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[Sir Arun]

One thing I never understood is when the Protheans closed off the Citadel Relay leading into deep space, and Shepard destroyed the Alpha Relay, how did the Reapers manage to get into our galaxy?

You'd think the Citadel Relay was the only relay leading into deep space, or, if you take the ME2 Arrival DLC, the oldest conventional relay, the Alpha relay, being another entrance.

Is it explained somewhere that there is another entrance or is this just Bioware going herp a derp we can't sacrifice Mass Effect 3 for the actions of Shepard in Arrival?

Modifié par Sir Arun, 12 janvier 2014 - 09:08 .

[Excella Gionne]

Uh, they can simply access the Milky Way whenever they want, but they do travel at faster speeds that are faster than FTL. Why do you think it took them so long to reach the Milky Way's systems, most notably, the Bahak System? They traveled into the Bahak System, but since the Alpha Relay was destroyed by either Shepard or an Alliance Crew by Hackett's orders, that delayed thier initial attack. It takes a long time to travel from one system to another, that is why Mass Relays are there. With the Alpha Relay destroyed, it took them a months to reach other systems, but eventually they did.

Modifié par johnnythao89, 12 janvier 2014 - 09:15 .

[ImaginaryMatter]

Apparently, it only takes them two years to fly in with no side effects. I think the ME2 writers settled on this because they couldn't think of another way, it does leave behind a lot of questions though. Like, how far were they really in Dark Space, wouldn't two years place them just outside the galaxies edge? How come no one decided to back up Sovereign and instead left him alone for 2,000 or so years?

[Gethrian]

ImaginaryMatter wrote...

Apparently, it only takes them two years to fly in with no side effects. I think the ME2 writers settled on this because they couldn't think of another way, it does leave behind a lot of questions though. Like, how far were they really in Dark Space, wouldn't two years place them just outside the galaxies edge? How come no one decided to back up Sovereign and instead left him alone for 2,000 or so years?

As I have understood it Sovereign was only  there to check when the galaxy was ready for next harvest. When it was Sovereign would send signal to Keepers to activate Citadel as Mass Relay. If this cycle was first time that plan had failed then I'm guessing Reapers never thought Sovereing needed help since he normally would had stayed hidden. As for the rest I don't know

[nos_astra]

But if all they need is 2 years to fly in and still win without a decapitation strike and locking the relays why on earth did they wait for decades and maybe centuries for Sovereign?

Why didn't they take the indoctrination route instead of trying to steamroll everything?

Modifié par klarabella, 12 janvier 2014 - 09:56 .

[NeonFlux117]

klarabella wrote...

But if all they need is 2 years to fly in and still win without a decapitation strike and locking the relays why on earth did they wait for decades and maybe centuries for Sovereign?

Why didn't they take the indoctrination route instead of trying to steamroll everything?

Who say's they didnt' take the indoctrination route. 

Why is Harbigner still on Earth during the entirity of ME3??? 

Why is it just waiting there??? 


Oh wait, I know the answer. 

"Cause video games and stuff". 

Just apply the latter to every plothole and question you ever have about Mass Effect. It's so much easier that way. 

[Sir Arun]

As I have understood it Sovereign was only  there to check when the galaxy was ready for next harvest. When it was Sovereign would send signal to Keepers to activate Citadel as Mass Relay.

But that would imply that the Citadel Relay has an exit Relay sitting in an area somewhere out in the middle of deep space known as Reaper parking lot.

In fact, the existence of this "exit Relay" is further proven by the final cutscene in the Arrival DLC where you see all the Reapers in deep space heading toward an operational relay.


Also, I played the Arrival DLC and nowhere is it implied that the Reapers arrived conventionally into the Bahak system rather than through the Alpha Relay. So by destroying it they should technically be done for, but there had to be a trilogy and it would have made for a rather anticlimactic ending to the series, lol.

Modifié par Sir Arun, 12 janvier 2014 - 10:08 .

[Bushido Effect]

Sorry random question..

How do I find my subscribed topics? I don't know where it is and been clicking around. Say I sub to this topic, all I see is "unsubscribe" in place of the old icon. Where is my list of followed topics? Thanks.

[cap and gown]

Sir Arun wrote...

Also, I played the Arrival DLC and nowhere is it implied that the Reapers arrived conventionally into the Bahak system rather than through the Alpha Relay. So by destroying it they should technically be done for, but there had to be a trilogy and it would have made for a rather anticlimactic ending to the series, lol.

My impression was that they were flying into the Bahak system which is at the edge of the galaxy, not that they used the Alpha relay to arrive in the galaxy. The cinematic looked like they were fly towards the relay in order to use it, not that they had just used it. So: fly from inter-galactic space to Bahak, then use Alpha relay to access rest of galaxy.

[AlanC9]

klarabella wrote...
But if all they need is 2 years to fly in and still win without a decapitation strike and locking the relays why on earth did they wait for decades and maybe centuries for Sovereign?

Why didn't they take the indoctrination route instead of trying to steamroll everything?

Two different issues; the second's more serious than the first.

It's not established anywhere that the Reapers actually flew to the galaxy in normal FTL; a Codex entry soeculates that's what they did, but this is speculation. It's not inconceivable that this is what actually happened; until Sovereign and then Arrival failed they still had the option to bring off their standard decapitation strike, and time wasn't working against them since Citadel military strength and tech had been stagnant for centuries. You could even headcanon that Sovereign panicked because humans were upsetting that stagnation, if you like. But it's also conceivable that there was another Alpha Relay someplace, and nobody dropped an asteroid into that one.

Indoctrination's more of a problem. It doesn't make much sense for Sovereign to let Saren or Benezia anywhere near the Conduit plan; they should have been used to build an indoctrinated fifth column on the Citadel itself instead.I'm leaning towards the "Sovereign panicked" hypothesis to get around this.

Modifié par AlanC9, 12 janvier 2014 - 04:30 .