the Geth. Legion was not mistaken at all. 

not if it was an isolated group of geth. a single sever not in constant contact perhaps. you can't presume to know the extent of the geth's detection capabilities from a single encounter in the geth consensus.

---edit
I'm not really advocating this theory either, I'm just saying I don't like people treating assumptions as fact, even if they may be logical, well informed assumptions, they are still assumptions.

Not according to Legion, it explicitly said the heretics were part of the main geth before they left and were allowed to leave in peace, and that geth knew each others thoughts. It says this when you inspect the server room on the heretic station.

Sure I guess everything possible, but you have to make huge leaps in thinking like this, like assuming Legion just lies through most of his loyalty mission as does the codex. I m working on what I see and hear in the game.

the geth's consciousness seemed to change between me1 & me2, as well as between me2 & me3. I just wish they would pick something and stick with it.

What do you mean by this? We knew nothing about the Geth Consensus in ME1, how could anything change?

Yes. All we know is what the codex tells us, and some biased information from Tali. And Saren says they think Sovereign is some kind of god.

Also what tali knows of them is not the whole picture, she knows what they were. They have improved since then as Talis mission shows, evolved in a way. Thats part of the data she can take to the flotilla.

Modifié par Armass81, 16 janvier 2014 - 12:05 .

[Invisible Man]

I said I don't like assumptions being used as facts, when I make assumptions I try to let people know I'm making assumptions. other then the facts I've used have I tried to use assumptions as fact or have I stated somehow that they are assumptions?

[Daemul]

Invisible Man wrote...

Daemul wrote...

Invisible Man wrote...

Daemul wrote...

Invisible Man wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

A direct quote from Legion in ME2: "Geth build our own future. The heretics asked the old machines to give them the future. They are no longer part of us."

You see, they asked. They did it willingly on their part. Of course you can always claim that Legion is lying. But If its lying about this, what else could it lie about? After all most what we really know about the geth comes from it.

we don't know if they were indoctrinated first, it could be that legion wasn't lying, simply mistaken.

This makes no sense. Why would Sovereign take control of a small percentage of the Geth instead of all of them? it would give him a bigger chance of success no?  Also, have you never done the Geth Consensus mission in ME3? Legion would know instantly if Sovereign had hacked into the Geth consensus, which is what Sovereign would have to do to take control of the Geth. Legion was not mistaken at all. 

not if it was an isolated group of geth. a single sever not in constant contact perhaps. you can't presume to know the extent of the geth's detection capabilities from a single encounter in the geth consensus.

---edit
I'm not really advocating this theory either, I'm just saying I don't like people treating assumptions as fact, even if they may be logical, well informed assumptions, they are still assumptions.

What isolated server? The Geth are one mind, one conscious, they are aware of each other. We know about the Geth's capabilites no only from the Geth Consensus mission, but also from what Legion told us about how the Geth work, there are no assumptions being made here. Honest question here, did you actually pay attention to anything Legion said?

 

 I think it's like a day or so,

it's been a while since I've played me2.

I see what you did there.

Modifié par Daemul, 16 janvier 2014 - 12:05 .

[congokong]

DarthLaxian wrote...

congokong wrote...

Most fans hate the Catalyst (maybe because of its form) but it actually
brought an insight into the reapers' motivations besides the "you cannot
comprehend" arrogance of Sovereign, Harbinger, and the reaper on
Rannoch.

It's actually not that hard to comprehend. The debate is
the ethics of this "ends justify the means" rationale for the harvests.
The logic is that the catalyst has studied countless civilizations and
the dangers of technological progression. Every single civilization
inevitably ended with synthetics being created, surpassing organics, and
eventually destroying them. Leviathan originally intervened to destroy
these synthetics before they could destroy other organic societies but
later created the catalyst as a mediator. The catalyst realized that
Leviathan creating it proved that Leviathan was making the same errors
the lesser species were. Therefore the reapers were made to destroy
Leviathan and any advanced organics/synthetics before synthetics could
dominate all life in the galaxy. While this gives organics free reign to
live it also put them on a timer that was accelerated by the invention
of mass relays (done to make harvesting easier as they'd technologically
progress along a linear path as well as a means for the reapers to
travel).

A theme throughout the series is the dangers of
technology. The idea is that without Leviathan or the reapers eventually
all organics will be enslaved or killed by synthetics. So are the
reapers right?

got to butt in here:

there is NO EVIDENCE of this - because if that would be the case (organics being wiped out by synthetics), then were are those synthetics that have WIPED out organics? - did the just "go home" after there were no more organics to kill?

greetings LAX
ps: yes i hate that space-magic-boy, what he says is NONSENSE (bullcrap!) - he is a bad Deus Ex Ghosty Machina

Did you not read the post before replying? Leviathan originally intervened. Then the reapers.

[Invisible Man]

Daemul wrote...


I see what you did there.

I'm not sure I follow, I said it's about an extra day for the virus to spread to the more remote servers, but it's been a while since I've played me2, so I can't be sure. what's the issue?

[Daemul]

Invisible Man wrote...

Daemul wrote...


I see what you did there.

I'm not sure I follow, I said it's about an extra day for the virus to spread to the more remote servers, but it's been a while since I've played me2, so I can't be sure. what's the issue?

You didn't get the joke? I tried so hard 

[Invisible Man]

Daemul wrote...

Invisible Man wrote...

Daemul wrote...


I see what you did there.

I'm not sure I follow, I said it's about an extra day for the virus to spread to the more remote servers, but it's been a while since I've played me2, so I can't be sure. what's the issue?

You didn't get the joke? I tried so hard 

oh, I'm a bit slow today. been sick most of this last month. I'm just not on top of my game right now.

[Daemul]

Invisible Man wrote...

Daemul wrote...

Invisible Man wrote...

Daemul wrote...


I see what you did there.

I'm not sure I follow, I said it's about an extra day for the virus to spread to the more remote servers, but it's been a while since I've played me2, so I can't be sure. what's the issue?

You didn't get the joke? I tried so hard 

oh, I'm a bit slow today. been sick most of this last month. I'm just not on top of my game right now.

It's cool. Hope you get better. 

[Invisible Man]

I get better, then I get worse, then better... etc. I have to say the whole rollercoaster effect is more annoying then actually being sick. i almost feel like I'd prefer if it went in just one direction for a while, even if it means i get worse for a while.