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[superdeathdealer14]

KainD wrote...

El_Chala_Legalizado wrote...

The idea behind the armor of your companions, is that you can change them without changing their "style", in other words:
Her armours don't aim to be a female counterpart of that man's armour, but rather to be a "personal version" that aims to keep her silhouette and main details of her looks (Like the trench coat).

Why a trench coat? When did she wear one? 

In my opinion and i'm gonna emphasise on the "my opinion" part, i think the trench coat looks badass

[Exaltation]

Males deserve sexy revealing armor too!,for now we will have to do with only Qunari males lol.

[Chala]

KainD wrote...

El_Chala_Legalizado wrote...

The idea behind the armor of your companions, is that you can change them without changing their "style", in other words:
Her armours don't aim to be a female counterpart of that man's armour, but rather to be a "personal version" that aims to keep her silhouette and main details of her looks (Like the trench coat).

Why a trench coat? When did she wear one? 

So far, In concept arts, like the ones showed on this thread.
In game version of her doesn't have it, seems they decided to change it for a Inquisition symbol:

KainD wrote...

In my opinion and i'm gonna emphasise on the "my opinion" part, i think the trench coat looks badass

Same here, trench coats can make some good looking armors:

Modifié par El_Chala_Legalizado, 13 janvier 2014 - 01:35 .

[ElitePinecone]

KainD wrote...

If it's supposed to be the same armor then I don't really like the difference. The armor on the right shows the curves, while the armor on the left doesn't. 

(These art pieces were from a blog post that was almost two years ago and before Inquisition was officially announced, so things might've changed a lot since then.)

In Inquisition, armour pieces change with every companion that wears them - so it's not a male/female difference, it's a Cassandra vs Grey Warden difference.

The idea is to preserve the unique silhouette and visual style of each character, so it looks like Cassandra's armour will always have that slightly spiky element to the arms.

Here's another shot comparing what armour *could* look like on both characters:



As far as we know, if you put that same armour piece on all nine different companions you'd get nine different appearances - because in this game it's much more tailored to that individual character.

[KainD]

Got it.

[StElmo]

There was a pretty comprehensive thread and consequently a unilateral agreement from fans a while ago, where very few people wanted boob-plate/revealing armor. Thus the majority would much prefer pratical designs - which I believe we will be getting DA2 was pretty good, so I don't see why BioWare would take a step backwards in this regard.

[ElitePinecone]

I just realised I may as well link to the actual blog post! It was from April 2012:

http://blog.bioware....acustomization/

Looking at the screenshot (is that in-game? from a trailer?) above with Cass and Varric, her appearance actually looks pretty close to some of the ones in that image - so maybe they are sticking with the 'iconic" companion outlines and armour/outfits that modify themselves depending on who wears it.

At the time I think Mike said it was a much more expensive option, but it was the best solution they could find to preserve iconic appearances while also giving players freedom to customise the party.

[SirGladiator]

The idea that it's 'sexist' to enjoy attractive female armors is absurd. For those that want to cover their female characters from head to toe in armor, that's fine, but it's also 100% fine to prefer they wear attractive outfits instead, and anybody that tells you different is just plain wrong. Morrigan's outfit was a great example, for those who didn't like it, it was easy enough to change her into something else, but for the vast majority of us who did like it, we'd like more such outfits, not less. Anyone who is 'offended' by attractive outfits can simply not use them, but as I don't live in the middle east, I prefer the female characters in my games to not be covered from head to toe. More attractive outfits, not less, is what I'd like to see in DAI.

[superdeathdealer14]

SirGladiator wrote...

The idea that it's 'sexist' to enjoy attractive female armors is absurd. For those that want to cover their female characters from head to toe in armor, that's fine, but it's also 100% fine to prefer they wear attractive outfits instead, and anybody that tells you different is just plain wrong. Morrigan's outfit was a great example, for those who didn't like it, it was easy enough to change her into something else, but for the vast majority of us who did like it, we'd like more such outfits, not less. Anyone who is 'offended' by attractive outfits can simply not use them, but as I don't live in the middle east, I prefer the female characters in my games to not be covered from head to toe. More attractive outfits, not less, is what I'd like to see in DAI.

Why not have practical and attactive armour.

Disclaimer: attactive and practical armour are sometimes extremely hard to find and EA will charge you $10.35 for the 'Attractive Armour' DLC.

[Magdalena11]

Regarding the 2 views of Cassandra, I think I read that her signature silhouette isn't the trench coat but the length and shape of her outfit. I saw a blog along those lines with geometric shapes and examples. Unless I remember wrong (very possible) Cassandra was used to illustrate a triangle with a wide base. The flaps in front and back keep the silhouette by visually filling in the space between her knees.

I want to be a demanding fan and ask for attractive armor that looks functional as well as worn by a woman. I thought Aveline's and Cassandra's armor was fantastic. I hope there's as much difference between male and female PC armor as there is between grey warden dude's and Cassandra's.

It's really selfish and pointless to ask the design team to share my preferences in aesthetics. I'm sure I'll find something to wear.

[ManOfSteel]

SirGladiator wrote...

The idea that it's 'sexist' to enjoy attractive female armors is absurd. For those that want to cover their female characters from head to toe in armor, that's fine, but it's also 100% fine to prefer they wear attractive outfits instead, and anybody that tells you different is just plain wrong. Morrigan's outfit was a great example, for those who didn't like it, it was easy enough to change her into something else, but for the vast majority of us who did like it, we'd like more such outfits, not less. Anyone who is 'offended' by attractive outfits can simply not use them, but as I don't live in the middle east, I prefer the female characters in my games to not be covered from head to toe. More attractive outfits, not less, is what I'd like to see in DAI.

Morrigan isn't a warrior or soldier. She's a mage who has spent her life living in the wilds. Her "attractive" garmonts fit her character, just as Isabela's skimpy outfit fits hers. I personally have no problems with this, and few people complained, because they're not supposed to be wearing armour.

I do take issue with female armour that only covers a woman's breasts and thighs. If Aveline was to don a metal swimsuit instead of a full set of plate, there would be something of an outrage. She's a very practical character, so her full suit of armour fits that perfectly.

Modifié par DoomHK, 13 janvier 2014 - 02:47 .

[Silfren]

SirGladiator wrote...

The idea that it's 'sexist' to enjoy attractive female armors is absurd. For those that want to cover their female characters from head to toe in armor, that's fine, but it's also 100% fine to prefer they wear attractive outfits instead, and anybody that tells you different is just plain wrong. Morrigan's outfit was a great example, for those who didn't like it, it was easy enough to change her into something else, but for the vast majority of us who did like it, we'd like more such outfits, not less. Anyone who is 'offended' by attractive outfits can simply not use them, but as I don't live in the middle east, I prefer the female characters in my games to not be covered from head to toe. More attractive outfits, not less, is what I'd like to see in DAI.

This is disingenuous.  People NEVER complain or find it sexist when female armors are "attractive," and trying to frame it this way is being deliberately obtuse.  The issue is that armor worn by female characters is so often about titillation of the male gaze, when what passes for armor is so obviously sexual that calling it armor at all is ludicrous in the extreme.

[Magdalena11]

Silfren wrote...

SirGladiator wrote...

The idea that it's 'sexist' to enjoy attractive female armors is absurd. For those that want to cover their female characters from head to toe in armor, that's fine, but it's also 100% fine to prefer they wear attractive outfits instead, and anybody that tells you different is just plain wrong. Morrigan's outfit was a great example, for those who didn't like it, it was easy enough to change her into something else, but for the vast majority of us who did like it, we'd like more such outfits, not less. Anyone who is 'offended' by attractive outfits can simply not use them, but as I don't live in the middle east, I prefer the female characters in my games to not be covered from head to toe. More attractive outfits, not less, is what I'd like to see in DAI.

This is disingenuous.  People NEVER complain or find it sexist when female armors are "attractive," and trying to frame it this way is being deliberately obtuse.  The issue is that armor worn by female characters is so often about titillation of the male gaze, when what passes for armor is so obviously sexual that calling it armor at all is ludicrous in the extreme.

I read this and feel the need to clarify.  I'd like to see armors that are attractive because they acknowledge the female-ness of the person inside them.  I am not talking about Dalish vests or Dusk Robes (OP mod robes.)  There's just no point in wearing armor if the squishy bits in the middle aren't covered up.  Morrigan's outfit was a good example because even the upgrade had an AC of about 2 as opposed to Alistair's starting AC of 9.  By the time Morri got her new robes Ali was in blood dragon armor with an AC in the 30s.  Whether Morri's robes would have helped against the cold, damp Korkari wilds is a different matter.

The Dalish vest can be used as an example - I always dress my female rogues in the Wads's set, felon's coat or battledress of the provacateur when they become available.  They've still got the soup bowls on the chest and low neckline but at least the guts are covered.  I also use the dye kit on them to change the color scheme because I want the armor to look attractive to me.  I use mods pretty shamelessly so I like the dusk item pack but for both males and females I prefer the aesthetics of the vestments.  I can't believe a male or female mage would want to wear robes that left their entire chest exposed to the first strong gust of wind.

Enough ranting for me.  You may now return to your regularly scheduled program.

[LobselVith8]

SergeantSnookie wrote...

Let's not forget the notorious Dalish armoured bikini.

I grew rather familiar with my Warden's midriff for the first bit of the game.

http://cloud-3.steam...B3D5D7E4C52C60/

I'm sure they rectonned this out of existence, along with Dalish boots.

[Hellion Rex]

LobselVith8 wrote...

I'm sure they rectonned this out of existence, along with Dalish boots.

Wait, what was wrong with the boots?

[Veruin]

eluvianix wrote...

Wait, what was wrong with the boots?

I think he was referring to the Dalish/elves no longer wearing shoes.

[Darth Death]

Upon viewing the links provided in the op, it's safe to say you can't please everyone. People will complain either or.

[LobselVith8]

Veruin wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

Wait, what was wrong with the boots? 

I think he was referring to the Dalish/elves no longer wearing shoes. 

Pretty much.

[superdeathdealer14]

Magdalena11 wrote...

Silfren wrote...

SirGladiator wrote...

The idea that it's 'sexist' to enjoy attractive female armors is absurd. For those that want to cover their female characters from head to toe in armor, that's fine, but it's also 100% fine to prefer they wear attractive outfits instead, and anybody that tells you different is just plain wrong. Morrigan's outfit was a great example, for those who didn't like it, it was easy enough to change her into something else, but for the vast majority of us who did like it, we'd like more such outfits, not less. Anyone who is 'offended' by attractive outfits can simply not use them, but as I don't live in the middle east, I prefer the female characters in my games to not be covered from head to toe. More attractive outfits, not less, is what I'd like to see in DAI.

This is disingenuous.  People NEVER complain or find it sexist when female armors are "attractive," and trying to frame it this way is being deliberately obtuse.  The issue is that armor worn by female characters is so often about titillation of the male gaze, when what passes for armor is so obviously sexual that calling it armor at all is ludicrous in the extreme.

I read this and feel the need to clarify.  I'd like to see armors that are attractive because they acknowledge the female-ness of the person inside them.  I am not talking about Dalish vests or Dusk Robes (OP mod robes.)  There's just no point in wearing armor if the squishy bits in the middle aren't covered up.  Morrigan's outfit was a good example because even the upgrade had an AC of about 2 as opposed to Alistair's starting AC of 9.  By the time Morri got her new robes Ali was in blood dragon armor with an AC in the 30s.  Whether Morri's robes would have helped against the cold, damp Korkari wilds is a different matter.

The Dalish vest can be used as an example - I always dress my female rogues in the Wads's set, felon's coat or battledress of the provacateur when they become available.  They've still got the soup bowls on the chest and low neckline but at least the guts are covered.  I also use the dye kit on them to change the color scheme because I want the armor to look attractive to me.  I use mods pretty shamelessly so I like the dusk item pack but for both males and females I prefer the aesthetics of the vestments.  I can't believe a male or female mage would want to wear robes that left their entire chest exposed to the first strong gust of wind.

Enough ranting for me.  You may now return to your regularly scheduled program.

:huh:Wait people actually gave Morrigan new robes? Personally I thought her robes were fine.

[9TailsFox]

superdeathdealer14 wrote...

SirGladiator wrote...

The idea that it's 'sexist' to enjoy attractive female armors is absurd. For those that want to cover their female characters from head to toe in armor, that's fine, but it's also 100% fine to prefer they wear attractive outfits instead, and anybody that tells you different is just plain wrong. Morrigan's outfit was a great example, for those who didn't like it, it was easy enough to change her into something else, but for the vast majority of us who did like it, we'd like more such outfits, not less. Anyone who is 'offended' by attractive outfits can simply not use them, but as I don't live in the middle east, I prefer the female characters in my games to not be covered from head to toe. More attractive outfits, not less, is what I'd like to see in DAI.

Why not have practical and attactive armour.

Disclaimer: attactive and practical armour are sometimes extremely hard to find and EA will charge you $10.35 for the 'Attractive Armour' DLC.

Because it is fantasy game not reality. And practical armor are boring.

[Magdalena11]

superdeathdealer14 wrote...

[:huh:Wait people actually gave Morrigan new robes? Personally I thought her robes were fine.

 LOL!  The appearance of the robes after Flemeth is killed are the same.  Fear not the risk of missed side-boob.

[Veruin]

9TailsFox wrote...

Because it is fantasy game not reality. And practical armor are boring.

Says you.

Modifié par Veruin, 13 janvier 2014 - 07:04 .

[Hellion Rex]

Magdalena11 wrote...

superdeathdealer14 wrote...

[:huh:Wait people actually gave Morrigan new robes? Personally I thought her robes were fine.

 LOL!  The appearance of the robes after Flemeth is killed are the same.  Fear not the risk of missed side-boob.

I could care less about sideboob (gay). I thought her robes reflected who she was as a character.

[The Elder King]

LobselVith8 wrote...

Veruin wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

Wait, what was wrong with the boots? 

I think he was referring to the Dalish/elves no longer wearing shoes. 

Pretty much.

There were actually elves with shoes/boots in DA2. The two dalish that blocked Hawke the first time had it, as well as others in the camp. Though I doubt it was intentional. 
I just hope that my elf character will be able to wear boots. Otherwise I'll play another race in my first playthrough.

Modifié par hhh89, 13 janvier 2014 - 07:12 .

[Fetunche]

Aslong as both male and female characters can have practical and/or sexy armour the player can choose what suits them.