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[Sir Arun]

Was this a hidden easter egg all along by Bioware?

If Javik is alive (hell, we don't even need him, but listen...)

In Mass Effect 3 there is a quest where all you need to do is obtain the skull of this dead reptile mount thingy, and the Salarian scientists then clone them and bring them back to life for the Krogans to ride into battle on.

So if a species can be brought back from extinction like this (and after all the quest is concluded and the Salarians really do manage to accomplish this in record time while the war is going on) wouldnt that mean the Protheans arent going extinct after all? We dont even need Javik; we can find the coffins on Ilos and use the dead Protheans to being them back this way.

[Sir DeLoria]

Sure that's possible, any species can be brought back with sufficient DNA. The question is, do we really want to have more than one Javik running around?

[NeonFlux117]

Also Awakened Collectors Via Leviathan....

Don't think about the plot too much in ME3.

But yes. Indeed what you say is a possibility.

And Shepard can be cloned... As evident in Citadel DLC.

So... Yeah. Clones everywhere!!!!

One could say it's like an.....

Attack of the Clones.

[TheMyron]

Most insisted on "no"

Read:

Fate of the Prothean Race

Modifié par TheMyron, 12 janvier 2014 - 11:01 .

[JasonShepard]

Unfortunately, the reason why dinosaurs can't be cloned a-la Jurassic Park (which is what that little War Asset quest is referencing) is because the DNA will have almost certainly degraded over the course of 65 million years.

However, Protheans have only been gone for 50,000 years. So yes, if you got a complete sample of Prothean DNA, you could clone yourself some Protheans.

But what would be the point? You'd be making new Protheans, not resurrecting the old ones. They would know nothing of the culture that they came from, and they would be without a place in the modern world.
If you want to create new life, there's plenty of ways to do it - why specifically make new Protheans?

[TheMyron]

JasonShepard wrote...

Unfortunately, the reason why dinosaurs can't be cloned a-la Jurassic Park (which is what that little War Asset quest is referencing) is because the DNA will have almost certainly degraded over the course of 65 million years.

However, Protheans have only been gone for 50,000 years. So yes, if you got a complete sample of Prothean DNA, you could clone yourself some Protheans.

But what would be the point? You'd be making new Protheans, not resurrecting the old ones. They would know nothing of the culture that they came from, and they would be without a place in the modern world.
If you want to create new life, there's plenty of ways to do it - why specifically make new Protheans?

You recover lots of intact Prothean discs/shards in ME1...

[CrutchCricket]

JasonShepard wrote...
But what would be the point? You'd be making new Protheans, not resurrecting the old ones. They would know nothing of the culture that they came from, and they would be without a place in the modern world.
If you want to create new life, there's plenty of ways to do it - why specifically make new Protheans?

Actually the Protheans would be an interesting case because of their tactile memory psychic sense thing. They would be able to absorb knowledge that would make them closer to their roots than any other cloned organism could be. And there's plenty or Prothean artifacts left for them to use.

Unfortunately most of them would be about the Reapers so you have to ask yourself if exposing a newly created creature to that is the best course of action.

[Arcian]

Necanor wrote...

Sure that's possible, any species can be brought back with sufficient DNA. The question is, do we really want to have more than one Javik running around?

Only a primitive would answer no.

Are you a primitive, Necanor?

JasonShepard wrote...

Unfortunately, the reason why dinosaurs can't be cloned a-la Jurassic Park (which is what that little War Asset quest is referencing) is because the DNA will have almost certainly degraded over the course of 65 million years.

However, Protheans have only been gone for 50,000 years. So yes, if you got a complete sample of Prothean DNA, you could clone yourself some Protheans.

Actually, DNA (at least DNA found on Earth) has a half-life of 521 years. If the prothean DNA has a similar half-life, its completely useless by now.

HOWEVER. Javik (and his DNA) was kept in stasis, so it's still fresh and can be cloned.

JasonShepard wrote...

But what would be the point? You'd be making new Protheans, not resurrecting the old ones. They would know nothing of the culture that they came from, and they would be without a place in the modern world.
If you want to create new life, there's plenty of ways to do it - why specifically make new Protheans?

Because his species deserves to exist. It wouldn't be bringing back the old protheans, but creating new, modern protheans that can co-exist with the rest of us on equal terms. Their purpose wouldn't be to reclaim old history, but to write new history.

Modifié par Arcian, 12 janvier 2014 - 09:05 .

[shodiswe]

Bringing back or creating an organic race is no better than creating a syntheticone. There is no good reason.

[Dubozz]

Javik + Mac Walters + Space Magic = New Prothean Empire in ME4. Also Protheans will join Cerberus. To fight against themselves.

Modifié par Dubozz, 12 janvier 2014 - 10:57 .

[Arcian]

shodiswe wrote...

Bringing back or creating an organic race is no better than creating a syntheticone. There is no good reason.

Spoken like a true primitive.

Dubozz wrote...

Javik + Mac Walters + Space Magic = New Prothean Empire in ME4.

You got one part of that wrong.

Mac Walters? He doesn't write aliens.

Modifié par Arcian, 12 janvier 2014 - 11:11 .

[Spetulhu]

Javik would probably object anyway. The protheans were weak and stupid enough to let themself get wiped out. They don't deserve to come back.

[sevalaricgirl]

The problem is, you'd be cloning a male since your sample is male, so there would be no propagation of the species unless you had a female. No female, so species. Javik is a one of a kind.

[Artifex_Imperius]

Spetulhu wrote...

Javik would probably object anyway. The protheans were weak and stupid enough to let themself get wiped out. They don't deserve to come back.

Dont write the protheans out! it was through their ingeniuty that shepard cycle survived. ? illos remember. they prevented reapers from using the citadel. effectively ruining reaper strategy leading the next cycle to victory.

for a thousand cycles only the protheans had what it took to pave the way to the defeat of the reapers.

prothean persistence even though they're species was already dead saved shepards cycle.

Modifié par Artifex_Imperius, 13 janvier 2014 - 11:19 .

[shodiswe]

sevalaricgirl wrote...

The problem is, you'd be cloning a male since your sample is male, so there would be no propagation of the species unless you had a female. No female, so species. Javik is a one of a kind.

Maybe there would be enough samples in the pods on Eden prime and Ilum.
Not that I think it's a good idea.

[Arcian]

sevalaricgirl wrote...

The problem is, you'd be cloning a male since your sample is male, so there would be no propagation of the species unless you had a female. No female, so species. Javik is a one of a kind.

Our grounded civilization is on the cusp of being able to artificially create female sperm and male eggs, so it goes without saying that the Citadel species mastered this a long time ago.

[NeonFlux117]

Yes the can be brought back. How and Why? Don't really matter. Cause the ROC (Rule of Cool) supersedes everything and anything.

And you gotta admit. Collectors are cool. And now they're your Collector buddies.

So cool. See, ROC.

Most of ME3 sacrifices established lore and/or logical notions for ROC.

Just go with the flow y'all and shoot some bad guys in the face and defeat the Machine Gods and become a "legend".

The above is Mass Effect in a nutshell.

[shodiswe]

Arcian wrote...

sevalaricgirl wrote...

The problem is, you'd be cloning a male since your sample is male, so there would be no propagation of the species unless you had a female. No female, so species. Javik is a one of a kind.

Our grounded civilization is on the cusp of being able to artificially create female sperm and male eggs, so it goes without saying that the Citadel species mastered this a long time ago.

There is also the problem with inbreeding... Just one or a hand full of individuals might not be enough for a sustained population. It would be more of a cruel curiosity otherwise. A freakshow doomed to genetic failure.

[CrutchCricket]

sevalaricgirl wrote...

The problem is, you'd be cloning a male since your sample is male, so there would be no propagation of the species unless you had a female. No female, so species. Javik is a one of a kind.

It's ok, they'd use other DNA, possibly amphibian to make female Protheans. Then they'd want to try and control the population by not allowing them to breed in the wild. But life....uh... finds a way.

[AlanC9]

You've got Javik's genes. How do you restore diversity to the species? Guesswork?

[NeonFlux117]

AlanC9 wrote...

You've got Javik's genes. How do you restore diversity to the species? Guesswork?

ROC Alan, the ROC. That's how. 

Next question. 

[Big Destiny]

yes

[Excella Gionne]

You can find a lot of protheans in Multiplayer!

[NeonFlux117]

johnnythao89 wrote...

You can find a lot of protheans in Multiplayer!

Such an OP class, especially with Harrier or Talon... Meh, what am I saying. Everything is OP with Talon or Harrier....

[DeathScepter]

*calls the Cerberus labs and tell them to clone Javik and the Protheans*