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Will we have a great NPC for romance? like Alistair


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The only great NPC romance that BioWare should include is Broodmother.

It is known.

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Inb4 Brood daddy thread.

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CrustyBot wrote...

The only great NPC romance that BioWare should include is Broodmother.

It is known.



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Really though, why would anyone want to romance a dude who will leave you on the eve of the most important battle you will ever faced if he does not get what he wants?

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Mr.House wrote...

Really though, why would anyone want to romance a dude who will leave you on the eve of the most important battle you will ever faced if he does not get what he wants?


I agree. NPC with a free will, who doesn't approve every single decision of a protagonist! Blasphemy.

Then some  people lambast Garrus because he always supports Shepard.

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Star fury wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Really though, why would anyone want to romance a dude who will leave you on the eve of the most important battle you will ever faced if he does not get what he wants?


I agree. NPC with a free will, who doesn't approve every single decision of a protagonist! Blasphemy.

Then some  people lambast Garrus because he always supports Shepard.

A character, who is part of a group that can only kill the Archdemon that is also very very very low on numbers that leaves because of a personal issue is simply a idiot.

Cute how you think I hate Alistair because he does not kiss my boots despite liking characters like Sten and Loghain.

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Mr.House wrote...

Really though, why would anyone want to romance a dude who will leave you on the eve of the most important battle you will ever faced if he does not get what he wants?



Yeah cause he is the only one that does that isn't he?....Morrigan does the same thing but people seem to think its ok with her, she can disapprove of all you do, but she is not whiny or selfish, not like Alistair. Personally I think its a lot of e-pen*s envy.

I personally love the Alistair romance, I think it gives a whole lot more than the other romances. 
The two last grey wardens falling in love, overcoming or not overcoming the tragedy of that outcome. Then you have the added burden of him possibly becoming king and the problems that brings. And no he is not a douche for trying to end the romance when he is made king if you are anything but noble, he is doing what he thinks is right and what is required of him from his duty. He is easily convinced otherwise...
And really, what girl doesnt want a reluctant secret prince?
The other romances just seem flat to me and don't really add anything to the story, except Morrigan's of course. Zevran and Leliana's just seem like fluff n stuff to me.

So for me, any romance that adds that little bit of a deeper dimension to the story is what I would be looking for.

Modifié par wiccame, 15 janvier 2014 - 09:42 .


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Mr.House wrote...

Star fury wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Really though, why would anyone want to romance a dude who will leave you on the eve of the most important battle you will ever faced if he does not get what he wants?


I agree. NPC with a free will, who doesn't approve every single decision of a protagonist! Blasphemy.

Then some  people lambast Garrus because he always supports Shepard.

A character, who is part of a group that can only kill the Archdemon that is also very very very low on numbers that leaves because of a personal issue is simply a idiot.

Cute how you think I hate Alistair because he does not kiss my boots despite liking characters like Sten and Loghain.


The character with principles, who draw the line and refused to sacrifice his beliefs. No wonder many love him. Your love of Loghain explains everything btw.

Battle for Denerim was not the end of the world too. the end of Ferelden maybe. Grey Wardens from other kingdoms were able to kill the archdemon. 

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Alistair is my favorite romance as well. I don't seem to have the same issues with him others do, since I always kill Loghain, whether he will be king (he is only king in my female mage playthroughs and my Queen Cousland games) or not.

That said, though I love the character, I would like to see different romances in DAI. But if OP is trying to say she would like a romance as 'epic and fun' as her favorite one, I agree wholeheartedly.

Epic and fun and not with a freaking psycho. A little angst is interesting, stirs up a bit of drama. Batsh*t eating nuts isn't fun for me, though I expect at least one romance to be with said fanatic as it seems to be needed for those who prefer that kind of *cough* torture *cough* romance.

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wiccame wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Really though, why would anyone want to romance a dude who will leave you on the eve of the most important battle you will ever faced if he does not get what he wants?



Yeah cause he is the only one that does that isn't he?....Morrigan does the same thing but people seem to think its ok with her, she can disapprove of all you do, but she is not whiny or selfish, not like Alistair. Personally I think its a lot of e-pen*s envy.


Except that Morigan was never a Grey Warden who swore an oath. Heck Morrigan even gives you a way out. She gives you the option to survive.

Alistair on the otherhand acts like a whiny brat that doesn't get his way -- and that is suppose to become king?

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The Alistair fangirls and fanboys have arrived, non fanboys and fangirls abandon thread before they argue with us about our differing opinions of him.

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Milan92 wrote...

wiccame wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Really though, why would anyone want to romance a dude who will leave you on the eve of the most important battle you will ever faced if he does not get what he wants?



Yeah cause he is the only one that does that isn't he?....Morrigan does the same thing but people seem to think its ok with her, she can disapprove of all you do, but she is not whiny or selfish, not like Alistair. Personally I think its a lot of e-pen*s envy.


Except that Morigan was never a Grey Warden who swore an oath. Heck Morrigan even gives you a way out. She gives you the option to survive.

Alistair on the otherhand acts like a whiny brat that doesn't get his way -- and that is suppose to become king?

No she wasn't but she still throws a hissy fit and leaves if she dont get what she wants,  'offering you a way out' is just her manipulation tactic to get you to do what she wants and when you don't play along she acts like a spoilt brat.

Loghain was a deserter, which resulted in getting the king and Fereldans best chance at ending the blight, killed. Then he takes the throne and throws the country into chaos. Tries to have you and Alistair killed and you think Alistair has no right to oppose him being recruited and avoid execution? 

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wiccame wrote...

Milan92 wrote...

wiccame wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Really though, why would anyone want to romance a dude who will leave you on the eve of the most important battle you will ever faced if he does not get what he wants?



Yeah cause he is the only one that does that isn't he?....Morrigan does the same thing but people seem to think its ok with her, she can disapprove of all you do, but she is not whiny or selfish, not like Alistair. Personally I think its a lot of e-pen*s envy.


Except that Morigan was never a Grey Warden who swore an oath. Heck Morrigan even gives you a way out. She gives you the option to survive.

Alistair on the otherhand acts like a whiny brat that doesn't get his way -- and that is suppose to become king?

No she wasn't but she still throws a hissy fit and leaves if she dont get what she wants,  'offering you a way out' is just her manipulation tactic to get you to do what she wants and when you don't play along she acts like a spoilt brat.

Loghain was a deserter, which resulted in getting the king and Fereldans best chance at ending the blight, killed. Then he takes the throne and throws the country into chaos. Tries to have you and Alistair killed and you think Alistair has no right to oppose him being recruited and avoid execution? 




It still doesn't compare with Alistair because she was no future queen or a grey warden. Hence why most people don't really care that she left.

Loghain did the right thing when he abandoned Cailan. Had he not done that then the entire ferelden army would have been slaughtered. They wouldn't have ended the blight. You need to kill the Archdemon for that and there was no sign of the Archdemon so far.

Calain was a fool for wanting the glory in the frontline. Its what got him killed. Yes I admit that Loghain made some mistakes with ignoring the darkspawn threat after he usurped the throne, but he was no deserter.

If anyone is a deserter then it is Alistair.

This doesn't mean I dislike Alistair, but I do think he was an idiot at the end.

Modifié par Milan92, 15 janvier 2014 - 10:42 .


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I don't care how the male LI's act as long as they look as good as Anders.

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Milan92 wrote...

It still doesn't compare with Alistair because she was no future queen or a grey warden. Hence why most people don't really care that she left.

NBA cares. Just when he needed her shapeshifting slam jamming powers to dunk on the archdemon, she let down Arl Barkley in overtime.

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I don't care how the male LI's act as long as they look as good as Anders.


See, this is there my "Fanboyism" comment comes into play.

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I want new npcs not a wannabe npc

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Well, beauty being in the eye of the beholder, I have to say I didn't like Anders look for DA2. With his off color whiskers, greasy hair and pointed narrow chin, he reminded me of a weasel and was completely unappealing in appearance as well as personality.

If others found him good to look at more power to them. But I didn't.

See, you can't please everyone all the time. Too many variables.

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 I never romance anyone in DA games, BUT what about that Grey Warden that I heard was supposed to be in DA:I? I wouldn't mind having my character romancing him. As for Alistair, I didn't romance him so I can't really comment on that. 

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I think that the quality of an NPC and how "great" they are is highly subjective. Don't get me wrong, I really liked Alistair but I also know that some people found him annoying and preferred Zevran, Leliana, etc.

In my own experience, as much as I liked Alistair, Fenris has to be my favourite when it comes to LI characters in Dragon Age. I don't think I need to explain how Fenris (and Anders but Fenris is my example) is a rather polarizing character in terms of fan favourites.

If I do agree one one thing, however, is that I would love some interesting NPCs as love interests.

Modifié par Aesir26, 15 janvier 2014 - 03:00 .


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I'm sure Alistair was a great romance. Too bad he was not romanceable in my game.

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I am female and my characters are all female... and since this is a Fantasy game.. it would be nice to have the romance like we had in DA:O ... a character we can really care about ..


It sounds like you are asking for a dating sim that caters to cishet women. There are loads of them out there, FYI.

"A character we can really care about" is obviously subjective. Personally, I've cared about all of them. I've romanced five difference characters in the DA franchise and I've loved them all. Fenris was and is my favorite... but I'm not going to make a thread begging the writers to write a Fenris romance clone.

Which character(s) a player falls in love with is 100% subjective. Someone in this thread claims to love Anders; another finds him greasy and unattractive. I have a friend who couldn't decide between Fenris and Anders because she thought both were great with her Hawke. Some people hate Fenris and/or Anders on sight. Blah, blah, blah.

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You can't cheat on your li's with yourself and i'm not sure if we can romance the none li ones at all, since they said Morrigan wouldn't be and I think they said something else about the other ones.

The prognosis for Varic being a li isn't very good since he seems to still be in love with Bianca and in the fade sequence from until we sleep it showed that he's still affected by her and explains why he won't give up Bianca the bow, it was designed by her and if if you give something a name it's yours forever and well he said like you then started crying when he left the dream.

As people mentioned we might get a grey warden character as a companion, along with a male elven mage, a female elven rogue, the iron bull, Cullen and some female character.


As for npc relationships, they haven't really said to much besides there will be npc's that we can seduce but not much beyond that just yet( at least nothing that i've seen or heard though if anyone has something to add feel free to do so.)

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Spectre slayer wrote...

You can't cheat on your li's with yourself and i'm not sure if we can romance the none li ones at all, since they said Morrigan wouldn't be and I think they said something else about the other ones.


If you roleplay a character and not a self insert, then yes.  It would technically be cheating.

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heh heh.. OK I admit not everyone "loved" Alistair.. but at the same time not many NPC's got as much "comments", bod or good, from players... I did like Zevran and Fenris was my choice in DA2 I also really enjoyed Liliana..- In my opinion the NPC's in DA:O had more "personality". And regardless of preferences, players had choices for romance that were meaningful for them.. And don't mind me, I just believe that it's important to have some romance, even when you're trying to save the world.  and yes, sylvanaerie - "Epic and Fun" romancesImage IPB for all!

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Veruin wrote...

Spectre slayer wrote...

You can't cheat on your li's with yourself and i'm not sure if we can romance the none li ones at all, since they said Morrigan wouldn't be and I think they said something else about the other ones.


If you roleplay a character and not a self insert, then yes.  It would technically be cheating.


I know but that's not what I meant, I was referring to the many things they've said on this including this thread which is your LI cheating on you with you in which Gaider replied to that.

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