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Is Mike-o on PC? My bad, thought he was on sexbox...

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TSent ...Reedem him when you have PPR or arc pistol. 


Alright, I have a level 1 Arc Pistol now. Why is it particulary good for TSent? Any reason I should choose it over my lvl 10 uncommons?

Modifié par Mike-o, 25 janvier 2014 - 04:13 .


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Mike-o wrote...

TSent ...Reedem him when you have PPR or arc pistol. 


Alright, I have a level 1 Arc Pistol now. Why is it particulary good for TSent? Any reason I should choose it over my lvl 10 uncommons?

Overload staggers humanoid enemies in a ver predictable way, which makes getting headshots easy. Factor in Turian passives which offer a big bonus to weapon damage and stability (not that the Arc Pistol needs the latter), and the Arc Pistol's very high damage per charged shot, and you have a kit that, with practice, can easily steal the show on Gold (and Plat once you're comfortable with it and have the Arc Pistol at level 10).

Here is a thread specifically about the Arc Pistol by Max Dmian.

Modifié par FatherOfPearl, 25 janvier 2014 - 04:21 .


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Mike-o wrote...

TSent ...Reedem him when you have PPR or arc pistol. 


Alright, I have a level 1 Arc Pistol now. Why is it particulary good for TSent? Any reason I should choose it over my lvl 10 uncommons?


The arc pistol is great (though not necessarily on level 1) but you don't need it to make the TSent great. Pick any of your uncommon AR or SMG he is great with any of them. I strongly suggest to try the Tempest on him (with incendiary ammo if you want fire explosions) there should be no recoil (esp on-host, off-host the turian stability passives sometimes bugged).

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Here is a thread specifically about the Arc Pistol by Max Dmian.


*checks it* Yeah, right. I'll read volumes of data and info only to enjoy the game. With no disrespect, thanks, I'd rather suck than put more thought into a supposedly relaxing way of spending time than I do into my college studies.

*shivers*

Anyway, AR's or SMG's for TSent? I thought the point about that guy is to walk up the mobs' face and shoot them off with shotguns. Kislitsin's build suggested that, and it seems reasonable. Why middle-long range AR's and SMG's?

Modifié par Mike-o, 25 janvier 2014 - 06:34 .


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Mike-o wrote...

FatherOfPearl wrote...

Here is a thread specifically about the Arc Pistol by Max Dmian.


*checks it* Yeah, right. I'll read volumes of data and info only to enjoy the game. With no desrespect, thanks, I'd rather suck than put more thought into a supposedly relaxing way of spending time than I do into my college studies.

*shivers*

Anyway, AR's or SMG's for TSent? I thought the point about that guy is to walk up the mobs' face and shoot them off with shotguns. Kislitsin's build suggested that, and it seems reasonable. Why middle-long range AR's and SMG's?


Max's excellent thread contains about 1000 words (roughly 5 minutes worth) and an 8 minute long video. If absorbing that information takes you more time than you spend on your college studies then your prospects don't look too good.

How much reading have you already done in this thread?

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Mike-o wrote...

Anyway, AR's or SMG's for TSent? I thought the point about that guy is to walk up the mobs' face and shoot them off with shotguns. Kislitsin's build suggested that, and it seems reasonable. Why middle-long range AR's and SMG's?


He is a turian, he is good with any weapon, so why not? Ofc, he is good with shotguns like the wraith (you can try the eviscerator as sub) but he is equally good with ARs & SMGs slaughtering enemies mid-long range. Just give it a try.

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Max's excellent thread contains about 1000 words (roughly 5 minutes worth) and an 8 minute long video. If absorbing that information takes you more time than you spend on your college studies then your prospects don't look too good.

How much reading have you already done in this thread?


Don't you find it wrong, to have to STUDY in order to play the game well? At least that is what your suggestion seems to be - that I should study information about an imaginary, pixel-made weapon in order to use it well. Now, I would never say this is not an excelent article, but when I feel like studying, reading about subjects and saving the information in my memory for future use, I study for my college work. As for, as you suggested, short time reading (studying) this article would take me - if I read one such article, shouldn't I read more? What about all the other less-typical weapons? Mods? Enemies? I believe that would accumulate to a fairly lenghty timespan. As for the amount of reading in this thread - no one has yet presented me with such an amount of information such on one, very specific topic as one weapon, in a game that has dozens of them. The information so far has been given to me (for which I thank everyone) in small, easily "degistable" packages, which served their purpose very well.

If you wish to continue this discussion, I kindly invite you to write me a personal message. We've created enough offtop here as it is.

Modifié par Mike-o, 25 janvier 2014 - 08:08 .


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Weather you like it or not, the game does involve a lot of metaplay. But it doesn't take much time to absorb.

I suggest evi and shotguns in general, because most other pre-UR weapons suck without accuracy/RoF bonuses.

TSent has an insane weapon passives, best (on par with drells) headshot passives and is extremely tanky. That makes him versatile weapon platform. But you will soon have a lot of good rare shootys (pirranha, claymoar, raider, graal actually) and arc-pistol at X. So it's better to concentrate on those.

Rare assault rifles are garbage (except Adas which is niche, but combined with TSol/quarksman makes platinum lolEasy). Though you have a chance to obtain either Harrier/PPR/Typhoon at I soon, those two are great even at one (with appropriate mods and ammo).

Rare pistols... carniflex used to be godly, but was severely nerfed. ArcPistol slowly becomes lolOP. That's it.

Rare SMGs are lol. To much headache for their job.

Rare snipers (Widow, CSR) are extremely powerful, so if you are into sniping things they are the choice. I, personally, hate quickscoping, but once I've tried widow-TSent with warp ammo and it was very ok. I used to use CSR a lot on him.

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Mike-o wrote...

Max's excellent thread contains about 1000 words (roughly 5 minutes worth) and an 8 minute long video. If absorbing that information takes you more time than you spend on your college studies then your prospects don't look too good.

How much reading have you already done in this thread?


Don't you find it wrong, to have to STUDY in order to play the game well? At least that is what your suggestion seems to be - that I should study information about an imaginary, pixel-made weapon in order to use it well. Now, I would never say this is not an excelent article, but when I feel like studying, reading about subjects and saving the information in my memory for future use, I study for my college work. As for, as you suggested, short time reading (studying) this article would take me - if I read one such article, shouldn't I read more? What about all the other less-typical weapons? Mods? Enemies? I believe that would accumulate to a fairly lenghty timespan. As for the amount of reading in this thread - no one has yet presented me with such an amount of information such on one, very specific topic as one weapon, in a game that has dozens of them. The information so far has been given to me (for which I thank everyone) in small, easily "degistable" packages, which served their purpose very well.

If you wish to continue this discussion, I kindly invite you to write me a personal message. We've created enough offtop here as it is.


I like to think I play this game quite well and I sure as hell didn't study to reach that level. Max's thread was suggested to you in reply to your own query about the Turian Sentinel/ Arc Pistol combo, as it's probably the best answer to your question.
Also, private messages can't be sent to non-friends on this site now, so I'll just stay out your way in future.

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Kislitsin wrote...

I suggest evi and shotguns in general, because most other pre-UR weapons suck without accuracy/RoF bonuses.


You are talking about weapons like the kishock, widow, CSR, ADAS, Falcon, Acolyte, Arc pistol. Are you joking? Why don't you write that you love shotguns? That would be a correct answer this is not.

Kislitsin wrote...
TSent has an insane weapon passives, best (on par with drells) headshot passives and is extremely tanky. That makes him versatile weapon platform.


That is why the OP should try out ARs, SMGs, Pistols even SRs on him.

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But you will soon have a lot of good rare shootys (pirranha, claymoar, raider, graal actually) and arc-pistol at X. So it's better to concentrate on those.


So he should be focusing on weapons that the does not have instead of the weapons that he has ... How?

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Rare assault rifles are garbage


This must be another joke. Look the OP mostly playing silver, but even on gold most rare ARs do just fine. Falcon, ADAS can completely trivialize geth/cerberus.

Kislitsin wrote...
Though you have a chance to obtain either Harrier/PPR/Typhoon at I soon,


*shakes head* Why do you feed false hopes? He may not get these weapons for a long, long time.

...

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I only just recently noticed that the ADAS staggers. Very handy in my recent cerb/geth games.

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@RTK2Lional: have you read my post at all?

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So he should be focusing on weapons that the does not have instead of the weapons that he has ... How? 

I advice him to concentrate on eviscerator, because soon he will have a bunch of great shootys, so it's better to learn CQC.


RTK2Lional wrote...

You are talking about weapons like the kishock, widow, CSR, ADAS, Falcon, Acolyte, Arc pistol. Are you joking? Why don't you write that you love shotguns? That would be a correct answer this is not.

Again, go and read my post. I mentioned CSR, Arc Pistol (and widow as well).

Falcon lolcolyte and ADAS are boring staggersticks with a wasted HS bonus. Ok, I have a problem with those weapons (I despise them). They are niche and damage wise can't compete with rare shootys.

Kishock is fun and all, but is a luckluster vs bosses on non-winfiltrators, its non-descrete charging mechanics doesn't help as well.

RTK2Lional wrote...

This must be another joke. Look the OP mostly playing silver, but even on gold most rare ARs do just fine. Falcon, ADAS can completely trivialize geth/cerberus.

So what, that just points out that they are NICHE. He wouldn't fortify his Turian skills playing those weapons vs those 2 factions (no HS, no aiming, no bang).

Moreover, TSent doesn't need a staggerstick. He is a true king of UUG/P for reasons.

Or you are trying to say that GPR, CAR et all are decent ARs?
The only decent pre-UR AR is a Mattock, but it can cause carpal tunnel syndrom.

RTK2Lional

Kislitsin wrote...
Though you have a chance to obtain either Harrier/PPR/Typhoon at I soon,


*shakes head* Why do you feed false hopes? He may not get these weapons for a long, long time.
...

That's why I wrote "chance".
PPR was my second UR unlock (first was BW), was my first UR past I, I was dissapointed at first but then I was shown the light.
It was my last UR to X and stayed at II for a looong time. But my TSent was almost inseparable with the gun, the trio of us slowly progressed level by level learning new things (and we have a lot to learn and train still)

Maybe he is a Lazorborn as well?

Modifié par Kislitsin, 26 janvier 2014 - 04:35 .


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I've checked out forum's list of abbreviations, but couldn't found few of them. If you please, what are: CSR, CAR, UUG, P and PPR?

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Collector Sniper rifle, Collector Assault Rifle (I think, drawing a blank), Unknown Unknown Gold/Platinum, Prothean Particle Rifle.

I think I got them all.

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Thanks, milahnna. Now! It's been surprisingly long since my last inquisitive question, but now I've got a few.

First, Krogan Soldier? What build do you suggest, I've played only one match with that guy, so far, and I've been using the Fortification+Incendiary Grenades build, making my krogan a more tanky, short-range version of my Human Soldier. I suppose that's a legit enough build, but maybe you guys have other suggestions.

Second, skill-using classes and Reegar Carbine. That weapon, as awesome as it is, is quite heavy, at least at level I. I've tried it out on my two Krogans, Warlord and Vanguard, and although weapon itself served me beautifully, it made using skills somewhat problematic. Especially Vanguard could charge significantly less often, but I've noticed the difference even on a Warlord, having occasional problem with using my Biotic Hammer skill. Do you think I should look past longer cooldowns and continue using this awesome gun, or should I rather return to good, ol' Eviscerator and wait until I level Reegar a bit, making it weight less? Personally, I'd choose the latter, but maybe you have proof the former's a better idea.

Third, Infiltrator and Arc Pistol. I played one match with that combination, Silver one, and I kicked ass, scoring the first place on the list, far outmatching the second player. Gun is great, headshots (it makes me try to learn headshotting better, which is very good influence) scored from Tactical Cloak are devastating. Still, Tactical Cloak sometimes confused me - sometimes I'd find myself decloaking before the shot charges, and sometimes not. What's the best way to use Arc Pistol when combined with cloak? Or, more precisely, when should I cloak and when should I begin to charge?

P.S. For my manifest, check out Selmair.

Modifié par Mike-o, 27 janvier 2014 - 12:00 .


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Start to charge the Arc Pistol before you cloak, otherwise you will decloak. Also, if you are not host and are getting lag related problems, sometimes cloak just turns itself on and off. It's super awkward.

I still don't use the Reegar much but I didn't really get any use out of it until it was up to level five or so, if I recall correctly. Personally I'd call it a playstyle choice. In your shoes I'd likely stick with the Eviscerator for now but this was my first MP shooter type of game so I had a pretty steep learning curve.

I suck with every type of build I've tried on the KroSol (no dodge kind of kills me) but I do believe he makes a great melee character if you get the hang of turning Fort off and back on (off to get the melee damage bonus for 20 seconds and then back on to get the damage reduction back). Probably a harder build to master but once you're more comfortable, something to maybe play around with.

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^please stop using reeger before you develop irreversible brain injury to yourself.

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Mike-o wrote...

Max's excellent thread contains about 1000 words (roughly 5 minutes worth) and an 8 minute long video. If absorbing that information takes you more time than you spend on your college studies then your prospects don't look too good.

How much reading have you already done in this thread?


Don't you find it wrong, to have to STUDY in order to play the game well? At least that is what your suggestion seems to be - that I should study information about an imaginary, pixel-made weapon in order to use it well. Now, I would never say this is not an excelent article, but when I feel like studying, reading about subjects and saving the information in my memory for future use, I study for my college work. As for, as you suggested, short time reading (studying) this article would take me - if I read one such article, shouldn't I read more? What about all the other less-typical weapons? Mods? Enemies? I believe that would accumulate to a fairly lenghty timespan. As for the amount of reading in this thread - no one has yet presented me with such an amount of information such on one, very specific topic as one weapon, in a game that has dozens of them. The information so far has been given to me (for which I thank everyone) in small, easily "degistable" packages, which served their purpose very well.

If you wish to continue this discussion, I kindly invite you to write me a personal message. We've created enough offtop here as it is.

you think you have natural talent or something? 1v1 me in the thunderdome babby

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Kislitsin wrote...

^please stop using reeger before you develop irreversible brain injury to yourself.


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LOL. I don't think using the reegar has fried my brain but I rarely use it at all. I find its drawbacks to be greater than its OPness and only really like it on one or two kits.

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Small question about Striker Assault Rifle. The gun's grenades already have an AP effect, or so wiki says. Question is, does adding your own ammo mods influence Striker's ammo-grenades? P.S. I've played one Gold match with Striker lvl I on my Humie Soldier, and sucked so badly... then I realized the gun is automatic, not semi-automatic. Will see how I fare with it now.

Modifié par Mike-o, 27 janvier 2014 - 01:36 .


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Can someone share alternate Drell adept build with something in pull? I got bored very quickly of pull-less grenade spamming him. And how to make him effective?

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Mike-o wrote...

First, Krogan Soldier? What build do you suggest, I've played only one match with that guy, so far, and I've been using the Fortification+Incendiary Grenades build, making my krogan a more tanky, short-range version of my Human Soldier. I suppose that's a legit enough build, but maybe you guys have other suggestions.


Do not skip carnage. Prime tagrets with inferno grenades and detonate with carnage, you get very powerful fire explosions. Try this build:

http://kalence.drupa...3325..13!7F0B5' class='bbc_url' title='Lien externe' rel='nofollow external'> http://kalence.drupalgardens.com/me3-builder#23!3206135!!3325..13!7F0B5

Once you get better shotguns (wraith, raider, piranha) or your claymore levels up a bit you can switch to those.

Also the damage of combo explosions depends on the rank of the powers you use, so a rank 6 primer combined with a rank 6 detonator gives you the most powerful explosions. That is why it is a good idea to max out both carnage and inferno grenades if you want to spam fire eplosions.